Doing the VO stuff was your decision, but as far as materials, assuming you made them during working hours or using tools supplied by your employer, they are called "work product" and belong to the employer. I'm glad you have a good relationship with your Cos but this has come up before from people who wanted to destroy every piece of anything out of spite. This is ill-advised and technically illegal since the stuff you did at work, for work, doesn't belong to you, it belongs to your work.
Yes but what is anyone going to do about it if you don't share your materials?
What are your opinions on giving material to Korean teachers when leaving a job? (not uploading to Wayg thats a different thing)
Based on the source of a number of my materials and templates I'd feel obligated to ask Mr. C's permission first.
How did waygook.org user LIC get his name changed to Liechtenstein?
"If your employment contract assigns copyright ownership of materials produced for the classroom to the teacher, then you probably have a green light. Absent any written agreement, however, the Copyright Act of 1976 stipulates that materials created by teachers in the scope of their employment are deemed “works for hire” and therefore the school owns them.[Many teachers], however, believe that if they create materials on their own time, using their own equipment, they surely have the right to do with them as they please.“Under the [American] law... this may not make a difference. The issue is whether you created the materials as part of your job duties.”In 2004, a federal appellate court in New York ruled that “tests, quizzes, homework problems, and other teaching materials” were works made for hire owned by the district and that the “academic tradition” of granting authors ownership of their own scholarly work cannot be applied to materials not explicitly intended for publication."
I'm not entirely familiar with how the Korean copy-right system works, but I do know that most of its laws are based on American ones, and that in the USA, materials generated by teachers are owned by the School district: teachers have been successfully sued by their employers for selling their lesson materials online (this includes materials generated for class that were done in the teacher's free time). [Source = NEA] Again, this is in the USA, but there's a good chance that it's the same here in Korea as well. I'd love to hear from anybody that can confirm or deny this with links to official sites! ...This is all well and good, but in the end, it's hard for a school to claim your work if you've "accidentally" deleted it all from your hard drive...
<shrug>This is a bit like returning your shopping cart in the parking lot. No one will ticket you if you don't do it, it just means you're a complete f*****d. You're the kind of person we need laws and criminal justice systems and jack-booted police for. You don't willingly follow the rules, you have be pressured, forced or cowed into doing what is right.
hm, strange shopping trolley analogy. also not sure what the police has to do with not wanting to share materials with undeserving co-workers. none of these things are really the same thing
to indicate that it wasn't really the same but a sort of parallel case ...
I'm not going to get into the whole downloading things and passing them off as your own argument. We are all adults and you can choose to work however you wish. Personally, I design, create and deliver my own material from scratch. Again, nobody owns that but me.I'm an industrial designer so am fully versed on all of the laws surrounding intellectual property and ownership of.The original question was ethics based, not ownership based.
I'm not entirely familiar with how the Korean copyright system works,
Thought the obvious glibness was obvious. Apparently not. See, what I was implying was that a lot of materials weren't actually created by me, so it's not entirely my decision. And I meant that flippantly as a small joke.
Interesting. But luckily thats not the case with foreign, temp contracted workers in Korea and IP. (aka most of us) Actual workers play by different rules (just look at the vacation and desk warming saga).
The only issue you face is using trademarked photos or pictures on PPT's. Ran into this issue when working privately and had to adapt some of my work.
Would be interesting to hear from them actual Korean teachers about this though about the things they produce. I'll go and ask them about their work and get back to you.
It depends on my relationship with them. If they've been helpful and considerate towards me in general, they can have anything they want. If they've tried to avoid doing more than the bare minimum or treated me like a chore at all, I straight up tell them no. With all that being said, though, most KTs don't ask me for my materials, and, whenever they do, it's only for a random ppt here and there. I wouldn't mind audio recordings, but I'd say no to any video recordings. Just not comfortable with that at all. And I'm like tyler, I leave most if not all of my materials to a new NET if I'm being replaced at a school anyway. I'm not possessive over my stuff, I just don't want a lazy asshole taking advantage of me, haha.
well, they're not really though
I would imagine that intellectual property rights are a lot like labour laws in that they apply to everybody equally.
they followed instructions maybe a little too closely, and the likeness was... striking.
I'd be interested in knowing official rules, as it's hypothetically possible that I've hypothetically made some money in the distant past generating .ppts and worksheet packages. It would be nice to know if I'm hypothetically breaking IP laws as well as hypothetically not abiding by contractual ones. Hypothetically.
I officially requested a change of one of my travel schools. The students over the last 2 years were really horrible, some good students there, but overshadowed by the bad ones. This year, the students are only slightly better in the classroom, and not as destructive, so after a bad class 2 weeks ago, I had enough and officially requested a change to a different travel school.It's become a huge ordeal. All 3 of my schools have contacted about it, the other 2 said there was no problems and stuff, and the co-t at the horrible school, said she doesn't know about any problems there, even though we have discussed them for over 2 years. So tomorrow, I have some official coming to watch how much the students listen to me and I'm worried the co-t is going to try bribe the students in someway to listen to me so I don't get changed. Plus general nerves for having someone watch the class.
That's a pile of crapness Kayos. Hope it goes okay. It's such a stupid way of doing things. As soon as someone else comes to watch a class, the behaviour changes of the students. Why can't they just take your word for it considering it's carried on for so long?
