RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

Or how about we come out of the clouds and deal with the divinity within and around us and heal our beautiful world, our selves and each other with compassion and loving-kindness, because we have won the genetic lottery! 

We actually have the opportunity to exist on this Earth.....(I don't know the odds of us even existing)? (probably a trillion to1 or more)??  How can we know?  We are so lucky to be here!!  Living and breathing.   Isn't that enough magic?  Do we need to hurt each other so?

Compassion? Loving kindness? Do we need to hurt each other so?

You, yourself are not exactly off to a flying start.

I took the time to respond to your long story and relay what I thought was a beautiful story of compassion and forgiveness. Did you criticize it? No, not a single constructive argument or response that was anything more than a joke. Are you in the habit of asking people serious questions and making fun of their responses? In the future, inform more that you have zero intention of engaging in an intelligent conversation and I'll know better than to waste my time.

You may have your reservations about Religion, that's fine, but that's no excuse to not have any manners.

You responded to my previous argument by bringing up my family, yes, you did apologize, but I wouldn't so quick to grandstand my "lets be compassionate and kind to others" beliefs so soon after being that nasty to a stranger.

Being a Lesbian and an Atheist does not make you tolerant or open-minded, in fact, your views sound as fascist and narrow-minded as some of the most conservative and fundamentalist Afrikaner Christians, from the Dutch Reform Church, and fundamentalist Muslims (the ones who beat their wives) that I've heard of:

- You aren't interested in discussing or even hearing about the beliefs of others, you simply want to mock and rant.
- You know next to nothing about beliefs other than your own.
- You discriminate and group all people of a Religion into a single mindset because you don't know any better.
- You don't tolerate others having views which don't coincide with yours.
- You believe everyone should be like you.

... sounds pretty fascist and right-wing Southern Baptist/ pro-Sharia Muslim to me.

It's ironic that you ended up becoming exactly like the people who gave you a hard time as a kid.
Being compassionate and kind is step 4, if I were you I'd work on step 1, which is "don't be an asshole".

You disagree? Fine...

Ignore everything and tell me how your "f*ck your stupid beliefs, you dumb f*ck. Lets just be nice to each other" approach ends up working in reality.

So found out while at dinner that I was supposed to have an after school class today. (Got a call that my "students were waiting for me") Literally no one told me + I wasn't even at that school today.  Fun times, lol.

Aristocrat,

I don't know how to quote Waygook properly so I will write in a different medium and hope it transfers well.  (Colburrn...sorry if the format is weird)

First of all, I thank you? for responding to me but I never asked for it and you didn't do me a favour so let us squash that right now.

Also, the parable you chose from the hadith was not a beautiful one to me.  It was insulting.  As far as I can gather it was an attempt by you to patronise me further.  The prostitute offering a dog water is being kind and then Allah smiles on her because of her kindness.  OK...and so?  How does that apply to me?  Am I the dirty prostitute, or the dog?  Does that mean I have never performed a kindness to someone in need, and need to?  Does it mean if I am kind, Allah/God will forgive me of my sins?? It didn't translate well at all.. and I treated it as a joke, because it is ridiculous as hell.   Honestly...??  Was I supposed to take that well? 

The hadith is biblical exegesis much like the talmud/midrash is in Judaism.  It's just a bunch of stories and commentaries from biblical fathers and scholars expounding on the main Quran text itself.  Some of it becomes a part of the belief system as the culture sees fit...Doesn't sharia law do that to establish itself as Law and don't you follow your own type of sharia yourself?

 You keep saying......beheadi ngs aren't the real Islam...it's Sharia.... stonings, and all of the bad shit we see about Islam, aren't the real Islam, it's Sharia...where does the "real Islam" start then?  It doesn't!  Islam and sharia law are intertwined. And u know it! I know you are fine with judging me and your own gay family (who you have mentioned here) and I find that truly awful.  Who needs that hanging over them??!  You must be the last person they wish to be at family gatherings!!!

As for your other comments which were based in anger.  How do you know I'm atheist?  You don't know what I believe at all...I'm just a lesbian atheist to you....perhaps the scariest of creatures.....

In fact my undergraduate was ....get this ...a degree in religious studies.  I am open to talk about religion all day long.  (Granted...I never really did study Islam as much as I would have liked to),  but I do know a bit more than you think.  It's very hard for me to talk with you candidly about Islam in this forum and knowing that I am gay and sinning......your immediate beliefs hurt much more than I would/could have expected.  I have never encountered that before.  I was taught through my "courses" not to judge any religion...but I think that stony view is bullshit.  If a religion is hurting good people, for no reason it should be turned upside down, much like fucked up Christian groups like the Westboro Baptist church has been. 

I would encourage you to not judge me as well (even though you don't WANT judge me...you HAVE to because your god demands it)~ I'm not an asshole (as much as I would like to be....and scream at you from the top of my lungs), and I can't help but judge your beliefs because they pertain deeply to me and cut at my heart for being NORMAL, not a prostitute or a murderer. Being gay is normal, you asshole.

I don't think you are a dumbfuck for believing in Allah, but I can call you a dumbfuck for continually calling the video game you are playing...LAST OF US 2 as the "angry lesbian" game over and over.  It's like...hey dudes....I'm gonna play the angry lesbian game!!!!!! Hyuck hyuck hyuck......Ok Aristocrat...hyuck hyuck are you sure you wanna???

Get a grip!  You are acting like a pompous grosso on all levels Aristocrat. 

Last night, my girlfriend's parents said that "she could do better" in front of me.

And, that hurts. A lot.

Last night, my girlfriend's parents said that "she could do better" in front of me.

And, that hurts. A lot.

That’s hard to take. It probably says more about their high regard for their daughter than it does anything about you personally. I’m sure my parents-in-law have thought similarly about me (but with good reason!), and perhaps even said as much within earshot if only I had the lingual capacity to understand. This is further proof that foreigners are better off not learning the language here!

This is further proof that foreigners are better off not learning the language here!

Amen bra. Ignorance is bliss

CO2, doesn't your girlfriend have a kid from a prior relationship? Nothing wrong with that in my book, but divorcees aren't exactly cream of the crop here in Korea. Her parents are either deluded or flat out racist, possibly both. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a hand in the demise of her previous relationship. Put your foot down now or you'll be in for a shitstorm (speaking from experience)

Last night, my girlfriend's parents said that "she could do better" in front of me.

And, that hurts. A lot.

Don't focus on it too much.  Korean parents can be very picky and direct when they have correct or incorrect reservations about their son/daughter's partner.  I heard from some parent's that I met that they had reservations because they thought 'I'd steal their daughter and move abroad'.  What it should do is make you try harder, through your actions and words.  Show how you get on well with their granddaughter and how well you take care of their daughter.  Then they'll come around.  I've also heard numerous stories from Korean friends who didn't get the blessing from their future parents-in-law.  One elementary teacher I used to work with was 7 years older than his girlfriend and they flat out told him no to his face, because he was too old.  He stuck at it for months, they came around and they got married and are now very happy with a family.  Also, when you understand Korean you hear a lot of '불상'and '아깝다' when people gossip about other's potential partners.  The second expression is said more in jest, by their friends.  Different cultures n'all.  Don't take it to heart, but see it as a opportunity to prove yourself if you're serious about her.  Love isn't easy would be the old cliche. 

Last night, my girlfriend's parents said that "she could do better" in front of me.

And, that hurts. A lot.

Ahh dude that sucks, you shoulda snapped back with something. 'Well she could do worse, she could be dating a Korean!' 'Well she could do worse, she could be dating someone who pretends to be a woman on the internet!' Something along those lines...

Keep your head up, you are dating her not her parents. Their opinion is pretty meaningless.

Last night, my girlfriend's parents said that "she could do better" in front of me.

And, that hurts. A lot.

Have they not seen your memes!?!

'Well she could do worse, she could be dating someone who pretends to be a woman on the internet!'

Last night, my girlfriend's parents said that "she could do better" in front of me.
And, that hurts. A lot.

If they can't appreciate you, that's their loss!

If I may attempt to console you with music...

youtu.be/PIh2xe4jnpk

Definitely don't take Ronnie's blue pill advice. You'll be pandering to their delusion for the rest of time. They should be kissing your ass for offering to fill the void in their daughter's (and especially their granddaughter's) lives. Come on man, you're too old to be dealing with that shit. You're not 16 anymore. Do you really need that stone around your neck?

Required reading: https://www.amazon.com/No-More-Mr-Nice-Guy/dp/0762415339

Definitely don't take Ronnie's blue pill advice. You'll be pandering to their delusion for the rest of time. They should be kissing your ass for offering to fill the void in their daughter's (and especially their granddaughter's) lives. Come on man, you're too old to be dealing with that shit. You're not 16 anymore. Do you really need that stone around your neck?

Required reading: https://www.amazon.com/No-More-Mr-Nice-Guy/dp/0762415339

+1. No parent wants their daughter to date a weak, limp, beta. Stand up for yourself.

What it should do is make you try harder, through your actions and words.

I keep reading this purely for the laugh

Anyway, no homo, but if I had a daughter the one waygookin I'd trust her to is KG. We know he's not a spineless pu$$y for the way he shut down the virus spreader in the coffee shop.

Thanks for the kind words, guys. Yeah, 아깝다 came up. And theman, I read that book. I used to be a real people pleaser but I'm more assertive now. I'm not a tank but I do realise that I am a pushover a lot and I've stood up or myself more, especially in my relationship.

GF told her parents to fukk off, and her brother, too. I think that this was the proverbial straw TBH, there's been some issues for a while.

Her mother will phone her, like, 4 times a day and video call once with the grandkid......EVERY DAY. Like, holy hell, They live 35 mins away, they're not starved for interaction with their daughter/grand daughter. My parents are in Canada and I phone them every couple of months. There's no rule for this, obviously and every relationship is different, but good lord, like............ go away.

I told GF about the premise for Everybody Loves Raymond and her eyes got big, haha

Her mother will phone her, like, 4 times a day and video call once with the grandkid......EVERY DAY. Like, holy hell, They live 35 mins away, they're not starved for interaction with their daughter/grand daughter.

Dude I'm not even remotely surprised to read this. Some parents want their children to stay children forever. My mom's a bit like that, It's such a weird impulse. You could be Mark f***ing Zuckerbeg and they'd still tell her you're not good enough. 

Thanks for the kind words, guys. Yeah, 아깝다 came up. I used to be a real people pleaser but I'm more assertive now. I'm not a tank but I do realise that I am a pushover a lot and I've stood up or myself more, especially in my relationship.

This happens a lot here.  Don't worry about it.  Do what you're doing.  They'll come around.  Don't listen to the faux-tough guy approach espoused here.  It's a different country with different rules.  Like I said, 아깝다 comes up a lot here if you keep your ears open.  It's nothing to worry about.  Just Koreans putting in their opinions, whether you like it or not.  This is Korea, pushing through some nonsense tough guy bollocks will get you nowhere.  You can't win them over because of the language barrier, that is why actions speak louder.  For those with more experience, what they said is not the end.  You just have to show that you're worth it. 

You could be Mark f***ing Zuckerbeg and they'd still tell her you're not good enough.

Side note, but what is it with the whole Mark Zuckerberg thing? I remember that one girl mentioning him in her video on why people don't like foreigners or whatever (if they were successful like Zucc and Gates they wouldn't have to move here etc), is he like, the archetype of a successful American, because the dude is more like the archetype of somebody whose probably a lizard person