RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

Not to be that "Listen to Guy on Joe Rogan" guy, but biologist Bret Weinstein has some things to say on COVID's origins that are certainly food for thought. Does this mean he is right and should be taken as true? Of course not, but between this and his discussion of telomeric differences in lab mice, regular mice, and humans is certainly something to consider.

https://youtu.be/pRCzZp1J0v0?t=6770

Oh dear...

''But it occurred naturally''

Did it? Do you know that? How do you know that? Has there been an international investigation from a non-CCP bankrolled organisation? Have China allowed countries into the area to completely strip apart the reasons why this happened? Have the CCP admitted to attempting to cover up/silence/disappear people who tried to raise the alarm? Did the WHO advise that 'there is no proof of human to human transmission' and that 'border closures are unnecessary'?

Looks to me like you have already decided that China must be believed and that possible reasons why this happened that paint China in a bad light are 'CoNSpIrAcY tHeOriEs'

12 posts and you are going to pipe up on this topic?... HMMMMMMMMMMMMM

12 posts and you are going to pipe up on this topic?... HMMMMMMMMMMMMM

ah yes this is definitely encouraging for any new posters...

ah yes this is definitely encouraging for any new posters...

Seems strange to pick this topic to start your Waygook career, don't you think?

One would choose a lighter topic such as various food threads, work related threads, lesson planning threads and the like. Not staunch defence of the CCP and going after credible viral outbreak theories. No one said that the CCP deliberately released the virus, only it may have escaped from.

C H A R I S M A

Seems strange to pick this topic to start your Waygook career, don't you think?

One would choose a lighter topic such as various food threads, work related threads, lesson planning threads and the like. Not staunch defence of the CCP and going after credible viral outbreak theories. No one said that the CCP deliberately released the virus, only it may have escaped from.

C H A R I S M A

I mean I'm pretty sure I started my Waygook career either here or on the Trump thread lol

I mean I'm pretty sure I started my Waygook career either here or on the Trump thread lol

Going after 3 prominent posters with bs articles that don't support your argument around a sensitive topic on your 12th post is pretty ballsy/bizarre and a recipe for blowback.

Perhaps we should have responded with balloons a welcome card and some rainbow candy to keep Tyler happy.

"How we know the COVID-19 coronavirus wasn't made in a lab" https://www.businessinsider.com/coronavirus-lab-manmade-myth-debunked-2020-6

These are just two articles from countless others you could find with a simple search.

I went through the 2nd article. The first required turning off my adblocker, which I never do.

 "certainly, accidents happen in laboratories," the high level of biocontainment at Shi's lab makes it unlikely, he said. BSL-4 labs have the most stringent biosafety protocols"

Much as I'd love to remain as objective as possible and detach politics from the equation, it's simply NOT possible when talking about China. In China, you're able to get away with marketing a decrepit, old sh*tbox as a 4-star Sheraton. The Red Cross in China functions nothing like the international standards of the Red Cross in other countries. You simply can't trust China to follow the same protocols other countries adder to.

"Having attended conferences at which Shi has spoken about her work, Le Duc said she is a highly reputable scientist. "She's always been extremely open, transparent, and collaborative, and I have no reason to doubt that she's telling the truth," he said.

Again, the CCP has a way of making you sing a very different tune and why should I take this guys word for it?

"Even so, Perlman decried the use of unproven origin theories to push agendas. "I think it's been used way too much as a political issue," he said. "This politicization of this is very unfortunate."

This stinks of soft-power propaganda. If a scientist is going to discuss the virus on a purely biological level, fine, but don't bring your political opinions into it by saying "the politicization is very unfortunate" when you're trying to detach politics... screw this person. Politics is the reason the virus spread through China and the rest of the world. Imagine your friend or family member got hit by a drunk driver and some asshat says "It wasn't the drunk driver that killed your sister, it was his car, so we should focus on reprimanding the car and be emphatic to the driver."

If the same thing happened in a country like the US, Korea or any other Democratic nation, yes, we could accept this kind of conclusion as there'd be transparency. Any kind of data coming out of China cannot be trusted. Scientists use this data to draw conclusions and create theories, so in this case, every single research methodology regarding the CCP virus will have the "China factor".

With this in mind, I think it would be foolish to blindly trust any scientific evidence regarding the origin of the virus. Science is only as good as the data.

I don't feel that just because somebody has a lower post count that they should stay out of discussions. Just the opposite, really.

Waygook is like any other forum: some people post a lot, and some people don't. Doesn't really say anything about the quality of their posts. 

I don't feel that just because somebody has a lower post count that they should stay out of discussions. Just the opposite, really.

Waygook is like any other forum: some people post a lot, and some people don't. Doesn't really say anything about the quality of their posts. 

^Exactly. There's no reason to point out the post count, especially when we can just call out their argument itself for being nonsense

Perhaps we should have responded with balloons a welcome card and some rainbow candy to keep Tyler happy.

yeah you probably should've, huh?

idk why you're surprised a new poster commented on a topic you guys wont stop posting about. your "12 posts and you are going to pipe up on this topic?... HMMMMMMMMMMMMM" comment makes it seem like you think it's a troll account or something. the colburnnn i know sticks to the arguments. LOL

after all, i began my waygook "career" arguing with eggieguffer (miss u buddy) about whether or not armenians are white. it just happened to be the topic of discussion at the time.

yeah you probably should've, huh?

idk why you're surprised a new poster commented on a topic you guys wont stop posting about. your "12 posts and you are going to pipe up on this topic?... HMMMMMMMMMMMMM" comment makes it seem like you think it's a troll account or something. the colburnnn i know sticks to the arguments. LOL

after all, i began my waygook "career" arguing with eggieguffer (miss u buddy) about whether or not armenians are white. it just happened to be the topic of discussion at the time.

No, I shouldn't have. At all.

It's not ok to 'keep posting about' this but it is ok to 'keep posting about' the President every damn day... Highly selective one aren't you goob.

It's suspicious. Hence the sarcastic HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM MMMMMMMMMM

bb has the biggest cnut award, but you sir, seem to have been born not with a stick, but a huge log up your arse. It needs removing.

I don't feel that just because somebody has a lower post count that they should stay out of discussions. Just the opposite, really.

Waygook is like any other forum: some people post a lot, and some people don't. Doesn't really say anything about the quality of their posts. 

That's fine, but you come across as suspicious if you haven't taken the time to establish you are not a troll or a sock.

That's fine, but you come across as suspicious if you haven't taken the time to establish you are not a troll or a sock.

innocent until proven guilty 

That's fine, but you come across as suspicious if you haven't taken the time to establish you are not a troll or a sock.

That's true I guess.
But the poster's IP address is from within Korea and no other user is currently sharing it, if that's at all reassuring.

But the poster's IP address is from within Korea and no other user is currently sharing it, if that's at all reassuring.

Okay smarty pants, what colour sweater am I wearing?

It's not ok to 'keep posting about' this but it is ok to 'keep posting about' the President every damn day... Highly selective one aren't you goob.

what in the world are you on about? it's okay to keep posting about whatever you want. it's just a fact that you guys keep posting about it so idk why you're surprised that a new account would comment on it.

and there's still nothing suspicious about it. check the dude's post history. nothing seems even a little suspicious. it's just another case of someone disagreeing with you, so of course they must be a troll/insane/have a log up their ass.

That's fine, but you come across as suspicious if you haven't taken the time to establish you are not a troll or a sock.

what are you taaaaaaaalking about. just look at your own post history dude. from your fifth post on you started posting about political stuff

Okay smarty pants, what colour sweater am I wearing?

Ha! Trick question! We all know you teach shirtless.

I don't feel that just because somebody has a lower post count that they should stay out of discussions. Just the opposite, really.

Waygook is like any other forum: some people post a lot, and some people don't. Doesn't really say anything about the quality of their posts. 

Exactly.  This is why post counts really need to be removed.  They don't confer any sort of insight.  There are plenty of people in Korea who have been here ages that if they joined Waygook would be considered a newb because of post count by some posters and their opinions considered less valid.  I remember years ago some poor admitted new arrival came on with a question and mistaking post count for experience I guess, specifically named the leading posters of the time, Pecan and DMartin, hoping for their help.  Can you imagine any two posters less inclined to help?  Two of the angriest dudes out there.  I almost miss Pecan's way of taking some posters small issue and ratcheting it up to an extreme catastrophe with the goal of making the person in question feel more concerned and worried.  DMart we all know. 

Anyways, I say eliminate the post count and the titles that go with it.  It's misleading.  It's especially unfair to those poor few that did so much posting that they obtained the 5000 poster title of Waygook Loser.  Couldn't Arsalan have found a gentler LO word that doesn't mock them as much?  Haha, I'm joking of course. It's quite an accomplishment. 

I, uh, just want to point out that my obnoxiously high post count is totally due to the fact that I set up all the textbook LP threads. 

Speaking of which, if there are textbooks that you want to see resource threads started for, let me know and I'll see what I can do.

NE 능률 Middle School English 1, 2, and 3:
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