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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10820 on: October 29, 2019, 01:48:59 pm »
Everything is a trade off. Back home I can get a pizza made just the way I want it. I'm also getting that factored into costs and order time and the odds that my food will arrive messed up.

Then why is pizza so expensive here? hahahaha
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10821 on: October 29, 2019, 02:21:25 pm »
so many kids don't even arrive with a pencil. this would never be acceptable in england (at least, when i was at school). like, what are you doing, kid?

"OHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH, do I need a pencil in a 40 minute class that covers WRITING? My mom didn't tell me this morning if I needed a pencil for school and she didn't tape it to my hand."

*flips table*
well, i have one friend who majored in young learners (kindy age) and he worked in the US teaching kindy. he says he was quite culture shocked coming to korea teaching kindy, as they seemed wayyyy behind (behaviour, doing things for themselves) than the US kids.

same goes for elementary too. teachers treat kids like babies and let them get away with a lot. kids themselves act like babies. my little cousin of elementary age seems x100000 times more mature than any korean kid of that age i ever taught. pretty crazy the difference

I have a grade 1 middle school student, who still acts like a 5 - 6 year old. He's a good kid, but very unmotivated, and whenever ANYTHING doesn't go his way, he will almost go into a full 5 year old like tantrum.
Last week, I got some chocolates from back home, and planned to share them with everyone. For the students, I told them, they had to be good during class for me to share with them.
He was not good, but still begged for chocolate. I said no, and queue the waterworks. Head teacher came and asked what happened, I explained, and he basically said tough luck to the student in Korean haha.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10822 on: October 29, 2019, 02:25:09 pm »
Wrong...they must won't make it.  Why?  Because their head office won't allow them....but they can make a combination, and a 1/2 and 1/2....but no simple cheese pizza. 

At other places, like Pizza School, one cannot get what they want either...and, it can be done on their POS.
You are intimately familiar with the head office policy of EMart pizza as well as the POS system that is used at Pizza School?

As I said, there's probably a miscommunication involved. I'm assuming in your conversation with whatever ajumma or disinterested 19 year old was running the EMart Pizza stand, did not involve an in-depth discussion of head office policies in fluent Korean. Did you actually try ordering a combination MINUS all the toppings? Or did you just keep on saying "Cheese Pizza!" and then getting angry and frustrated?


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10823 on: October 29, 2019, 02:27:49 pm »
Then why is pizza so expensive here? hahahaha
You also have to factor in food cost and other stuff. Plus South Korea being essentially an island trade-wise. Pizza school is cheap here. Like Little Queaser's. There's some middle priced places like Pizza Maru and Pizza Heaven. Then you got the rip-off that is Papa John's.

Also a lot of the rip-off places aren't as expensive if you follow their promotions and such. If you aren't averaging 6-8000 won off of your order, you're doing it wrong.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10824 on: October 29, 2019, 02:45:01 pm »
At other places, like Pizza School, one cannot get what they want either...and, it can be done on their POS.
You are intimately familiar with the head office policy of EMart pizza as well as the POS system that is used at Pizza School?

I've never worked at a fast food restaurant, however, I'm starting to pick up contextual clues that are telling me that POS does not actually stand for "piece of sh!t" in this particular discussion...  :lipsrsealed:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10825 on: October 29, 2019, 03:13:42 pm »
At other places, like Pizza School, one cannot get what they want either...and, it can be done on their POS.
You are intimately familiar with the head office policy of EMart pizza as well as the POS system that is used at Pizza School?

I've never worked at a fast food restaurant, however, I'm starting to pick up contextual clues that are telling me that POS does not actually stand for "piece of sh!t" in this particular discussion...  :lipsrsealed:

its the thing waiters put orders into. i dont know what it stands for. you see, i was just a food runner, so i didn't interact with the POS. the chef was definitely a different kind of POS though


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10826 on: October 29, 2019, 03:19:03 pm »
Wanton Cash Handouts Are Making Everyone Poorer

The central and provincial governments have doled out W42 trillion in cash to senior citizens, young mothers and young jobseekers, more than doubling in just two years.

http://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2019/10/28/2019102801312.html

Welfare spending will increase 35.4 percent in next year's fiscal budget.

__________________________________________________________________________________________

A good point of Korea was low welfare / low taxes.

Now, welfare - and the requisite taxes to fund that - are going up.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10827 on: October 29, 2019, 03:21:11 pm »
its the thing waiters put orders into. i dont know what it stands for. you see, i was just a food runner, so i didn't interact with the POS. the chef was definitely a different kind of POS though

Point of Sale, FYI.

Also, is anyone having an issue clicking on links when they load the page?
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10828 on: October 29, 2019, 03:23:57 pm »
Then why is pizza so expensive here? hahahaha
You also have to factor in food cost and other stuff. Plus South Korea being essentially an island trade-wise. Pizza school is cheap here. Like Little Queaser's. There's some middle priced places like Pizza Maru and Pizza Heaven. Then you got the rip-off that is Papa John's.

Also a lot of the rip-off places aren't as expensive if you follow their promotions and such. If you aren't averaging 6-8000 won off of your order, you're doing it wrong.

Flour, salt, tomato sauce, cheese. Various meats and frozen veges. Hardly ingredients from the Amazon that require importation. I'd say almost all of it is sourced locally or some even cheaper Chinese stuff.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10829 on: October 29, 2019, 03:33:24 pm »
koreans just love getting mugged off


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10830 on: October 29, 2019, 04:31:38 pm »
koreans just love getting mugged off

Best I saw was in Yongsan E-Mart in the organic section a few years back.  A normal-sized pack of organic butter for 48 000 won. 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10831 on: October 29, 2019, 07:47:10 pm »
Wrong...they must won't make it.  Why?  Because their head office won't allow them....but they can make a combination, and a 1/2 and 1/2....but no simple cheese pizza. 

At other places, like Pizza School, one cannot get what they want either...and, it can be done on their POS.
You are intimately familiar with the head office policy of EMart pizza as well as the POS system that is used at Pizza School?

As I said, there's probably a miscommunication involved. I'm assuming in your conversation with whatever ajumma or disinterested 19 year old was running the EMart Pizza stand, did not involve an in-depth discussion of head office policies in fluent Korean. Did you actually try ordering a combination MINUS all the toppings? Or did you just keep on saying "Cheese Pizza!" and then getting angry and frustrated?

Nope..no miscommunication involved. 

Someone who spoke English came over and told me that despite it takes less work to make a cheese pizza and being able to ring it, up, head office said they can't and won't. 

Care to continue?



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10832 on: October 30, 2019, 09:11:16 am »
Wrong...they must won't make it.  Why?  Because their head office won't allow them....but they can make a combination, and a 1/2 and 1/2....but no simple cheese pizza. 

At other places, like Pizza School, one cannot get what they want either...and, it can be done on their POS.
You are intimately familiar with the head office policy of EMart pizza as well as the POS system that is used at Pizza School?

As I said, there's probably a miscommunication involved. I'm assuming in your conversation with whatever ajumma or disinterested 19 year old was running the EMart Pizza stand, did not involve an in-depth discussion of head office policies in fluent Korean. Did you actually try ordering a combination MINUS all the toppings? Or did you just keep on saying "Cheese Pizza!" and then getting angry and frustrated?

Nope..no miscommunication involved. 

Someone who spoke English came over and told me that despite it takes less work to make a cheese pizza and being able to ring it, up, head office said they can't and won't. 

Care to continue?

Maybe they did it to spite you? They didn't like the cut of your jib. Maybe they did it for laughs.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10833 on: October 30, 2019, 09:51:53 am »
Nope..no miscommunication involved. 

Someone who spoke English came over and told me that despite it takes less work to make a cheese pizza and being able to ring it, up, head office said they can't and won't. 

Let me get this straight, despite you not getting your cheese pizza and leaving to get something else and just ordering pizza from home OR GIVING UP, ORDERING A COMBINATION, AND CONTINUING YOUR SHOPPING you stay around there long enough for some Korean person to come over, ask the person about the whole cheese pizza thing and then report this to you?

All while you ADDITIONALLY have knowledge of Pizza School's POS system?

Also "despite it takes less work to make a cheese pizza and being able to ring it, up, head office said they can't and won't." doesn't sound like how a Korean person would talk and say this. In the spirit of Dave Chappelle, "that sounds like something that YOU would say"

Anyways, likely grossly exaggerated story aside, I will concede that it IS possible that the EMart store might have that policy. And that is this- The EMart pizza places are not standard pizza places. They typically offer what, 3 kinds of pizzas? And they churn them out constantly. They might just have a blanket policy of ZERO customization in any form for anyone. Likely because you let one person do it, then everyone can do it and that isn't a good system for what their model is, which is basically a 3-choice "Model T in any color, as long as it's black" assembly line. If you can't your own toppings, wings, soda, cheese crust, garlic butter sides, and so on and so on, go to Mr. Pizza and pay more.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10834 on: October 30, 2019, 10:05:25 am »
Maybe they did it to spite you? They didn't like the cut of your jib. Maybe they did it for laughs.
This is always possible. They picked up on the hater vibe and decided to not put up with him.

Flour, salt, tomato sauce, cheese. Various meats and frozen veges. Hardly ingredients from the Amazon that require importation. I'd say almost all of it is sourced locally or some even cheaper Chinese stuff.
In terms of population relative to arable land, Korea is one of the worst large-sized countries in the world.  That is going to increase costs, especially for something like cheese, which isn't at the same level of demand and requires livestock. Cheese is almost always the #1 foodcost part of a pizza. The price fluctuates significantly and at times can really get out of hand. After that comes the meats and the spice pack that goes into the sauce. Pizza place vegetables are seldom frozen unless you're talking some scuzzy pub's pizza. Plus, you get one outbreak of foot and mouth or something running through the country and if you only used domestic meat,the price would spike.

By it's very nature, Korea is always going to be somewhat expensive for food, especially food that isn't traditionally Korean. You need to get at a truly massive scale like McDonald's (and even then it's a little more expensive here) to get that low.

The other big costs would be energy, specifically refrigeration, which is more expensive than North America. However, for these smaller places, many of which don't seem to have walk-in refrigerator's, that might not be the case. And thanks to Moon Jae-In, now labor is a factor, although not THAT significantly for many pizza places because most smaller ones or Pizza Schools appear to be family-owned and operated (aside from a Domino's or Mr. Pizza) with maybe one local kid they hire.

Now you can still get a pretty cheap pizza here- Pizza School being comparable to Little Caesar's. But then again, they did have that "plastic cheese" fiasco a few year's back and they don't exactly lather on the pepperoni.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10835 on: October 30, 2019, 10:17:35 am »
Wrong...they must won't make it.  Why?  Because their head office won't allow them....but they can make a combination, and a 1/2 and 1/2....but no simple cheese pizza. 

At other places, like Pizza School, one cannot get what they want either...and, it can be done on their POS.
You are intimately familiar with the head office policy of EMart pizza as well as the POS system that is used at Pizza School?

As I said, there's probably a miscommunication involved. I'm assuming in your conversation with whatever ajumma or disinterested 19 year old was running the EMart Pizza stand, did not involve an in-depth discussion of head office policies in fluent Korean. Did you actually try ordering a combination MINUS all the toppings? Or did you just keep on saying "Cheese Pizza!" and then getting angry and frustrated?

Nope..no miscommunication involved. 

Someone who spoke English came over and told me that despite it takes less work to make a cheese pizza and being able to ring it, up, head office said they can't and won't. 

Care to continue?




yeah but in korea "can't do something" often means "don't want to / can't be bothered to do something"



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10836 on: October 30, 2019, 10:18:29 am »
This thread is dead. Its original purpose has been lost.

On top of that, there are some seriously insufferable people on this site these days. It was irritating but still tolerable when it was just the occasional apologist, but now it's Ultrapologist up there and the aggressive political dongs. 

Does anyone here frequent the Site-which-shall-not-be-named that popped up when this one started charging? How's the atmosphere over there? I need somewhere else to go.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10837 on: October 30, 2019, 10:31:51 am »
This thread is dead. Its original purpose has been lost.

On top of that, there are some seriously insufferable people on this site these days. It was irritating but still tolerable when it was just the occasional apologist, but now it's Ultrapologist up there and the aggressive political dongs. 

Does anyone here frequent the Site-which-shall-not-be-named that popped up when this one started charging? How's the atmosphere over there? I need somewhere else to go.

Yeah I've tried really hard to stop reading and posting here so much.  It was having a big effect on my mood generally.  The difference in atmosphere over there is like night and day.  Really friendly, welcoming, supportive etc.  No trolling or ratty comments, no endless bragging, no my job is better than your job, no multi quote essays.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10838 on: October 30, 2019, 10:37:32 am »

Yeah I've tried really hard to stop reading and posting here so much.  It was having a big effect on my mood generally.  The difference in atmosphere over there is like night and day.  Really friendly, welcoming, supportive etc.  No trolling or ratty comments, no endless bragging, no my job is better than your job, no multi quote essays.

Is it reasonably active? Or are there long stretches where nothing is getting bumped? As far as conversation-type threads, that is. I'm pretty set as far as lesson materials go.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0
« Reply #10839 on: October 30, 2019, 10:46:55 am »

Yeah I've tried really hard to stop reading and posting here so much.  It was having a big effect on my mood generally.  The difference in atmosphere over there is like night and day.  Really friendly, welcoming, supportive etc.  No trolling or ratty comments, no endless bragging, no my job is better than your job, no multi quote essays.

Is it reasonably active? Or are there long stretches where nothing is getting bumped? As far as conversation-type threads, that is. I'm pretty set as far as lesson materials go.

last i checked it wasnt too active (maybe a year ago?) but yeah it would be cool if it was more active these days