^ most other countries manage itedit: i meant i'm not sure why any teachers (korean/foreign) have to stay. not just the NETs. even the korean teachers are often drinking coffee and gossiping, sleeping at their desks or online shopping
look, you can spin it however you want, but, desk warming is pointless. i would have the entire week planned and prepared by the end of monday, and be bored stiff tuesday-friday. none of the korean teachers needed help and i asked to do a voluntary class and was refused. i had literally nothing to do that was work-related. not to mention having to come in during the vacation period and sit there in an empty office. well, an empty school
What's your alternative system? YOU and only YOU get to leave whenever you feel like it? No contractually stated work hours and work days?
The point is that it maintains order, discipline, fairness, accountability, responsibility, and equal treatment.
My immediate response would be to adjust the budget by reducing teacher pay in proportion to the amount of hours they would miss and then reallocate it elsewhere. Clearly you don't need the money because you are unwilling to do ZERO work to earn it.
And if you show zero initiative to work, then we would just be paying you to do nothing. From the perspective of management, you should be grateful you get paid money to do nothing. But since there's zero return and lots of complaints, I would rather that money go elsewhere or to more motivated employees.
In fact, if that is the attitude that is prevelant, perhaps it is time to eliminate all NETs from the Big 7 and replace them with Filipinos who we could pay 2/3rds as much and will have 4X the work ethic. Also, we can pay them hourly instead of salary.
Thanks for making a great case as to why you should be laid off. And since you might well be leaving outside of your designated working hours, if I have evidence, I can terminate you with cause. And if you signed any government documents that stated otherwise, I could pursue criminal charges of fraud/embezzlement and perjury and also take you to civil court to recover lost money + damages.
Or would you rather desk warm?
at my current job i get paid per class, and get paid overtime if i need to do extra paperwork
doesn't make it less pointless, which is my only point
i just told you i was trying to find stuff to do, but was shot down every time.
NET wages are low anyway. isn't the starting wage 1.9m? wages haven't gone up in....ever? might not even be a bad negotiation - don't increase wages, but let you go home a bit earlier.
i think this has been discussed before. just because you're filipino, it doesn't mean you have perfect english. (having said that, i'm sure a lot of NETs don't have a good grasp of grammar. but at least they know what is good/bad english).
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During my first year, at a school I no longer work at, I was told to come in on a day when a typhoon was raging through the city; I'm talking about trees falling on cars and every other student andteacher, save yours truly, was instructed to stay home by a particular asshole of a principal. To be clear, I wasn't forgotten, I was specifically told to come in. Last year, my wife had to deskwarm, till 4:30, after camp, at a school were the principal allowed every other teacher, aside from her, to leave early. Only the janitor was the other soul in the entire building. These are only 2 examples of similar things I've heard of and personally experienced over the years.I'm not seeing the "equal treatment" or "fairness" you mentioned and another thing, Korean HR teachers get PAID a lot more than we do to put up with that crap. Furthermore, you forget a huge distinction; a Korean HR teacher gets paid to teach, do admin and put up with crap from parents. We are paid to teach AND live away from our homes, families, friends etc. Korean HR teachers get paid more than us and have admin work to do as well.You know want to know why the majority of NETs end up "giving up" or becoming flaky teachers? Well, it's pretty much the exact same reason Korean teachers give up and why I've got a class filled with a dozen 13yr olds who've never been taught how to hold a f*cking pencil properly; teachers, in Korea, get little to no support. When have NETs, or representatives of NETs, been called in by the POE to discuss curriculum? asked to select or appraise textbooks? asked for any thoughts at all?I literally watched the zeal of 3 brand new Korean teachers (fresh out of college) diminish, week by week, as they realised that efforts to help a student/do their job, was usually met with fierce resistance instead of support and they'd eventually adopt the attitude of ambivalence I've come to know from so many Korean teachers and NETs. A girl doesn't know her ABCs, I try to get her HR teacher to help me give her extra tuition, particularly as I'm not there 5 days a week. I was willing to sacrifice my deskwarming time. Nope, HR teacher is "too busy" and so is the girl. Parents complain if I give homework or discipline a kid for showing the finger to my CT. Spineless VP always takes the parents side.
What's the alternate system you say? Let NETs go home. We aren't paid by the hour.
I don't need to make a case, the proof is around us. Teachers (Korean and NET) are slacking because the higher ups basically give us a big FU instead of support and we respond in kind. Teaching is a thankless profession, no need to make it harder, particularly when the reasons are completely unnecessary.
I don't know who you're trying to impress, but when you constantly sh*t on NETs for being lazy, entitled or whatever, it really doesn't make you sound humble, honest or virtuous. You think showing that you're not afraid to put the nature of your livelihood down makes you an objective person? Nobody is impressed.
there are 4 billion people who would literally give their right kidney to have such a job.
. everyone goes back to school on Wednesday.
1. that's not what i'm saying. it's just a silly regulation. that's literally my whole point
and then i realise how awful desk warming was
that would mean the concept of desk warming wouldn't even exist (by definition it's sitting at your desk doing nothing, right?). if you were sitting at a desk, not teaching but doing work, it would just be called "working"
2.2m for an 8 hour day is still low. 2.2m for a 6 hour day is much more "reasonable".
wages haven't increased for 15 years, plus bonuses/benefits have since been cut from the contracts. just saying it might be a good idea going forward. if the MOEs aren't gonna increase wages, why not reduce hours instead? seems like something they should consider
being able to plan effectively and quickly doesn't mean you have a poor work ethic. you could spend 5 hours on a single lesson plan and it could still be terrible. or you could spend 5 minutes on a lesson and it could be a huge success. time spent on planning =/= good teaching/good lessons. one of the first things they teach you on your CELTA course is "work smarter, not harder"
that's why i found another job. that's something like 960 fewer hours every year needlessly sitting at a desk (while earning more money)
For some ridiculous reason I don't understand, the principal at my main elementary school has shortened the summer holidays. This school ended classes around the same time as all the other elementary schools and starts classes 2 weeks before any other elementary school in the city, everyone goes back to school on Wednesday. Seriously, f*ck that guy.
Then let them teach for an entire year.Oh, I forgot...Koreans only want blonde female American to teach.
I agree wholeheartedly with oglop that no school nor principal should ever dare to instruct me on how to manage my afternoons or free periods between classes.
How about I quit and the school needs to find a replacement? You can tell that expensive sub (110 euros p/hour) to stay at school while I'll collect my job seekers allowance! At home!
Seriously, the level of ego behind that statement is mind-boggling. Dude, you aren't the boss. You signed the contract, you agreed to be hired under someone, function within the system.
employees left to their own devices, can start to significantly decline in performance.