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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12480 on: August 14, 2020, 08:46:52 pm »
I'm so sick of talking with a Korean in English (teacher/friend etc....it could be anybody cause this has happened to me hundreds of times) and when another Korean person comes in to talk to them in Korean ...they immediately talk to them in Korean and I am left feeling like an idiot. 

I don't know if I should leave or not...I've waited for 20 minutes with my coteachers  and others (including sales people) for them to finish talking to the other person.   Nobody says excuse me,  nobody says I'll talk to you later, nobody says wait for a few, nobody says shit~ I'm left waiting, waiting, waiting.... I'm left waiting around like a neglected child...

This is my hugest pet peeve in Korea.  I've stop/started so many conversations...So many conversations (even intimate ones) are just chopped off once another Korean comes in and then the convo is over?  It's even humiliating to go over to the person and say "Hey....remember when we were talking about....blah blah"......(something important) and then Mr. Kim interrupted our conversation rudely and then you didn't say "Hey I'm talking to someone" can you "hang on" and you let him drone on for 20 minutes and knew I was waiting for the answer to my question....(i never said this to anyone....)...


It's rude as hell and pisses me the **** off more than anything in this country, (even more than the driving)....

I never know what to do...but I am sick and tired of waiting around....acting/feeling like a hurt-bag!
« Last Edit: August 14, 2020, 09:12:25 pm by dippedinblush »


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12481 on: August 14, 2020, 09:33:23 pm »
Do you have what they call, The Noonchi? Cuz if you did you would realize that everybody else is higher on the totem pole and you’re the last thing on their mind. Every other conversation is more important than the one they were having with you. It’s like a 6th sense. Takes a while to develop, but once you do, it all makes sense.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12482 on: August 14, 2020, 09:34:58 pm »
Obviously I don't have the nunchi!  Waiting for Godot for the other teachers to reciprocate...  I think waiting for a minimum of 1 hour shows your respect!  Obviously I failed......I bailed after 20-30 mins.  I was hangry.
« Last Edit: August 14, 2020, 09:58:34 pm by dippedinblush »


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12483 on: August 15, 2020, 03:06:23 am »
Good. Best not to be ruled by The Noonchi, or it will destroy you.

That kind of stuff is super annoying tho. Hope it was a satisfying stress eat!


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12484 on: August 16, 2020, 02:52:00 pm »
Great! My school is going back to online classes. **** these churches!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12485 on: August 16, 2020, 04:11:51 pm »
I'm so sick of talking with a Korean in English (teacher/friend etc....it could be anybody cause this has happened to me hundreds of times) and when another Korean person comes in to talk to them in Korean ...they immediately talk to them in Korean and I am left feeling like an idiot. 

I never know what to do...but I am sick and tired of waiting around....acting/feeling like a hurt-bag!

I've experienced this too and I feel your pain. I've heard of 'Nunchi' and interrupt as guidelines to follow social etiquette or protocol. Honestly, I think many people aren't particularly good at their own culture's etiquette, they've the social graces of a retarded baboon to Koreans as well. 

- At school, if it's a student interrupting my conversation with a teacher, they're getting a scolding.
- If it's a teacher interrupting my conversation with another teacher, I'll wait a maximum of 30sec, say excuse me, and then walk away.  Oftentimes, they'll ask where I'm going and I'll say I've got work to do. Typically, the hint is received that they were being rude.
- Sometimes, even if it's an adult, I will tell them to wait a moment. The way I see it, I'm not embarrassing them, they're embarrassing themselves by interrupting a conversation. I pick my battles though and usually just walk away if it's not worth the trouble. 

The onus is on us as well for not being particularly good at Korean and not being able to join in on the conversation, but when my CT and I are talking about the lesson plan and the gym teacher bursts in, without knocking obviously, to spend 20min bitching about her husband, that's a different story.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12486 on: August 17, 2020, 05:49:19 am »
My reference to Noonchi was a bit tongue in cheek. People say it means something like “social awareness” but the only time I’ve been praised for it is when I seemed to pick up on the power dynamic of a social situation. It only really matters if used to discern the vagaries of mood of someone higher than you in the pecking order and to act in a way to appease them.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12487 on: August 17, 2020, 08:15:23 pm »
My reference to Noonchi was a bit tongue in cheek. People say it means something like “social awareness” but the only time I’ve been praised for it is when I seemed to pick up on the power dynamic of a social situation. It only really matters if used to discern the vagaries of mood of someone higher than you in the pecking order and to act in a way to appease them.

Yup, me too! 
I've experienced this too and I feel your pain. I've heard of 'Nunchi' and interrupt as guidelines to follow social etiquette or protocol. Honestly, I think many people aren't particularly good at their own culture's etiquette, they've the social graces of a retarded baboon to Koreans as well. 

- At school, if it's a student interrupting my conversation with a teacher, they're getting a scolding.
- If it's a teacher interrupting my conversation with another teacher, I'll wait a maximum of 30sec, say excuse me, and then walk away.  Oftentimes, they'll ask where I'm going and I'll say I've got work to do. Typically, the hint is received that they were being rude.
- Sometimes, even if it's an adult, I will tell them to wait a moment. The way I see it, I'm not embarrassing them, they're embarrassing themselves by interrupting a conversation. I pick my battles though and usually just walk away if it's not worth the trouble. 

The onus is on us as well for not being particularly good at Korean and not being able to join in on the conversation, but when my CT and I are talking about the lesson plan and the gym teacher bursts in, without knocking obviously, to spend 20min bitching about her husband, that's a different story.

I thought it must be the fact that I don't know Korean proficiently....but I know Korean sufficiently, so that is not the case.  It's that we are foreigners, that's it.

I've also been asked or told  "Why did you leave?"( after waiting 20 mins), "You shouldn't have left, that was rude" (happened 3 days ago, hence my RANT post). 

I have a good sense of awareness and I wouldn't let someone wait for over 3 minutes, let alone 20 without explaining why (in any language). That is so rude. 

Koreans: get some manners about this shit!  Fix it!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12488 on: August 17, 2020, 11:23:39 pm »
My reference to Noonchi was a bit tongue in cheek. People say it means something like “social awareness” but the only time I’ve been praised for it is when I seemed to pick up on the power dynamic of a social situation. It only really matters if used to discern the vagaries of mood of someone higher than you in the pecking order and to act in a way to appease them.
Yup, me too!

I should amend that to say a person can be noonchi 없다 in virtually any context, particularly a domestic one!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12489 on: August 17, 2020, 11:58:19 pm »
my noons are so dap-dap hey-yo, for the night ....  :huh:
they are either ...iso or eopso!  They can't decide!   :cry:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12490 on: August 18, 2020, 06:18:34 am »
my noons are so dap-dap hey-yo, for the night ....  :huh:
they are either ...iso or eopso!  They can't decide!   :cry:

Yur noons r gucci


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12491 on: August 18, 2020, 07:02:37 am »
i stopped going to those dinners when i worked at public school for the same reason. in fact, i stopped taking part in any of the events, including paying the monthly fee. no one talked to me anyway

the only time i've heard people say 눈치없다 about me is when they complain i didn't do something they were trying to pressure me into. f it


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12492 on: August 18, 2020, 07:30:45 am »
Yur noons r gucci

Too many noons being spoken about, and not enough moms, eums, parks, gils.  They deserve a mention.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12493 on: August 18, 2020, 09:59:02 am »
Too many noons being spoken about, and not enough moms, eums, parks, gils.  They deserve a mention.

Yeah, we all know you have a thing for moms, but I’m still high on noon.

A more interesting concept to me than noonchi is noon-ssulmi and kwi-ssulmi, but funny enough ssulmi itself isn’t a word, or at least I haven’t been able to locate a definition. A term so untranslatable, even the Korean dictionaries are stumped! I like it enough that I thought Solmi (the aspirated SS might be a bit strong) would make a good name for my child, but my wife nixed it because “mi” is more typical of girl names. In fact most of the names I make up and think have a nice ring to them, when I perform a google image search of them (“김XX”), female faces are typically populated. I guess Bum-suk it is... :-[


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12494 on: August 18, 2020, 10:17:36 am »
Yeah, we all know you have a thing for moms, but I’m still high on noon.

A more interesting concept to me than noonchi is noon-ssulmi and kwi-ssulmi, but funny enough ssulmi itself isn’t a word, or at least I haven’t been able to locate a definition. A term so untranslatable, even the Korean dictionaries are stumped! I like it enough that I thought Solmi (the aspirated SS might be a bit strong) would make a good name for my child, but my wife nixed it because “mi” is more typical of girl names. In fact most of the names I make up and think have a nice ring to them, when I perform a google image search of them (“김XX”), female faces are typically populated. I guess Bum-suk it is... :-[

귀썰미  and 눈썰미 are about talent and the ability to pick up something quickly just by listening or seeing.  I suppose 귀썰미 would be good for languages or for music once you've heard it, it stays with you and you can recite it well.  눈썰미 for art and painting.  Once you've been taught the first time, it stays with you.  'Sharp eyes' maybe?

I always thought 'Mia' would be a good name for a Korean girl.  Until I found out it meant 'missing child'.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12495 on: August 18, 2020, 10:33:28 am »
귀썰미  and 눈썰미 are about talent and the ability to pick up something quickly just by listening or seeing.  I suppose 귀썰미 would be good for languages or for music once you've heard it, it stays with you and you can recite it well.  눈썰미 for art and painting.  Once you've been taught the first time, it stays with you.  'Sharp eyes' maybe?

I always thought 'Mia' would be a good name for a Korean girl.  Until I found out it meant 'missing child'.

Right. My thinking was that if you can have noon-ssulmi and kwi-ssulmi, then ssulmi itself must have some definition akin to “perceptive”, but I couldn’t find a single entry for 썰미 in the Naver dictionary.

I wonder if Mia isn’t some portmanteau of “미싱” and “아기”...


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12496 on: August 19, 2020, 05:33:17 am »
A plurality of Republicans (44%) believes that Microsoft founder Bill Gates wants to use a mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 to implant microchips in people.

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/05/26/republicans-democrats-misinformation

Half of Americans who watch Fox News as their primary news source (50%) indicated that they believe the statement about Gates is true.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12497 on: August 20, 2020, 01:33:14 pm »
someone keeps deleting my gay jar jar meme, which is homophobic imo


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12498 on: August 20, 2020, 01:40:14 pm »
someone keeps deleting my gay jar jar meme, which is homophobic imo

I like that you keep checking in on it   :cheesy:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #12499 on: August 20, 2020, 02:38:43 pm »
A plurality of Republicans (44%) believes that Microsoft founder Bill Gates wants to use a mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 to implant microchips in people.

https://today.yougov.com/topics/politics/articles-reports/2020/05/26/republicans-democrats-misinformation

Half of Americans who watch Fox News as their primary news source (50%) indicated that they believe the statement about Gates is true.


Most people in the US are opposed to the form of numerals you cited.

https://www.iflscience.com/editors-blog/56-percent-of-americans-dont-think-we-should-teach-arabic-numerals-in-school/

"Should schools teach Arabic numerals as part of their curriculum?"

* LIV% oppose
* XXIX% in favor
* XV% No opinion
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