Quote from: Aristocrat on October 15, 2019, 12:07:19 pmQuote from: OnNut81 on October 15, 2019, 11:46:37 amAristocrat: I know very little about brewing coffee, never really liked the stuff. So, if a coffee aficionado decides to tell me how to brew coffee, I'll STFU and hear what he/she has to say. Really? I also know very little about coffee as I don't drink and don't care one iota about it, so my reaction to some coffee aficionado trying to tell me about coffee would be to hope they could read the room and stop boring me with their expertise. Hint, hint. Fascinating, you're engaging in a rather long discussion about music, yet you've no interest in it?Or... you're interested in music and are willing to engage in an argument, that is until someone who knows more than you comes along. Then you chuck your toys, pout your lips, declare the game boring, blow a raspberry and run home. "Runaway when you know you can't win"I should remember thatAs I long suspected, we have a name to add to the list of people who take themselves too seriously to be light heartedly mocked. I get it, you consider yourself an expert in the study of music and its technical aspects. You've exhaustedly covered that. You, however, are clearly, not an expert in reading the room and realise people think your enlightenments on music are boring. I enjoy music greatly, but I don't really care what's behind the sound. It's a visceral response for me. Stop taking yourself so seriously with the "you should care what I say about Korean ballads." attitude. I don't care. Most people in this discussion don't seem to care. I get that's not the response you wanted, but it is the reality. You've decided there is only one way to discuss and understand music (from your perspective, unsurprisingly) and you're frustrated that your opinions are not getting the respect you feel they deserve. Here is a simpler way to understand the situation. The only person who is impressed with your credentials and understanding of music is...you. That should make it easy.
Quote from: OnNut81 on October 15, 2019, 11:46:37 amAristocrat: I know very little about brewing coffee, never really liked the stuff. So, if a coffee aficionado decides to tell me how to brew coffee, I'll STFU and hear what he/she has to say. Really? I also know very little about coffee as I don't drink and don't care one iota about it, so my reaction to some coffee aficionado trying to tell me about coffee would be to hope they could read the room and stop boring me with their expertise. Hint, hint. Fascinating, you're engaging in a rather long discussion about music, yet you've no interest in it?Or... you're interested in music and are willing to engage in an argument, that is until someone who knows more than you comes along. Then you chuck your toys, pout your lips, declare the game boring, blow a raspberry and run home. "Runaway when you know you can't win"I should remember that
Aristocrat: I know very little about brewing coffee, never really liked the stuff. So, if a coffee aficionado decides to tell me how to brew coffee, I'll STFU and hear what he/she has to say. Really? I also know very little about coffee as I don't drink and don't care one iota about it, so my reaction to some coffee aficionado trying to tell me about coffee would be to hope they could read the room and stop boring me with their expertise. Hint, hint.
Imagine not liking pop music. That must suck.
Quote from: OnNut81 on October 15, 2019, 12:35:56 pmQuote from: Aristocrat on October 15, 2019, 12:07:19 pmQuote from: OnNut81 on October 15, 2019, 11:46:37 amAristocrat: I know very little about brewing coffee, never really liked the stuff. So, if a coffee aficionado decides to tell me how to brew coffee, I'll STFU and hear what he/she has to say. Really? I also know very little about coffee as I don't drink and don't care one iota about it, so my reaction to some coffee aficionado trying to tell me about coffee would be to hope they could read the room and stop boring me with their expertise. Hint, hint. Fascinating, you're engaging in a rather long discussion about music, yet you've no interest in it?Or... you're interested in music and are willing to engage in an argument, that is until someone who knows more than you comes along. Then you chuck your toys, pout your lips, declare the game boring, blow a raspberry and run home. "Runaway when you know you can't win"I should remember thatAs I long suspected, we have a name to add to the list of people who take themselves too seriously to be light heartedly mocked. I get it, you consider yourself an expert in the study of music and its technical aspects. You've exhaustedly covered that. You, however, are clearly, not an expert in reading the room and realise people think your enlightenments on music are boring. I enjoy music greatly, but I don't really care what's behind the sound. It's a visceral response for me. Stop taking yourself so seriously with the "you should care what I say about Korean ballads." attitude. I don't care. Most people in this discussion don't seem to care. I get that's not the response you wanted, but it is the reality. You've decided there is only one way to discuss and understand music (from your perspective, unsurprisingly) and you're frustrated that your opinions are not getting the respect you feel they deserve. Here is a simpler way to understand the situation. The only person who is impressed with your credentials and understanding of music is...you. That should make it easy. Many find musical understanding fascinating. Take a seat, don't flatter yourself, the last thing I'd give a crap about is trying to impress you... you're approval is not terribly important to me. You're absolutely hell-bent on believing I'm trying to grandstand. Has the possibility never occurred to you that a person who really has a passion for music simply likes to discuss it? Crazy! I know.If you find a proper critique on the genres in question boring? Fine, if you can't keep up/are unwilling to participate, leave the discussion. I made the mistake of assuming a college educated adult might take an interest in learning something new. Obviously, I was wrong.It would be interesting to compare which would be lower, your interest in my opinion, or my interest in your approval.
QuoteAs I said, I think Chinguetti was hitting on something when she posted this-Quote from: Chinguetti on September 30, 2019, 01:11:57 pmI also notice that a lot of the music trash talking almost exclusively begins whenever a boy band is the subject. Doesn't seem to come up as often when girl groups are mentioned. Is this related to your theory that males who slag off K pop bands do it because they're secretly jealous of their effeminate looks and dance moves?
As I said, I think Chinguetti was hitting on something when she posted this-Quote from: Chinguetti on September 30, 2019, 01:11:57 pmI also notice that a lot of the music trash talking almost exclusively begins whenever a boy band is the subject. Doesn't seem to come up as often when girl groups are mentioned.
you don't see Kpop fans going out of their way to trash other music on here. That's a blinking red indicator. Banter is usually a two-way street, but this is one-way.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on October 15, 2019, 03:01:11 pmyou don't see Kpop fans going out of their way to trash other music on here. That's a blinking red indicator. Banter is usually a two-way street, but this is one-way.I agree with most of what you're saying, but I do feel that I have to correct you on this.A lot of k-pop fans are extremely vocal about the genres they see as inferior. K-pop fans like to trash other genres of music just as much as anybody else does.
and we've gone full circledidn't this whole thing start because i said something like "kpop fans are annoying"?
ronnie omelettes is kind of annoyingthere. now let the next 10-page argument commence
Narrator: 'Look at this shattered British guy coming home from his long day at work, and then doing the 50/50 housework' Oglop: '뭐야' Narrator: 'Look, he spilled the washing powder all over the floor before stepping on a soiled nappy' *repeated three times with a boing sound* Wife: 오빠 바보!*canned laughter* Oglop: FML
Quote from: Ronnie Omelettes on September 02, 2019, 03:11:25 pmNarrator: 'Look at this shattered British guy coming home from his long day at work, and then doing the 50/50 housework' Oglop: '뭐야' Narrator: 'Look, he spilled the washing powder all over the floor before stepping on a soiled nappy' *repeated three times with a boing sound* Wife: 오빠 바보!*canned laughter* Oglop: FML There's something unsettling about these sound effects on a news broadcast; seems undignified:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C20inS4gT_k
There's something unsettling about these sound effects on a news broadcast; seems undignified:
Quote from: L I on October 16, 2019, 04:29:26 amThere's something unsettling about these sound effects on a news broadcast; seems undignified:I think "Unnie News" on Arirang is not meant to be in the same vein as the nightly news. It's a casual news program that's as much edutainment as news. It's not like she's talking about some trade deal or the Korea-Japan dispute. I think you're misreading things.