RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

Oh I agree. I don't think they'd be studied together, they don't really belong in the same category. I'm just pointing out that even something traditionally considered lowbrow (like 50 Shades) has a place in academia.

Gunter Grass said: "Even bad books are books and therefore sacred."

Well yes, you can study virtually anything at US/UK university these days in one department or another but I don't think they're doing themselves any favours. The more accessible art they study the less people will see the need to go to university to study it IMO. 

Arguably, no one NEEDS to go to university to study art.

Nothing to really add to this discussion except that I couldn't get past page 80 of "50 Shades" because the female protagonist couldn't stop "flushing" every other sentence. I swear to gawd that if I ever find myself writing a paper on that book, I'll incorporate the verb "flush" in it as often as I can and discuss the various nuances that this word has brought to the story.

Nobody's mentioned the Da Vinci code (which sold more copies than 50 shades) Maybe before your time?

Arguably, no one NEEDS to go to university to study art.

True but if you're going to spend money on it you probably want the best minds you can afford discussing/teaching about the highest quality art.  And you probably want something that's going to challenge you a bit too.

Nobody's mentioned the Da Vinci code (which sold more copies than 50 shades) Maybe before your time?

Too erotic.

Just love this time of year.

It's fantastic to come to school during, what's about to be declared, an epidemic, and do nothing but play movies in a freezing cold classroom with NO AIRCON.

Just love this time of year.
It's fantastic to come to school during, what's about to be declared, an epidemic, and do nothing but play movies in a freezing cold classroom with NO AIRCON.

I'm not sure that 15 cases (all of which are currently in quarantine) of a disease that has a death rate of less than 3% (compared to bronchiolitis' 3%, and the flu's 6%) should be considered an epidemic.

Also, wanting to turn on the aircon at this time of year? You must really hate your kids! 

Watch movies....... Aircon........

Netflix and Chill?

Watch movies....... Aircon........

Netflix and Chill?

LOL, Never thought of that. At least they gave me a cheap mask to wear, so breathing in my warm breath is keeping my warm.
Oh... for extra fun, the projector just conked out, so no movies.

I'm not sure that 15 cases (all of which are currently in quarantine) of a disease that has a death rate of less than 3% (compared to bronchiolitis' 3%, and the flu's 6%) should be considered an epidemic.

Also, wanting to turn on the aircon at this time of year? You must really hate your kids! 

FYI, the flu has a mortality rate of 0.01%, it's impossible to have a decent estimate of the Coronavirus mortality rate as it hasn't really hit it's stride yet and is completely new.

Flu Seasonal R-0 rating of 1.2. (information from the WHO)
Coronavirus R-0 rating estimated at 4.08 (Chinese Academy of Sciences Institute, and I'd say there's a good chance the CCP has
downplayed these numbers, going by their nature and actions of the last 3 months). The WHO seems to be heavily downplaying the situation as well, thanks to there vested interests in China.

Chinese New Year started less than 2 weeks ago so we're still very much in the incubation period of what could potentially be the largest outbreak to date. The infected 14 are in quarantine, but what about the potential 4.08 they've infected and so on?

There's plenty of misinformation, fake news and a lack of facts about what's going on and I might very well be wrong, but nobody , including you, can be certain at this point.

Ultimately, if the school is making all students and teachers wear masks and I've been instructed to wipe down my keyboard and monitor with disinfectant, wouldn't it be a better idea to cancel school during the pointless few days during mid-vacation?

Yeah I agree that at the very least, students shouldn't be at school.  They're just watching movies so what's the point in risking it by being here?

From what people are saying it seems that the reaction to the virus is entirely down to your principal.  I'm amazed that there hasn't been any communication from the offices of education to the native teachers.  Unless they just communicated with the school directly. 

Yeah I agree that at the very least, students shouldn't be at school.  They're just watching movies so what's the point in risking it by being here?

From what people are saying it seems that the reaction to the virus is entirely down to your principal.  I'm amazed that there hasn't been any communication from the offices of education to the native teachers.  Unless they just communicated with the school directly. 

Indeed, remember, the CCP tried to keep the whole thing quiet for almost 2 months. There's no telling how many people abroad are infected.

Lets just say any of us working at a public school gets infected. I'm pretty healthy and strong, I'm confident I'll recover without issue, but I believe our contract states that if we're out of school for more than 10 working days (could be 11) in a row, when we should be, we're liable to have our contract terminated.

Haha yeah knowing our luck it won't be long until we see the first headline...Foreigner brings Coronavirus into school.  That won't help our reputation 

FYI, the flu has a mortality rate of 0.01%

Ah, you're right (although for the 2019/2020 season, it's actually at around 0.05% in the USA). I posted the mortality rate for those admitted into the hospital, I believe.

It's impossible to have a decent estimate of the Coronavirus mortality rate as it hasn't really hit it's stride yet and is completely new.

Also true, but that is the percentage derived from the information available to us at this point in time (20,000 infected, 426 dead as of Feb 3).

I'd say there's a good chance the CCP has
downplayed these numbers, going by their nature and actions of the last 3 months). The WHO seems to be heavily downplaying the situation as well, thanks to there vested interests in China.

You could be right: China definitely has a history of being a bit creative with its stats. Although considering that at present only one of the confirmed coronavirus infections outside of China has resulted in a death (in the Philippines, nominally a third world country), some of the fear mongering I've read seems pretty unlikely.

Chinese New Year started less than 2 weeks ago so we're still very much in the incubation period of what could potentially be the largest outbreak to date. The infected 14 are in quarantine, but what about the potential 4.08 they've infected and so on?

There's plenty of misinformation, fake news and a lack of facts about what's going on and I might very well be wrong, but nobody , including you, can be certain at this point.

Ultimately, if the school is making all students and teachers wear masks and I've been instructed to wipe down my keyboard and monitor with disinfectant, wouldn't it be a better idea to cancel school during the pointless few days during mid-vacation?

I wouldn't pretend to be certain about any of this kind of stuff, and I agree that aggressive countermeasures are the best response to a virus that could potentially be the next Spanish Flu (they're related).

I'm all for cancelling this pointless week of classes, Corona scare or no. 
Still, outside of China, the Coronavirus is definitely not an epidemic. The potential is there, but it's still only potential. Looking at the actual verifiable information currently available, I personally feel that the media is blowing things out of proportion. Be careful, and take sensible precautions, but I don't think the issue currently warrants shutting everything down. Hopefully I'll still think the same way in a week or two!

Coronavirus shuts down nearly 340 schools in S. Korea
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200203000896

Coronavirus shuts down nearly 340 schools in S. Korea
http://www.koreaherald.com/view.php?ud=20200203000896

Meanwhile, my boss is allowing kids to drink after themselves, does not enforce hand washing and has no sanitizer in the school......

Colleges delay spring semester on coronavirus fears
https://www.koreatimes.co.kr/www/nation/2020/02/119_282913.html

I'll be so ****** pissed off if they close schools at the beginning of the new semester. I only get paid if I actually work :(

Elementary third grade comes into class, all wearing those useless unfitted paper masks -- except the one dirtiest kid. And the teacher has her mask down over her nose for the whole class, so there's zero purpose for her to be wearing it at all, besides for show. Meanwhile, all during class the kids keep touching their faces and adjusting those stupid masks. CT says nothing, so I repeatedly warn the students, patiently but firmly, in Korean, to stop touching their faces; that's how they spread the germs. So, just as all the western health professionals on the news have warned, the ill-fitting masks are actually more dangerous than no mask.

After class, CT tells me we're having 회식 next week to say goodbye to the teachers who are leaving this year. I ask, "Isn't that dangerous right now?" We're pretty close to the most recently reported coronavirus case (who was allowed to wander around for weeks, showing symptoms, before someone had the ****** sense to test her). CT asks me, "If we have dinner, you don't want to come?" I said, "I think it's dangerous right now for everyone to share plates. Don't you think so?" She said, "Anyway, we'll talk about it."

I want to stay at this school. I'm happy here. But after 5 years in Korea, if this is what gets me shitcanned, then so be it.