Quote from: Ronnie Omelettes on October 23, 2019, 02:40:37 pmQuote from: fka on October 23, 2019, 11:51:10 am.... at Daiso yesterday. I love Daiso. Just don't mention it to a Korean. Just now, I was in the main teacher's room. My co-teacher mentioned about my newish sweater, and where I bought it. I said 'Uniqlo'. Wow! Cue about 10 teachers all putting in their two cents about how I shouldn't be shopping in Uniqlo. Weeping Jesus. The Social Studies teacher even asked if I knew why Uniqlo is not good. Of course I said, 'Yes', with a shrug. I took the brunt of the nonsense with quiet aplomb and I'm still my eyes now. Adults! Grown people!! And, yes, I read about that Uniqlo advert that a small percentage of Koreans reacted to so that Uniqlo pulled it last week. Blind nationalism really is a stupid thing. Long after you and your "The rest of the world should just think like me" butt are gone, the Koreans will still be dealing with the Japanese.
Quote from: fka on October 23, 2019, 11:51:10 am.... at Daiso yesterday. I love Daiso. Just don't mention it to a Korean. Just now, I was in the main teacher's room. My co-teacher mentioned about my newish sweater, and where I bought it. I said 'Uniqlo'. Wow! Cue about 10 teachers all putting in their two cents about how I shouldn't be shopping in Uniqlo. Weeping Jesus. The Social Studies teacher even asked if I knew why Uniqlo is not good. Of course I said, 'Yes', with a shrug. I took the brunt of the nonsense with quiet aplomb and I'm still my eyes now. Adults! Grown people!! And, yes, I read about that Uniqlo advert that a small percentage of Koreans reacted to so that Uniqlo pulled it last week. Blind nationalism really is a stupid thing.
.... at Daiso yesterday. I love Daiso.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on October 24, 2019, 09:56:57 amQuote from: Ronnie Omelettes on October 23, 2019, 02:40:37 pmQuote from: fka on October 23, 2019, 11:51:10 am.... at Daiso yesterday. I love Daiso. Just don't mention it to a Korean. Just now, I was in the main teacher's room. My co-teacher mentioned about my newish sweater, and where I bought it. I said 'Uniqlo'. Wow! Cue about 10 teachers all putting in their two cents about how I shouldn't be shopping in Uniqlo. Weeping Jesus. The Social Studies teacher even asked if I knew why Uniqlo is not good. Of course I said, 'Yes', with a shrug. I took the brunt of the nonsense with quiet aplomb and I'm still my eyes now. Adults! Grown people!! And, yes, I read about that Uniqlo advert that a small percentage of Koreans reacted to so that Uniqlo pulled it last week. Blind nationalism really is a stupid thing. Long after you and your "The rest of the world should just think like me" butt are gone, the Koreans will still be dealing with the Japanese.It's the Koreans who expect everybody else to think and act their way over Japan. Not everybody in Korea wishes to join their mob, but they will bully those who don't. People have a right to shop where they wish and not be harassed over their consumer choices.Also, Korea started this whole drama by violating the 1965 treaty between Japan and Korea with the court ruling last year.
"dealing with the japanese" and acting like an adult aren't mutually exclusive
It's the Koreans who expect everybody else to think and act their way over Japan. Not everybody in Korea wishes to join their mob, but they will bully those who don't. People have a right to shop where they wish and not be harassed over their consumer choices.Also, Korea started this whole drama by violating the 1965 treaty between Japan and Korea with the court ruling last year.
I have a huge amount of respect for my CT, not because she agrees with me, but because she's developed a critical brain in a place which doesn't encourage it and got very irate when this whole mess re-surfaced... AGAIN. She told me, though I knew before, that Korea and Japan reached a final settlement in the 60s. Once you've settled, it's final, you can't demand settlement again.
I get it that Martin in his Korean/Americaness has stupid nationalism flowing through him. I, however, don't.
Quote from: Aristocrat on October 24, 2019, 11:25:13 amI have a huge amount of respect for my CT, not because she agrees with me, but because she's developed a critical brain in a place which doesn't encourage it and got very irate when this whole mess re-surfaced... AGAIN. She told me, though I knew before, that Korea and Japan reached a final settlement in the 60s. Once you've settled, it's final, you can't demand settlement again. As I said, for many Koreans they don't feel like "they" settled it. The agreement was made by Park Chung-Hee whom roughly 1/3rd-1/2 regard as an illegitimate dictator who was also a collaborator during the Japanese occupation. It would be akin to asseting the legitimacy of a treaty made by Franco. Technically legitimate it may be, but you can see where the problems are.
The Spanish can't just come claim Gibraltar back because some inbred French king signed it over to the British hundreds of years ago and they don't like.
Just because YOU think it's a trivial issue doesn't mean it is one. We have a multitude of various boycott novements going on around the world, some on far more trivial issues thsn the admittedly politically roused issue of wartime sexual slavery.
never said it was trivial. just said you don't have to act immature by having a go at your co-worker who happened to buy a japanese sweater.
Quote from: Ronnie Omelettes on October 24, 2019, 10:32:10 am I get it that Martin in his Korean/Americaness has stupid nationalism flowing through him. I, however, don't. My opinion about Korea is tinged with nationalism because I'm ethnically Korean. Or what because I'm American?
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on October 24, 2019, 11:47:34 amQuote from: Ronnie Omelettes on October 24, 2019, 10:32:10 am I get it that Martin in his Korean/Americaness has stupid nationalism flowing through him. I, however, don't. My opinion about Korea is tinged with nationalism because I'm ethnically Korean. Or what because I'm American?Both. Both countries that people get all bent out of shape at the meerest negative comment aimed at them. Your posting history highlights this in buckets. I have no 'stupid nationalism' flowing through me as I don't think I, or my country, are any better than anyone else.
Quote from: Ronnie Omelettes on October 24, 2019, 12:49:55 pmQuote from: Mr.DeMartino on October 24, 2019, 11:47:34 amQuote from: Ronnie Omelettes on October 24, 2019, 10:32:10 am I get it that Martin in his Korean/Americaness has stupid nationalism flowing through him. I, however, don't. My opinion about Korea is tinged with nationalism because I'm ethnically Korean. Or what because I'm American?Both. Both countries that people get all bent out of shape at the meerest negative comment aimed at them. Your posting history highlights this in buckets. I have no 'stupid nationalism' flowing through me as I don't think I, or my country, are any better than anyone else. Your comments seem to indicate that subconsciously you do. It's not my fault you aren't aware or self-honest enough to realize it. Why else would you bring up my ethnicity and my nationality? Seems like something a nationalist would do.
I don't think I, or my country, are any better than anyone else.
QuoteI don't think I, or my country, are any better than anyone else. I think my country is better than say, Somali. Does that make me a stupid nationalist?
I think my country is better than Yemen. Does that make me a stupid nationalist?
Quote from: stoat on October 24, 2019, 01:38:17 pmI think my country is better than Yemen. Does that make me a stupid nationalist? Did you use the ethnicity and nationality of an American of Yemeni descent to invalidate their opinion? If not, the probably not, at least not the stupid part. If you did, then quite probably, at least the stupid part.