RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

 

 

 

 

Nothing better than a martin pile on.  You wrote your own TOS rules for 'opinion' posting and, quite rightly, there is a pile on when you don't adhere to your own rules.  Sounds kind of ignorant on your part.   

I mean, to be fair, PB, even targeted at Korean tastes and preferences, still isn't particularly good. It's not awful, but it's not an upscale cafe or bakery or anything. It's a fast food bakery franchise that sells slightly overpriced pre-made baked goods, sandwiches, etc. Their main selling point isn't quality, it's convenience. I don't mind PB if I'm hungry and in a hurry. It's certainly not as bad as the Clam comic makes it out to be. But, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say it's good good.

I mean, to be fair, PB, even targeted at Korean tastes and preferences, still isn't particularly good. It's not awful, but it's not an upscale cafe or bakery or anything. It's a fast food bakery franchise that sells slightly overpriced pre-made baked goods, sandwiches, etc. Their main selling point isn't quality, it's convenience. I don't mind PB if I'm hungry and in a hurry. It's certainly not as bad as the Clam comic makes it out to be. But, I think it's a bit of a stretch to say it's good good.

You're missing the point.  I don't think anyone is saying it's good.  Pretty much the opposite.  The point is that DMart usually comes after people when they say something here is crap because, "how dare they assume it was marketed at them in the first place!" and this is just another symptom of his perceived westerner attitude of superiority in Korea.  Then, Dmart went and did the exact same thing.  It's the hypocrisy people are commenting on, rather than defending the goods from PB.  We all know it's fast food crap. 

PB is what it is, and I do like some things they sell there. I generally prefer Tous les Jours for desserts, though. It does pastry crusts and cakes better.

You're missing the point.  I don't think anyone is saying it's good.  Pretty much the opposite.  The point is that DMart usually comes after people when they say something here is crap because, "how dare they assume it was marketed at them in the first place!" and this is just another symptom of his perceived westerner attitude of superiority in Korea.  Then, Dmart went and did the exact same thing.  It's the hypocrisy people are commenting on, rather than defending the goods from PB.  We all know it's fast food crap. 

Wait. So what you're saying is that you agree with waygook.org user Mr.DeMartino that PB isn't very good. And, even though you literally agree with him, you're still trying to antagonize him?

You guys are weird.

Wait. So what you're saying is that you agree with waygook.org user Mr.DeMartino that PB isn't very good. And, even though you literally agree with him, you're still trying to antagonize him?

You guys are weird.

Maybe you missed the whole spiel about how people shouldn't have opinions, or not those opinions exactly about certain things because they're not really opinions, because they're ignorant and that they don't include certain caveats into their posts making it a proper opinion, or some such. 

To us, it's called harmless bantz.

As for it being 'weird', we all have our 'weird' online foibles or characteristics.  Deleting previous posts to keep your post-count down is one such weird thing, but, you know, fine, whatever.   

Wait. So what you're saying is that you agree with waygook.org user Mr.DeMartino that PB isn't very good. And, even though you literally agree with him, you're still trying to antagonize him?

You guys are weird.

Again, you're missing the point, purposefully as is your M.O., but nonetheless.   The point here is that DMArt is being a huge hypocrite, as one of his chief thorns in the side are people saying something that is popular in Korea is not good.  Whether one agrees with him or not about PB's quality is completely irrelevant.  DMart stridently denies people the right to make such comments and finds them to be  egotistical and self-centered.  But then he went ahead and made one and he was called out. Pretty simple to comprehend. 

Now, what's with someone deleting posts to keep their post count down?  Must've been on holiday and missed that.  What possible reason could there be for doing that?

Pretty standard of Waygook.org user #basedcowboyshirt to come in with his "notice me senpai" defence of DM lol.

Personal attacks are petty and inane in my opinion.

We're just pixels on a screen.

Let's focus on sharing information with more universal appeal.

Stuff that's pertinent to our lives in Korea.

Knowledge that could help us become better people.

Personal attacks are petty and inane in my opinion.

We're just pixels on a screen.

Let's focus on sharing information with more universal appeal.

Stuff that's pertinent to our lives in Korea.

Knowledge that could help us become better people.

Yeah I do agree, "be kind always" and all that, but people get tired of the endless nitpicking followed up by that hypocrisy.  You can't criticise stuff in Korea/but I can.  You can't recall your school days accurately/but I can.  It's all nonsense really but like Ronnie says, it's just banter isn't it?

1) Any of you have your opinion discounted because you're X-ethnicity-American? While also bemoaning Korean racism and the fact that no matter what, you're never "truly Korean"? And then also having called you a racist because of your political views? If you want to go after a hypocrite, why don't you go after that guy?
2) Again, there's a difference between complaining about Paris Baguette's specific menu items, while also highlighting the items you've enjoyed, vs. something like "All Korean bakeries suck and Koreans suck for eating at them". If you can't see the difference in that sort of criticism, then I don't know what to say.
3) Where did I ever demand that PB change their menu to suit me? Where did I ever insult people who consumed it? Where did I ever call it objectively awful? Where did I say ALL of it was garbage?  Did I ever express anger at people for consuming PB? Is there any linguistic or cultural requirement to buy a snack from PB?

) Any of you have your opinion discounted because you're X-ethnicity-American? While also bemoaning Korean racism and the fact that no matter what, you're never "truly Korean"? And then also having called you a racist because of your political views? If you want to go after a hypocrite, why don't you go after that guy

I've called that guy out many times.

You boys really did a number on Tino here. You have to admit Martin you walked right into that one. Gotta stay sharp, perhaps you are slipping in your old age. I've just come back from 2 months in Monte Carlo on Sonny's yacht. What a party animal. We took down a casino one night but I'll save that for another day.

1) Any of you have your opinion discounted because you're X-ethnicity-American? While also bemoaning Korean racism and the fact that no matter what, you're never "truly Korean"? And then also having called you a racist because of your political views? If you want to go after a hypocrite, why don't you go after that guy?
2) Again, there's a difference between complaining about Paris Baguette's specific menu items, while also highlighting the items you've enjoyed, vs. something like "All Korean bakeries suck and Koreans suck for eating at them". If you can't see the difference in that sort of criticism, then I don't know what to say.
3) Where did I ever demand that PB change their menu to suit me? Where did I ever insult people who consumed it? Where did I ever call it objectively awful? Where did I say ALL of it was garbage?  Did I ever express anger at people for consuming PB? Is there any linguistic or cultural requirement to buy a snack from PB?

In regards to # 2, did that get said anywhere?

#3 This a real What did I do/Who me?  check-list that needs to be kept in mind for future threads where DMart gets self-righteous. 

"All Korean bakeries suck and Koreans suck for eating at them"

Never been uttered or even hinted at by anyone hahahaha 

1) Any of you have your opinion discounted because you're X-ethnicity-American? While also bemoaning Korean racism and the fact that no matter what, you're never "truly Korean"? And then also having called you a racist because of your political views? If you want to go after a hypocrite, why don't you go after that guy?
2) Again, there's a difference between complaining about Paris Baguette's specific menu items, while also highlighting the items you've enjoyed, vs. something like "All Korean bakeries suck and Koreans suck for eating at them". If you can't see the difference in that sort of criticism, then I don't know what to say.
3) Where did I ever demand that PB change their menu to suit me? Where did I ever insult people who consumed it? Where did I ever call it objectively awful? Where did I say ALL of it was garbage?  Did I ever express anger at people for consuming PB? Is there any linguistic or cultural requirement to buy a snack from PB?

look, if you don't like paris baguette, don't go there. no one is forcing you to buy something there. millions of people obviously buy their products every day, so are you saying those people are idiots?

You boys really did a number on Tino here. You have to admit Martin you walked right into that one. Gotta stay sharp, perhaps you are slipping in your old age. I've just come back from 2 months in Monte Carlo on Sonny's yacht. What a party animal. We took down a casino one night but I'll save that for another day.

If their opinion is simply "The opposite of whatever Mr.D. says" and not what they actually believe, then they've already lost. That is called living in someone's head rent-free.

If I have to step off the pavement and into the road to avoid a collision with an oncoming person one more time...

If I have to step off the pavement and into the road to avoid a collision with an oncoming person one more time...

Anyang City Hall makes foreigners wear yellow stars on their arm.

If I have to step off the pavement and into the road to avoid a collision with an oncoming person one more time...

LOL!  I feel ya on that one....

It's one of those things that I genuinely don't remember happening in England.  I might be misremembering but I can't recall it happening every single day like it does here.  It makes me irrationally angry.

We're all the same.  We've all got front facing eyes and spatial awareness and all that, so I can't figure this one out.  When I see another person approaching, I've already prepared by moving over to the extreme edge of the pavement and shifted my body slightly sideways if necessary.  So why do I still have to step into the road to avoid a shoulder barge?  I can't get it straight in my mind!