Like, duh, not having your phone on silent or vibrate is inconsiderate and rude and also dumb. Especially in an office. And especially especially if you're not even in the office to hear it. But still. Don't touch other people's stuff.
The Confucian culture is the reason many westerners, like myself, have a difficult time in Korea, but we're on their turf. We all might just be blowing this whole thing out of proportion and none of your co-workers gives a hoot.
wow almost the same thing just happened to me a minute ago. my co-teacher's phone was buzzing super loudly (phone + glass desk = noise). i let it ring the first time and then they called again so i just picked it up and put it on top of some papers to muffle the sound. no one said anything about it
If someone turned my phone to silent while I wasn't even in the room, I wouldn't even realise it wasn't already on silent. I'd also feel embarrassed for being so unprofessional at work that my phone was ringing and shouting Kakao at the top of it's lungs in the teachers office.
a bit related: the public school teacher's office i used to work in had the most amount of drama i've ever seen in an office. it was ridiculous. teachers acting more childish than the actual students i would teachi'm not surrpsied with the drama-aftermath of turning a teacher's phone over - everyone seems to act like absolute babies in school offices
In the West, a person usually gets promoted when they show some gumption, a solid work-ethic etc. In Korea, you get promoted based on your age your relationship with your seniors and you ability to stick to the rules... essentially, "maintaining the Confucian harmony".When you ask your CT if you can leave early, even if it's 10min, by agreeing she officially gives you permission to break the rules. Should another staff member ask where you're off to and you blab, you could jeopardize her career. Petty and ridiculous, I know, but that's how Korea works. When you ask, unless you've got a really good relationship and your CT really trusts you, she's going to give you the official spiel.
.... at Daiso yesterday. I love Daiso.
Quote from: AvecPommesFrites on October 23, 2019, 08:56:20 amIf someone turned my phone to silent while I wasn't even in the room, I wouldn't even realise it wasn't already on silent. I'd also feel embarrassed for being so unprofessional at work that my phone was ringing and shouting Kakao at the top of it's lungs in the teachers office.Yeah, there is very little reason to have your phone with the alert on. If you're at home? I don't give a shit. But ANYWHERE else, there are very, very few reasons. You're a doctor? Alright. Some sort of emergency professional? Alright. But, no, sorry. Working in the VPs office? Hell no. Phones screens turn on when they get a message. Just leave the phone face up, FFS. You leave to go to the bathroom? PHONES HAVE A LIGHT ON THEM WITH DIFFERENT COLOURS TO ALERT YOU WHAT KIND OF THING HAPPENED FOR AN ALERT.Hell, there's no real reason to even have it on vibrate most of the time. If I had a little machine on my desk that said a random English word at a decent decibel level every four minutes, everyone around me would tell me to get rid of the f-ing thing, a phone is no different.
Quote from: fka on October 23, 2019, 11:51:10 am.... at Daiso yesterday. I love Daiso. Just don't mention it to a Korean. Just now, I was in the main teacher's room. My co-teacher mentioned about my newish sweater, and where I bought it. I said 'Uniqlo'. Wow! Cue about 10 teachers all putting in their two cents about how I shouldn't be shopping in Uniqlo. Weeping Jesus. The Social Studies teacher even asked if I knew why Uniqlo is not good. Of course I said, 'Yes', with a shrug. I took the brunt of the nonsense with quiet aplomb and I'm still my eyes now. Adults! Grown people!! And, yes, I read about that Uniqlo advert that a small percentage of Koreans reacted to so that Uniqlo pulled it last week. Blind nationalism really is a stupid thing.
Long after you and your "The rest of the world should just think like me" butt are gone, the Koreans will still be dealing with the Japanese.
Quote from: Ronnie Omelettes on October 23, 2019, 02:40:37 pmQuote from: fka on October 23, 2019, 11:51:10 am.... at Daiso yesterday. I love Daiso. Just don't mention it to a Korean. Just now, I was in the main teacher's room. My co-teacher mentioned about my newish sweater, and where I bought it. I said 'Uniqlo'. Wow! Cue about 10 teachers all putting in their two cents about how I shouldn't be shopping in Uniqlo. Weeping Jesus. The Social Studies teacher even asked if I knew why Uniqlo is not good. Of course I said, 'Yes', with a shrug. I took the brunt of the nonsense with quiet aplomb and I'm still my eyes now. Adults! Grown people!! And, yes, I read about that Uniqlo advert that a small percentage of Koreans reacted to so that Uniqlo pulled it last week. Blind nationalism really is a stupid thing. Long after you and your "The rest of the world should just think like me" butt are gone, the Koreans will still be dealing with the Japanese.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on October 24, 2019, 09:56:57 amQuote from: Ronnie Omelettes on October 23, 2019, 02:40:37 pmQuote from: fka on October 23, 2019, 11:51:10 am.... at Daiso yesterday. I love Daiso. Just don't mention it to a Korean. Just now, I was in the main teacher's room. My co-teacher mentioned about my newish sweater, and where I bought it. I said 'Uniqlo'. Wow! Cue about 10 teachers all putting in their two cents about how I shouldn't be shopping in Uniqlo. Weeping Jesus. The Social Studies teacher even asked if I knew why Uniqlo is not good. Of course I said, 'Yes', with a shrug. I took the brunt of the nonsense with quiet aplomb and I'm still my eyes now. Adults! Grown people!! And, yes, I read about that Uniqlo advert that a small percentage of Koreans reacted to so that Uniqlo pulled it last week. Blind nationalism really is a stupid thing. Long after you and your "The rest of the world should just think like me" butt are gone, the Koreans will still be dealing with the Japanese."dealing with the japanese" and acting like an adult aren't mutually exclusive