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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10960 on: November 26, 2019, 11:51:34 am »
And I can't cancel it without contacting the seller, and they are a nightmare to try get a hold of; they also flagged it as having been shipped after the first week. >.<

I was under the impression you can use the Gmarket customer service to contact the seller and then if there is no reply back from the seller to Gmarket, you can cancel it through them. 

This. Some sellers will set it as having been shipped already even if the item hasn't actually shipped because they're trying to prevent you from canceling the order while they wait on other customers to order the same thing (that way they can save on shipping costs to themselves by ordering in bulk). You can get around this by contacting Gmarket's customer service about it. They'll try to contact the seller and will give you an estimated time to wait. If you don't here back from either the seller or Gmarket by that time, you can follow up with Gmarket and get them to cancel the order.

They have an option where you can email or PM them through the site. It's how I did it both times I needed to.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10961 on: November 26, 2019, 11:58:40 am »
And I can't cancel it without contacting the seller, and they are a nightmare to try get a hold of; they also flagged it as having been shipped after the first week. >.<

I was under the impression you can use the Gmarket customer service to contact the seller and then if there is no reply back from the seller to Gmarket, you can cancel it through them. 

Coupang and Gmarket sellers pull this same stunt.
Once the seller has marked the item as 'pending' or 'in transit' (can't remember which one), it's impossible to cancel the order on your end without contacting the seller who, surprise, will never reply. You're stuck.
You'll likely get the item, but what the seller is probably doing is waiting for enough orders for said item so they can bulk buy from wherever and make a larger profit... or, they order the item from overseas (like an unnecessary middle-man)
and select the cheapest and slowest shipping option to maximise their profit.

Make sure you order from a seller who lists an ETA and DO NOT order from sellers who list international shipping... you might as well buy from Amazon or Ebay.



Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10962 on: November 26, 2019, 12:12:29 pm »
And I can't cancel it without contacting the seller, and they are a nightmare to try get a hold of; they also flagged it as having been shipped after the first week. >.<

I was under the impression you can use the Gmarket customer service to contact the seller and then if there is no reply back from the seller to Gmarket, you can cancel it through them. 

Coupang and Gmarket sellers pull this same stunt.
Once the seller has marked the item as 'pending' or 'in transit' (can't remember which one), it's impossible to cancel the order on your end without contacting the seller who, surprise, will never reply. You're stuck.
You'll likely get the item, but what the seller is probably doing is waiting for enough orders for said item so they can bulk buy from wherever and make a larger profit... or, they order the item from overseas (like an unnecessary middle-man)
and select the cheapest and slowest shipping option to maximise their profit.

It's likely like that.  In July, I ordered a dining table and chairs that were domestic shipping and they did the 'in transit' thing.  After two weeks, I went through the customer service who contacted the seller who said they were uncertain about the date.  I waited a little longer but found a different table set.  I guess different sellers may not be so easy about canceling.  But I found the Gmarket customer service to be fairly good with contacting and also cancelling.  I suppose going through them would give you a level of protection too. 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10963 on: November 26, 2019, 12:19:04 pm »
And I can't cancel it without contacting the seller, and they are a nightmare to try get a hold of; they also flagged it as having been shipped after the first week. >.<

I was under the impression you can use the Gmarket customer service to contact the seller and then if there is no reply back from the seller to Gmarket, you can cancel it through them. 

This. Some sellers will set it as having been shipped already even if the item hasn't actually shipped because they're trying to prevent you from canceling the order while they wait on other customers to order the same thing (that way they can save on shipping costs to themselves by ordering in bulk). You can get around this by contacting Gmarket's customer service about it. They'll try to contact the seller and will give you an estimated time to wait. If you don't here back from either the seller or Gmarket by that time, you can follow up with Gmarket and get them to cancel the order.

They have an option where you can email or PM them through the site. It's how I did it both times I needed to.

When I tried to pm the seller through the site, I was getting errors but, this morning I pm'd gmarket customer service because of this.
Depending on how the seller responds, I might see if they can cancel it so I can order it from someone/where else, and try get it a lot sooner.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10964 on: November 26, 2019, 12:48:58 pm »
We need more shame in this country. I don't like the aspect of face.

They're kids, you don't put em on TV, obviously, but you drag them up to the front and you embarrass them.

I don't mean gratuitously, I mean directly. "Are you 4? Is this kindergarten? My 3 year old cleans up her mess at home, can't you do the same?"


We need more shame.  The amount of resigned "그만" and "하지마" here drive me nuts.  And then the teacher just cleans up the mess for them! We're not their mother. Shame the shit out of some of these kids. If they cry, I don't give a shit. Stop yelling, stop running around like an idiot and clean up your bloody mess. This isn't revolutionary.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10965 on: November 27, 2019, 08:07:06 am »
Stop yelling, stop running around like an idiot and clean up your bloody mess. This isn't revolutionary.

I was talking about this with the 1st-grade headteacher last week when we were in Boseong with the students.  We were staying in a lovely Hanok house with all the students, and mainly we, the teachers, were cooking and the students were eating.  Only two students helped out with the washing up after or any tidying.  The rest of the students sat around eating, chatting or using their phones.  I love my students very much, but like your comment, it gives you a view of what they have from their home life.  I know they're high school students and as such don't have a lot of free time, but still.  The one student who always helped, their parents came to the provincial contest with heaters, hot chocolate, and blankets for the students because we played two games three hours apart, and a day before a typhoon so it was pissing down.  Obviously, this student has lovely selfless parents, and that's rubbed off on them.   :undecided:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10966 on: November 27, 2019, 08:30:39 am »
Stop yelling, stop running around like an idiot and clean up your bloody mess. This isn't revolutionary.

I was talking about this with the 1st-grade headteacher last week when we were in Boseong with the students.  We were staying in a lovely Hanok house with all the students, and mainly we, the teachers, were cooking and the students were eating.  Only two students helped out with the washing up after or any tidying.  The rest of the students sat around eating, chatting or using their phones.  I love my students very much, but like your comment, it gives you a view of what they have from their home life.  I know they're high school students and as such don't have a lot of free time, but still.  The one student who always helped, their parents came to the provincial contest with heaters, hot chocolate, and blankets for the students because we played two games three hours apart, and a day before a typhoon so it was pissing down.  Obviously, this student has lovely selfless parents, and that's rubbed off on them.   :undecided:

Yeah, a lot of my own students are super entitled and spoiled. Good kids deep down, but they have a lot of ideas about what they shouldn't have to do, thanks to their parents, lol. They feel it's every adult's duty to clean up after them, even if the adults aren't their parents. And then they become adults who think the same way, but it's harder for them to get away with it.

I force every single student to help, and I always get a ton who drag their feet, give me looks, and try to get away with doing a piss poor job because they don't think they should have to help. They think it's my job to do it for them, lol.

Nope. If you made the mess or ate the food, you're going to clean up after yourself. If you don't do it right the first time, I'm going to make you go back and do it again until you do it right. This includes clearing the tables, throwing away the garbage, and washing your own dishes. I'm here to teach and to keep you safe while you're with me.  I don't get paid to be your nanny.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10967 on: November 27, 2019, 08:46:04 am »
I don't get paid to be your nanny.

I always remind the students of this if they're being dicks. "I'm not your mom." I don't love you and it's not my job to take care of you. I will respect you if it's mutual and I'm here to teach you English. That's it. 


 :police: Put that in the garbage.

 :shocked: *shoves garbage into desk*

 :police: Like, wtf are you doing?
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10968 on: November 27, 2019, 08:59:29 am »
I don't get paid to be your nanny.

I always remind the students of this if they're being dicks. "I'm not your mom." I don't love you and it's not my job to take care of you. I will respect you if it's mutual and I'm here to teach you English. That's it. 


 :police: Put that in the garbage.

 :shocked: *shoves garbage into desk*

 :police: Like, wtf are you doing?

Gawd, this brings back memories of an old school. The desks in the English room were STUFFED with garbage from over the years. Absolutely compacted in. You wouldn't think it would be possible to stuff more garbage in, but students apparently managed it, or they tried pretty damn hard.

First thing I did was to get a cleaning crew assembled from students who were being disciplined, and I made them dig that shit out. And they literally had to dig. Everything they managed to get out filled three large garbage bags.

I have no ****** idea why the KTs in charge of the room before me allowed the kids to get away with that bullshit, but nah, you can't trust these kids to their own devices and expect them to do the honorable thing. While some will because they're being raised right and don't have their bad behaviors excused away with "they're kids" or "they have to study a lot", a ton won't.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10969 on: November 27, 2019, 09:11:21 am »
why, in the freshest of hells, do schools insist on buying those desks with drawers under them?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10970 on: November 27, 2019, 09:35:21 am »
My biggest problem are kids who act like they don't know that what they're doing is wrong. No matter how much you try to convince me, shrugging your shoulders and saying "I didn't know (that stuffing garbage in the desk/punching my friend in the chest/saying WHATTHEPUCKYOU) is wrong" just makes you look more stupid.

Own up to it and I'll give way much more respect. You can't convince me that you don't know what a friggin garbage can is. Not at the age of Grade 3 and higher.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10971 on: November 27, 2019, 09:39:32 am »
My biggest problem are kids who act like they don't know that what they're doing is wrong. No matter how much you try to convince me, shrugging your shoulders and saying "I didn't know (that stuffing garbage in the desk/punching my friend in the chest/saying WHATTHEPUCKYOU) is wrong" just makes you look more stupid.

Own up to it and I'll give way much more respect. You can't convince me that you don't know what a friggin garbage can is. Not at the age of Grade 3 and higher.

2 possible reasons I've hypothesized:

1 - In Confucianism, there's no honor in admitting one's mistake and apologizing is the lowest thing you can do.

2 - The truly have not been taught a damn thing at home.

I can't decide which is more disturbing.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10972 on: November 27, 2019, 10:15:43 am »
My biggest problem are kids who act like they don't know that what they're doing is wrong. No matter how much you try to convince me, shrugging your shoulders and saying "I didn't know (that stuffing garbage in the desk/punching my friend in the chest/saying WHATTHEPUCKYOU) is wrong" just makes you look more stupid.

Own up to it and I'll give way much more respect. You can't convince me that you don't know what a friggin garbage can is. Not at the age of Grade 3 and higher.
they probably get away with it at home, perhaps even with their homeroom teachers. i mean, do adults here ever own up to something? i've always been told admitting you're wrong or made a mistake is a sign of weakness. imagine that


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10973 on: November 27, 2019, 10:51:40 am »
Confucius himself said "A man who has committed a mistake and doesn't correct it is committing another mistake," so I'm not sure not apologizing or admitting to a mistake could genuinely be called a product of Confucianism.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10974 on: November 27, 2019, 11:09:27 am »
Confucius himself said "A man who has committed a mistake and doesn't correct it is committing another mistake," so I'm not sure not apologizing or admitting to a mistake could genuinely be called a product of Confucianism.
K-onfucianism is different.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10975 on: November 27, 2019, 11:12:12 am »
Confucius himself said "A man who has committed a mistake and doesn't correct it is committing another mistake," so I'm not sure not apologizing or admitting to a mistake could genuinely be called a product of Confucianism.
K-onfucianism is different.

K-On-Fucianism? Sign me up!



Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10976 on: November 27, 2019, 11:31:54 am »


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10977 on: November 27, 2019, 11:33:33 am »
To my girlfriend's great credit, she can be pretty hard on her kid. Daughter is 4.

She's essentially a single mom, for practical purposes. I'm in Anyang, she's in Cheonan, so I'm not there all the time and I'm not in parenting role yet. If she don't discipline the kid at this stage, no one will. My GF lays out clear behavioural things that she expects from the kid. (They're fair, in case anyone is concerned, she's not making crazy strict rules)

Touch the TV? Punished. There is no reason for anyone to touch a TV screen with their fingers. So don't do it.

Sit at the table and not eat your food? That's a scolding. (Kid can go 6 or 7 mins without eating and just talk and talk , while mom and I are finished our food)

I really, really hope this is gonna stick. She's a good kid and I think that that is DUE to the fact that she is disciplined rather strongly. Kids need guidance and they need to be averse to doing things that they are punished for. This is Behaviour 101, like I said in a post prior, this isn't revolutionary thinking. It's pretty damn basic.

If a kid touches the TV screen (ESPECIALLY on a flatscreen, those old tube ones, it wasn't so important, but now? Delicate as HELL) it's not good enough to throw your head back and say, "Oh, Dain. What a character! She shouldn't be doing that. Should you, Dain?"

NO. Cut that shit out.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10978 on: November 29, 2019, 06:28:07 am »
Why don't people cover their mouths when they cough here? I mean...it's like the most basic of manners: don't cough in someone's face. Must happen to me at least once a week on the subway


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10979 on: November 29, 2019, 07:45:12 am »
Why don't people cover their mouths when they cough here? I mean...it's like the most basic of manners: don't cough in someone's face. Must happen to me at least once a week on the subway

Yeah, I don't get this. It's super gross.

And again, dead-to-the-point-of-decomposing-horse, but why do so many people not wash their hands?