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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12640 on: October 29, 2020, 03:19:59 pm »
I mean, unique colloquialisms and idioms have developed to describe similar things, from country to country and from region to region, even if they share the same language, and it's not really a crazy concept that these things end up transferring or being adopted simply because they just make sense to everyone, while certain other ones just don't. Immigration, close borders, mass media, entertainment. It happens.

Take "dish soap" for example. Both British and American English use the word "soap," but you won't really hear a British person call their washing up liquid "dish soap" unless they've lived in the US and, I assume, Canada for a time (do Canadians call it dish soap, too, or do you call it something else?) because, to them, it doesn't make much sense. Because soap is supposed to be a solid and not a liquid, haha. And Americans aren't really ever going to call a cookie a biscuit because biscuits aren't supposed to be sweet or flat.

I personally find it really interesting to compare notes.

Does NZ have a similar term that's more common to use?

I don't remember a different one instead of "hog wild" - but we call dish soap 'detergent' in NZ, dish soap was uncommon. :o
I've never heard dish soap be called regular soap haha.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12641 on: October 29, 2020, 04:44:03 pm »
There is always one kid who ruins it for everyone.  Last year I spend quit a bit of time putting together a choose your own adventure for halloween. I used it in 3rd and 4th grade and was very careful to make it spooky but not really scary. All the ghosts and monsters were cartoonish, there was no blood and no jump scares. All the students seemed to enjoy it...except for one. There was one boy in 4th grade who spent the whole class with his head on his desk, his eyes clenched shut and his hands over his ears.  I thought it was weird but I guess some kids just have a lower tolerance for that sort of thing. Fair enough.  He has since taken it to another level. I tried to play a dungeon runner game  i found on here with his class. There aren't even any monsters in that game. The students just have to remember a series of directions. If they choose the wrong route, they come to a dead end. That's it. As soon as I put it on he starts yelling "No, no, no!" and tries to take my usb out of the computer. I explain to him there are no monsters. My coteacher also explains. He starts crying and I have to abandon the game.  Now he is in grade five. Today I played a hangman alternative I whipped up. It's just a guy chewing bubble gum. If the students guess wrong he blows a bubble that gets bigger until it eventually pops. He immediately starts freaking out yelling and crying.
I have had several conversations with my CoT about him. He does not have any behavioral problems and is actually one of the best students in the class.  I guess his class will not play anymore games.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12642 on: October 29, 2020, 04:54:31 pm »
There is always one kid who ruins it for everyone....

Sounds like he's been coddled by his parents to the point that it's perverse.

And here's me playing this to a 3rd grade class after my halloween lesson. Yes, they got scared, but they really kick a kick out of it. Typically, I save the horror shorts as rewards, at the end of the lesson, for my 5th and 6th graders (they absolutely love it) and my CTs have no problem with me showing it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FS-s56NY14k&ab_channel=MidnightVideo


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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12643 on: October 29, 2020, 05:11:42 pm »
There is always one kid who ruins it for everyone.  Last year I spend quit a bit of time putting together a choose your own adventure for halloween. I used it in 3rd and 4th grade and was very careful to make it spooky but not really scary. All the ghosts and monsters were cartoonish, there was no blood and no jump scares. All the students seemed to enjoy it...except for one. There was one boy in 4th grade who spent the whole class with his head on his desk, his eyes clenched shut and his hands over his ears.  I thought it was weird but I guess some kids just have a lower tolerance for that sort of thing. Fair enough.  He has since taken it to another level. I tried to play a dungeon runner game  i found on here with his class. There aren't even any monsters in that game. The students just have to remember a series of directions. If they choose the wrong route, they come to a dead end. That's it. As soon as I put it on he starts yelling "No, no, no!" and tries to take my usb out of the computer. I explain to him there are no monsters. My coteacher also explains. He starts crying and I have to abandon the game.  Now he is in grade five. Today I played a hangman alternative I whipped up. It's just a guy chewing bubble gum. If the students guess wrong he blows a bubble that gets bigger until it eventually pops. He immediately starts freaking out yelling and crying.
I have had several conversations with my CoT about him. He does not have any behavioral problems and is actually one of the best students in the class.  I guess his class will not play anymore games.
i have no time for this. yeah, just stop playing games for that class. sucks for that class, but just not worth the headache.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12644 on: October 29, 2020, 05:27:59 pm »
There is always one kid who ruins it for everyone.  Last year I spend quit a bit of time putting together a choose your own adventure for halloween. I used it in 3rd and 4th grade and was very careful to make it spooky but not really scary. All the ghosts and monsters were cartoonish, there was no blood and no jump scares. All the students seemed to enjoy it...except for one. There was one boy in 4th grade who spent the whole class with his head on his desk, his eyes clenched shut and his hands over his ears.  I thought it was weird but I guess some kids just have a lower tolerance for that sort of thing. Fair enough.  He has since taken it to another level. I tried to play a dungeon runner game  i found on here with his class. There aren't even any monsters in that game. The students just have to remember a series of directions. If they choose the wrong route, they come to a dead end. That's it. As soon as I put it on he starts yelling "No, no, no!" and tries to take my usb out of the computer. I explain to him there are no monsters. My coteacher also explains. He starts crying and I have to abandon the game.  Now he is in grade five. Today I played a hangman alternative I whipped up. It's just a guy chewing bubble gum. If the students guess wrong he blows a bubble that gets bigger until it eventually pops. He immediately starts freaking out yelling and crying.
I have had several conversations with my CoT about him. He does not have any behavioral problems and is actually one of the best students in the class.  I guess his class will not play anymore games.

That kid doesn’t have any diagnosed behavioral problems but sounds like he has some issues. Could be more below the surface/at home issues.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12645 on: October 29, 2020, 06:01:32 pm »
Yeah, I agree, it could be as simple as him being super pampered and sheltered, but it could also be a phobia of loud noises or anything he fears might have loud noise. And it could just as easily be hidden trauma or something else undiagnosed.

For example, I knew a guy who was a very good student in school, maintained very high grades, was an all around nice guy, seemed very stable... but the minute he heard someone sing "Happy Birthday," it triggered physical tremors, sweating, chain-smoking, and quiet cursing. Then it would take him around 10-20 minutes to become functional and "normal" again. He never talked about why this triggered him and would never ever talk about his past at all, but he did tell me once that he has no family and that he has nothing to do with his parents at all, so it's not hard to assume there's a lot of childhood trauma there.

I don't remember a different one instead of "hog wild" - but we call dish soap 'detergent' in NZ, dish soap was uncommon. :o
I've never heard dish soap be called regular soap haha.

"Detergent" is what we use for laundry, lol... and for the powdered soap used for the dishwashing machine, but I'm not sure if the latter is universal across the States or just in my part.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12646 on: November 02, 2020, 07:08:07 pm »
every night i leave a little bowl of food and water for the local street cat. it's very cute, never noisy. i think he's the only cat which knows about the food, so he waits for me to give food every night

anyway, i came down this morning and some cnut had purposely stubbed out their cigarette in the cat food, and knocked over the water bowl. like...who does that? why be such a colossal prick? if would cost literally no money and no effort to not do those things


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12647 on: November 02, 2020, 07:43:11 pm »
every night i leave a little bowl of food and water for the local street cat. it's very cute, never noisy. i think he's the only cat which knows about the food, so he waits for me to give food every night

anyway, i came down this morning and some cnut had purposely stubbed out their cigarette in the cat food, and knocked over the water bowl. like...who does that? why be such a colossal prick? if would cost literally no money and no effort to not do those things

What a truly magnificent POS you've discovered. Who does that? Weaklings who've learned that their mother and the law will protect them from any repercussions as a result of acting like a pathetic loser.

I'm not too sure on this, but I believe there's a law against harming animals, which carries a couple million won fine. Perhaps you could put the food and water bowl in view of your apartment's CCTV next time, along with a warning.

Either way, cats are resourceful little ninjas and I'm sure he got a nice meal somewhere else, plenty of neighbourhood ajjumas regularly feed strays and ferals where I live.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12648 on: November 02, 2020, 08:05:09 pm »
What a truly magnificent POS you've discovered. Who does that? Weaklings who've learned that their mother and the law will protect them from any repercussions as a result of acting like a pathetic loser.

I'm not too sure on this, but I believe there's a law against harming animals, which carries a couple million won fine. Perhaps you could put the food and water bowl in view of your apartment's CCTV next time, along with a warning.

Either way, cats are resourceful little ninjas and I'm sure he got a nice meal somewhere else, plenty of neighbourhood ajjumas regularly feed strays and ferals where I live.

I’m not a big fan of cats, but I prefer them to rats, so I also encourage them to be near my building.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12649 on: November 02, 2020, 08:21:30 pm »
What a truly magnificent POS you've discovered. Who does that? Weaklings who've learned that their mother and the law will protect them from any repercussions as a result of acting like a pathetic loser.

I'm not too sure on this, but I believe there's a law against harming animals, which carries a couple million won fine. Perhaps you could put the food and water bowl in view of your apartment's CCTV next time, along with a warning.

Either way, cats are resourceful little ninjas and I'm sure he got a nice meal somewhere else, plenty of neighbourhood ajjumas regularly feed strays and ferals where I live.
actually i think there's cctv around the corner near the bins. i might try and move the food around there if it happens again. nice idea.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12650 on: November 02, 2020, 10:01:40 pm »
Sounds like the work of Buzzy



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12651 on: November 03, 2020, 07:51:41 am »
Yeah, I agree, it could be as simple as him being super pampered and sheltered, but it could also be a phobia of loud noises or anything he fears might have loud noise. And it could just as easily be hidden trauma or something else undiagnosed.

For example, I knew a guy who was a very good student in school, maintained very high grades, was an all around nice guy, seemed very stable... but the minute he heard someone sing "Happy Birthday," it triggered physical tremors, sweating, chain-smoking, and quiet cursing. Then it would take him around 10-20 minutes to become functional and "normal" again. He never talked about why this triggered him and would never ever talk about his past at all, but he did tell me once that he has no family and that he has nothing to do with his parents at all, so it's not hard to assume there's a lot of childhood trauma there.

"Detergent" is what we use for laundry, lol... and for the powdered soap used for the dishwashing machine, but I'm not sure if the latter is universal across the States or just in my part.

Owning a dishwashing machine in NZ was pretty uncommon in the average household. Usually people with money would have one, so it was more common to wash by hand, using a liquid detergent / dish soap. :o
Times may have changed, but that was based on my experience.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12652 on: November 04, 2020, 01:40:49 pm »
had a sort of open class for student teachers in their 3rd year of college......one student said no less than 30 times during my class "Korean is number 1 Korea is best".....how do you deal with those situations when a coteach will not let you lead nor ask the student to stop?

this student is a 5th grade student by the way.....and the student-teachers were laughing the whole time.....did not make for a good lesson cause it was to the point that not only was it rude and I was very annoyed....it began to disrupt class time.
« Last Edit: November 04, 2020, 03:45:12 pm by nightninja »


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12653 on: November 04, 2020, 02:21:17 pm »
had a sort of open class for student teachers in their 3rd year of college......one student said no less than 30 times during my class "Korean is number 1 Korea is best".....how do you deal with those situations when a coteach will not let you lead nor ask the student to stop?

Funny you say that. Today I went to the 3rd grade homeroom saw a strange clay sculpture. A 3rd grade boy had made a sculpture of some Korean person being shot by some Japanese person, illustrating an incident that happened almost 100yrs ago.
The "Dokdo is Korea" paper-mâché sculpture made by a bunch of KINDERGARTEN kids is still on display in the school hallway.

I've found hyper nationalism to be at it's worst in the younger students. They're incredibly impressionable and parrot this BS from their fathers, uncles and grandfathers. By 6th grade, many stop giving a sh*t as they discover that playing with Nintendo Switches and watching Naruto is a lot more fun than shouting "No Japan" over and over. Still, a few slip through the cracks and  I'd say this rhetoric is a symptom of some kind of psychological issue or they have Tourette syndrome.

If they do have a psychological issue and they're at elementary school, you're kind of screwed. We have a kid who shouts uncontrollably and throws his desk over at least 3 times a lesson and my CT has to sit with him in the other class for the entire lesson when he starts to misbehave.

If not, take charge of the class. Override your weak CT and tell him that if he says that sh*t one more time, you'll give him a piece of paper and he can write "Korea is number 1, Korea is best" 100X and/or until the end of the lesson.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12654 on: November 04, 2020, 02:27:15 pm »
UGH. Yeah, the hypernationalism is real. Even with people close to me.

 :-* "What's the most popular car in Canada?"

 :police: Probably the Civic.

 :-* "What's that?"

 :police: It's a sedan from Honda.

 :-* "Honda? HONDA??"  lsdknfloadinian yasukuni oeihfeoibefoinwe comfort women liorgoinfwein tried to erase our language kjsdbfikbdfkbsdf


Like, honestly. Do you think a 24 year Canadian guy is going to think about Nanking and Dokdo when they're buying a 2019 Civic?

Spoiler! They're not.


 
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12655 on: November 04, 2020, 09:33:01 pm »
hog wild?

Anyways, I'm not condoning Korean social culture, I too think it's archaic and BS, I'm just going to do my best to explain it.

Even if your CT said something hurtful, by telling her that what she said hurt your feelings, you've become the architect of a now awkward situation. According to Korean logic, you're now at fault. Furthermore, she considers herself your senior making it even more of a faux pas.

The Korean way is for you to ignore what she said, particularly if she's your senior. Even if someone is at fault, calling them out causes them to lose face and "breaks the harmony" thus, you are the one at fault. Things are changing in the sense that it seems more acceptable to call someone out for bad behaviour in public, however, social interactions seem to be more traditional.

It's absolutely ridiculous, I know. How would Ideal with it? Be more selective as to who you allow into your circle. If it's a work colleague, keep things professional, polite and cordial, but don't get too personal.

Alternatively, could you just be too sensitive? I'm just entertaining the possibility as I've never had a CT say anything nasty to me in years.

Sorry to reply so late...But no I wasn't being overly sensitive.  I simply have asked her on many accounts to stop telling me that I am a foreigner and that being so I can't relate to the students.  I told her this is not true and it hurts me when she says it.

This particular instance came to pass because we had a speech contest (through video) and about 85 percent of the students were reading from the screen and had copied a script of some sort.  I asked "Is this a reading contest"?  What am I judging?  (She hadn't told me she said the kids could sometimes "glance" at the screen).  So I mentioned most of the students haven't prepared for the contest at all.  (Which was true...most of them were either reading from a paper or on the screen)...
She then said that I don't understand Korean students or Korean culture.    And that's when I told her that her words hurt me cause that wasn't the case at all.  Then she proceeded to go "hog wild"......accusing me of not appreciating the students and NOT APPRECIATING KOREA!  (she has said this before when I have gone against her judgement).  She said and I quote "IF YOU GO AGAINST ME YOU GO AGAINST KOREA"....I left the room.

I have no idea how to deal with this woman...as I have said...this is the second time I told her she hurt me.

The first time is when she told me that all foreigners smell like cheese and all Koreans smell like fish and garlic.  I told her that wasn't the case and she told me that she travelled to Australia and the UK and it was true.  I asked her if I smelled like cheese and she said no because I had been living in Korea for many years. 

I told her that her findings were ridiculous and they are weird and then she said for the first time that if I go against her, I go against Korea.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12656 on: November 04, 2020, 09:46:58 pm »
Wow. Honestly, no idea what to say.
The first thing to say is that this is definitely not pyramid selling, OK?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12657 on: November 04, 2020, 10:00:41 pm »
Right!!!!!!  If I tell her I am hurt by her words she flips it around on me.....making me feel like I am the one that is instigating something.....So I should just listen to her quack on? 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12658 on: November 05, 2020, 05:54:27 am »
Sorry to reply so late...But no I wasn't being overly sensitive.  I simply have asked her on many accounts to stop telling me that I am a foreigner and that being so I can't relate to the students.  I told her this is not true and it hurts me when she says it.

This particular instance came to pass because we had a speech contest (through video) and about 85 percent of the students were reading from the screen and had copied a script of some sort.  I asked "Is this a reading contest"?  What am I judging?  (She hadn't told me she said the kids could sometimes "glance" at the screen).  So I mentioned most of the students haven't prepared for the contest at all.  (Which was true...most of them were either reading from a paper or on the screen)...
She then said that I don't understand Korean students or Korean culture.    And that's when I told her that her words hurt me cause that wasn't the case at all.  Then she proceeded to go "hog wild"......accusing me of not appreciating the students and NOT APPRECIATING KOREA!  (she has said this before when I have gone against her judgement).  She said and I quote "IF YOU GO AGAINST ME YOU GO AGAINST KOREA"....I left the room.

I have no idea how to deal with this woman...as I have said...this is the second time I told her she hurt me.

The first time is when she told me that all foreigners smell like cheese and all Koreans smell like fish and garlic.  I told her that wasn't the case and she told me that she travelled to Australia and the UK and it was true.  I asked her if I smelled like cheese and she said no because I had been living in Korea for many years. 

I told her that her findings were ridiculous and they are weird and then she said for the first time that if I go against her, I go against Korea.


This woman is clearly a nutcase and nothing you say is going to change her. Just let what she says be like water off a ducks back. Don't get upset or hurt by her, she is clearly deranged. Just do your best and ignore her if at all possible. Don't say anything like, you hurt my feelings, she will feed off that like a parasite.
There is no known medical cure for stupidity!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12659 on: November 05, 2020, 07:49:38 am »
Sorry to reply so late...But no I wasn't being overly sensitive.  I simply have asked her on many accounts to stop telling me that I am a foreigner and that being so I can't relate to the students.  I told her this is not true and it hurts me when she says it.

Yeah, as Confused said, she's a loony.

What would I do? I'd troll the sh*t out of her. If there's a speech contest, score each student's speech 40 out of 10, for being so amazing and having better English than even native speakers. Badger her repeatedly by insisting she tell you how amazing Korea is. Repeatedly insist she make lessons explaining how amazing Korea is to the students and how Korea is better in every possible way to every other nation.

Alternatively, as Confused said, NEVER let her know she's getting to you. Whenever she says something ridiculous, don't say anything hostile in response just smile and use your facial expression to communicate that you religiously believe that everything that comes out her mouth is the purest BS. Be dismissive of her presence and don't act angry or upset, just give her the impression that to you, her existence and presence is next to meaningless and requires only the bare minimum of your attention.