Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on October 15, 2019, 03:01:11 pmyou don't see Kpop fans going out of their way to trash other music on here. That's a blinking red indicator. Banter is usually a two-way street, but this is one-way.I agree with most of what you're saying, but I do feel that I have to correct you on this.A lot of k-pop fans are extremely vocal about the genres they see as inferior. K-pop fans like to trash other genres of music just as much as anybody else does.
you don't see Kpop fans going out of their way to trash other music on here. That's a blinking red indicator. Banter is usually a two-way street, but this is one-way.
and we've gone full circledidn't this whole thing start because i said something like "kpop fans are annoying"?
ronnie omelettes is kind of annoyingthere. now let the next 10-page argument commence
Narrator: 'Look at this shattered British guy coming home from his long day at work, and then doing the 50/50 housework' Oglop: '뭐야' Narrator: 'Look, he spilled the washing powder all over the floor before stepping on a soiled nappy' *repeated three times with a boing sound* Wife: 오빠 바보!*canned laughter* Oglop: FML
Quote from: Ronnie Omelettes on September 02, 2019, 03:11:25 pmNarrator: 'Look at this shattered British guy coming home from his long day at work, and then doing the 50/50 housework' Oglop: '뭐야' Narrator: 'Look, he spilled the washing powder all over the floor before stepping on a soiled nappy' *repeated three times with a boing sound* Wife: 오빠 바보!*canned laughter* Oglop: FML There's something unsettling about these sound effects on a news broadcast; seems undignified:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C20inS4gT_k
There's something unsettling about these sound effects on a news broadcast; seems undignified:
Quote from: L I on October 16, 2019, 04:29:26 amThere's something unsettling about these sound effects on a news broadcast; seems undignified:I think "Unnie News" on Arirang is not meant to be in the same vein as the nightly news. It's a casual news program that's as much edutainment as news. It's not like she's talking about some trade deal or the Korea-Japan dispute. I think you're misreading things.
Just as people are allowed to like ballads, people are allowed to not like pop. You can't get on people for not recognizing that people can like whatever they want and then turn around and go after people for not liking whatever they don't. It seems strange to be open-minded enough to understand why people might like a genre you don't care for, but not enough to understand why people might not like a genre you do care for.
Dude, this is the ranting thread. This is what it's for. You just dragged an argument about why we must all be lying, emotional cripples because we don't enjoy Korean ballads, across multiple pages. Take your bullshit elsewhere.
Martin.
Quote from: L I on October 16, 2019, 04:29:26 amQuote from: Ronnie Omelettes on September 02, 2019, 03:11:25 pmNarrator: 'Look at this shattered British guy coming home from his long day at work, and then doing the 50/50 housework' Oglop: '뭐야' Narrator: 'Look, he spilled the washing powder all over the floor before stepping on a soiled nappy' *repeated three times with a boing sound* Wife: 오빠 바보!*canned laughter* Oglop: FML There's something unsettling about these sound effects on a news broadcast; seems undignified:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C20inS4gT_kSoooooooooooooooooo ooo third? "Koreans are second most victims after American and British actresses."Yeah, and I'm the second best tennis player after all the best tennis players in the world.Also, unnie? It's like spelling 아저씨 Ajuicy.
Quote from: Mister Tim on October 15, 2019, 03:25:26 pmJust as people are allowed to like ballads, people are allowed to not like pop. You can't get on people for not recognizing that people can like whatever they want and then turn around and go after people for not liking whatever they don't. It seems strange to be open-minded enough to understand why people might like a genre you don't care for, but not enough to understand why people might not like a genre you do care for.I'm trying to point out to someone who thinks they have no musical value or whatever, why they may have a blind spot in their view. Some people frankly "don't get it" when it comes to why people like certain things. It's not that they are wrong for not liking it, just that there seems to, in some cases, be a certain level of ignorance. "They don't even play their own instruments. It's bad music."What I'm doing is pointing out how that's irrelevant to the intended audience. They aren't looking for instrumental musicianship. They are focused on the singer and their vocal talents as well as their ability to emote and communicate so in turn the listener empathizes with them and in a sense, lives vicariously through their performance. The critic has completely misunderstood the point. And again, I'll point to the Roger Ebert standard for criticism- you judge something based on how it was intended towards the audience it was designed for. A goofy slapstick comedy done extremely well is more worthy of 3-4 stars than some art house film poorly done. The latter may be more creative, have better acting, etc. etc. but it doesn't succeed, whereas the former does. This requires the critic to be comfortable with all genres and to empathize with the audience and value them and what they are trying to experience. At the core of it is the idea "I am not the center of the universe and my standards are not the standards of the world that everyone should agree with. Rather every person has value and the entertainment preferences they have, have value, and I will do my utmost to try and respect those." It's not surprising that people who have trouble with musical genres focused more on empathy and a listening style based on experiencing the emotions of the performer, in turn have trouble empathizing with other consumer of music and seeing taste and preference and quality through a lens other than their own and in turn start to judge people as human being based on things like "taste in music".