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  • oglop
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11100 on: December 27, 2019, 03:22:00 pm »
went to the MG insurance place today. ALL i wanted was to set up a direct debit (so i don't have to manually pay into it every month), figuring it would take maybe 3 minutes

i had to:
- delete my entire account with them and sign up again
- write/sign my name over 20 times (lost count at around 20)
- write my address over 7 times
- go back and forth to the ATM (for some reason they would only give/take cash)
- talk on the phone for 20 minutes, despite being in the actual MG branch
- the process took around 2.5 hours

wtf korea... why is ANY of this necessary? and all for the simplest of requests..


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11101 on: December 28, 2019, 03:35:12 pm »
"dealing with the japanese" and acting like an adult aren't mutually exclusive
Just because YOU think it's a trivial issue doesn't mean it is one. We have a multitude of various boycott novements going on around the world, some on far more trivial issues thsn the admittedly politically roused issue of wartime sexual slavery.

In 2015, Japan paid 1 billion and again apologized to South Korea in exchange for a promise for the issue never to be brought up again. Seems like it should be settled. But what if later some decide they want more money and more apologies? People have to keep giving money and apologies for something that happened long before they were born for the rest of eternity?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11102 on: December 28, 2019, 04:34:54 pm »
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In 2015, Japan paid 1 billion and again apologized to South Korea in exchange for a promise for the issue never to be brought up again. Seems like it should be settled. But what if later some decide they want more money and more apologies? People have to keep giving money and apologies for something that happened long before they were born for the rest of eternity?

Agreed.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11103 on: December 29, 2019, 01:20:05 pm »
That's the nature of hush money.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11104 on: December 30, 2019, 02:24:48 am »
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People have to keep giving money and apologies for something that happened long before they were born for the rest of eternity?

Germany does it well, why can't the Japanese do it?
incumbo studiis


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    • September 30, 2012, 06:56:11 am
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11105 on: December 30, 2019, 07:35:43 am »
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People have to keep giving money and apologies for something that happened long before they were born for the rest of eternity?

Germany does it well, why can't the Japanese do it?
You hear this a lot. What people fail to understand is that what Germany has done post war is more or less unprecedented in human history. It is not common for the vanquished to repeatedly fall on their sword publicly offering these mea culpas at every turn. Japan isn't Germany. Surely you've lived in Korea long enough to understand that guilt, especially admission of guilt, remorse, forgiveness are seen in a completely different light in this part of the world. Also the denaizification process in Germany was far more thorough then what the Americans did in Japan. You can't leave large portions of the state apparatus in place and expect it to self correct itself completely.

The fact that Japan hasn't aggressively rearmed, has gone out of its way to be a model global citizen, has kept it's pacifist constitution and has by and large refrained from openly glorifying it's actions during its imperial phase, would be good enough in 99% of situations. But then Germany had to come along and perfect the "we were terrible people, we did terrible things, there is no excuse for it" show (and i don't mean that in a pejorative sense at all) and made Japan look like remorseless animals.

I'm well aware 50,000 American military being stationed in Japan since occupation ended has been a big motivating factor for Japan not to act like pricks again, but the fact remains.

Kpip! - Martin 2018


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11106 on: December 30, 2019, 07:55:35 am »
You hear this a lot. What people fail to understand is that what Germany has done post war is more or less unprecedented in human history. It is not common for the vanquished to repeatedly fall on their sword publicly offering these mea culpas at every turn. Japan isn't Germany. Surely you've lived in Korea long enough to understand that guilt, especially admission of guilt, remorse, forgiveness are seen in a completely different light in this part of the world. Also the denaizification process in Germany was far more thorough then what the Americans did in Japan. You can't leave large portions of the state apparatus in place and expect it to self correct itself completely.

The fact that Japan hasn't aggressively rearmed, has gone out of its way to be a model global citizen, has kept it's pacifist constitution and has by and large refrained from openly glorifying it's actions during its imperial phase, would be good enough in 99% of situations. But then Germany had to come along and perfect the "we were terrible people, we did terrible things, there is no excuse for it" show (and i don't mean that in a pejorative sense at all) and made Japan look like remorseless animals.

I'm well aware 50,000 American military being stationed in Japan since occupation ended has been a big motivating factor for Japan not to act like pricks again, but the fact remains.

    Some good points.
    But I'd like to point out that while some people might consider Germany's contrition to be excessive, the sincere abhorrence of their own past has allowed Germany to reemerge as one of the preeminent nations - economically as well as culturally - in their area.   Germany's contrition has essentially allowed them to orchestrate an economic Blitzkrieg of all their neighbours... with Europe's blessing. Japan was by far the most powerful post-war Asian economy, and it was only the deep mistrust and dislike by... well... everyone that prevented them from leveraging that huge advantage to a powerful tool for regional dominance.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11107 on: December 30, 2019, 08:00:48 am »
Again, I absolutely in no way feel Germany's  contrition excessive, at all. It's just they have done it so well that they will forever be the yard by which others are measured. Many would not be able to live up to that.
And I agree Japan would have done themselves a lot of favors, had they apologized more thoroughly and sincerely.
Kpip! - Martin 2018


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11108 on: December 31, 2019, 11:56:50 am »
has anyone seen the korean tv show 구해줘 홈츠? it's a show about some celebrities going to these "nice" apartments and showing of where you can live. the apartments are usually garish or tiny or with a shit layout. the celebrities do that weird over-acting thing where they act like they've just won the lottery, when all they are doing is going into a cramped, undecorated bedroom.

"WOOOOOOW! look it has a tiny rooftop area!!!" -> cuts to studio with more celebrities. "OH MY GOD LOOK AT THAT IT'S A TINY USELESS ROOFTOP AREA" -> insert canned cheering sounds and lots of onscreen text

then it shows the price: one billion, trillion, gazillion won



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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11109 on: December 31, 2019, 12:00:27 pm »
i just hate all korean tv. not sure if i've mentioned that before


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11110 on: December 31, 2019, 12:48:49 pm »
has anyone seen the korean tv show 구해줘 홈츠? it's a show about some celebrities going to these "nice" apartments and showing of where you can live. the apartments are usually garish or tiny or with a shit layout. the celebrities do that weird over-acting thing where they act like they've just won the lottery, when all they are doing is going into a cramped, undecorated bedroom.

"WOOOOOOW! look it has a tiny rooftop area!!!" -> cuts to studio with more celebrities. "OH MY GOD LOOK AT THAT IT'S A TINY USELESS ROOFTOP AREA" -> insert canned cheering sounds and lots of onscreen text

then it shows the price: one billion, trillion, gazillion won


You mean a Seoul version of MTV's 'Cribs' only in a place where rent is sky high due to population density and lack of arable land?


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11111 on: December 31, 2019, 12:52:32 pm »
as with any TV/reality tv show....they are all scripted to make them interesting and I do not understand Korean humor/entertainment at all. I don't like reality tv in general, no matter what country, but I do tend to like travel/food/cooking shows. I think the US equivalent of that show it House Hunters on HGTV, minus the celebrities.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11112 on: December 31, 2019, 02:10:14 pm »
has anyone seen the korean tv show 구해줘 홈츠? it's a show about some celebrities going to these "nice" apartments and showing of where you can live. the apartments are usually garish or tiny or with a shit layout. the celebrities do that weird over-acting thing where they act like they've just won the lottery, when all they are doing is going into a cramped, undecorated bedroom.

"WOOOOOOW! look it has a tiny rooftop area!!!" -> cuts to studio with more celebrities. "OH MY GOD LOOK AT THAT IT'S A TINY USELESS ROOFTOP AREA" -> insert canned cheering sounds and lots of onscreen text

then it shows the price: one billion, trillion, gazillion won


You mean a Seoul version of MTV's 'Cribs' only in a place where rent is sky high due to population density and lack of arable land?
i don't know what cribs is, but they also show places outside of seoul. if they show really amazing houses or unique, quirky places, then cool. or if they helped actual couples/families find their "ideal" home. but they seem to show nothing but celebrities, who do nowt but look through these bog-standard apartments. but it's the weird fake reactions that annoys me most tbh


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  • The Legend

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    • March 05, 2019, 06:36:13 pm
    • seoul
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11113 on: December 31, 2019, 03:46:39 pm »
Sounds like the total opposite of escape to the sun where you see ordinary British couples turn their noses up at amazingly cheap places with swimming pools in Spain. Just watched an episode where they were looking at places for 300 grand in Cosra Rica. 'Yeah, we like the 6 acress of land, 3 en suite double bedrooms and open plan dining/living area the size of a church hall but the 4th bedroom's a bit on the small side and the pool's the wrong shape ' etc..


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11114 on: December 31, 2019, 04:07:42 pm »
Sounds like the total opposite of escape to the sun where you see ordinary British couples turn their noses up at amazingly cheap places with swimming pools in Spain. Just watched an episode where they were looking at places for 300 grand in Cosra Rica. 'Yeah, we like the 6 acress of land, 3 en suite double bedrooms and open plan dining/living area the size of a church hall but the 4th bedroom's a bit on the small side and the pool's the wrong shape ' etc..

Haha yeah, totally agree.

Location, Location, Location is a guilty pleasure of mine.  I can't get enough of it but I get so wound up at people who refuse amazing houses based on things that can easily be changed. 


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    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11115 on: December 31, 2019, 04:58:08 pm »
Sounds like the total opposite of escape to the sun where you see ordinary British couples turn their noses up at amazingly cheap places with swimming pools in Spain. Just watched an episode where they were looking at places for 300 grand in Cosra Rica. 'Yeah, we like the 6 acress of land, 3 en suite double bedrooms and open plan dining/living area the size of a church hall but the 4th bedroom's a bit on the small side and the pool's the wrong shape ' etc..
yeah i find this mental too. same when they go to australia (on a similar programme). "oh, we felt homesick". ok, give up your huge house with outdoor swimming pool and wages that were double, and go back to your small attached house in birmingham


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11116 on: December 31, 2019, 07:44:19 pm »
has anyone seen the korean tv show 구해줘 홈츠? it's a show about some celebrities going to these "nice" apartments and showing of where you can live. the apartments are usually garish or tiny or with a shit layout. the celebrities do that weird over-acting thing where they act like they've just won the lottery, when all they are doing is going into a cramped, undecorated bedroom.

"WOOOOOOW! look it has a tiny rooftop area!!!" -> cuts to studio with more celebrities. "OH MY GOD LOOK AT THAT IT'S A TINY USELESS ROOFTOP AREA" -> insert canned cheering sounds and lots of onscreen text

then it shows the price: one billion, trillion, gazillion won


You mean a Seoul version of MTV's 'Cribs' only in a place where rent is sky high due to population density and lack of arable land?
i don't know what cribs is, but they also show places outside of seoul. if they show really amazing houses or unique, quirky places, then cool. or if they helped actual couples/families find their "ideal" home. but they seem to show nothing but celebrities, who do nowt but look through these bog-standard apartments. but it's the weird fake reactions that annoys me most tbh

Koreans do the over-acting t hing in various situations....I find it annoying as well.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11117 on: January 01, 2020, 12:02:42 am »
has anyone seen the korean tv show 구해줘 홈츠? it's a show about some celebrities going to these "nice" apartments and showing of where you can live. the apartments are usually garish or tiny or with a shit layout. the celebrities do that weird over-acting thing where they act like they've just won the lottery, when all they are doing is going into a cramped, undecorated bedroom.

"WOOOOOOW! look it has a tiny rooftop area!!!" -> cuts to studio with more celebrities. "OH MY GOD LOOK AT THAT IT'S A TINY USELESS ROOFTOP AREA" -> insert canned cheering sounds and lots of onscreen text

then it shows the price: one billion, trillion, gazillion won



Yeah, I'm going to trust my money to a bunch of comedians who know nothing about property, interior design and location..

Some of their choices are just garish.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11118 on: January 03, 2020, 01:07:20 pm »
UGH. Today is graduation and all the students left at about 11:30.  2 of my co-teachers randomly told me yesterday that I could leave early today after lunch. Cue today when one asks if I'd put it into Neis....so basically they were informing me that I was "allowed" to use part of my vacations days to leave early on a day with no students...

I was really looking forward to leaving early.  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #11119 on: January 03, 2020, 02:54:09 pm »
UGH. Today is graduation and all the students left at about 11:30.  2 of my co-teachers randomly told me yesterday that I could leave early today after lunch. Cue today when one asks if I'd put it into Neis....so basically they were informing me that I was "allowed" to use part of my vacations days to leave early on a day with no students...

I was really looking forward to leaving early.  :cry: :cry: :cry: :cry:

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