RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD 3.0

That's exactly what they're doing, hiding from the world for an hour or two. As long as they're sitting on some stupid piece of machinery that nobody should be using, like the leg-extension machine, then they're doing the rest of the gym a favour.

What is with all the hate for leg extension machines, lol?

Quote from Jeff Cavaliere

"I’ve written before about this one, but it bears writing about it again (especially because it’s my least favorite of them all). The leg extension is one of the most unnatural and impractical (meaning…nonfunctional) exercises you can do in the gym.  It’s trying to strengthen your knee to extend or straighten, but it does so with your legs flying freely in the air!

At what point are you straightening both legs at the same time in the air?!?  Unless you’re working on a flying trapeze for a living…the answer is never!  If that wasn’t bad enough, it’s the damage that is done to your knees that makes this one brutal!

With a shearing force that is up to 8 times the amount of weight you’re attempting to lift, being borne across your knee joint on each and every rep…it’s no wonder how just a few workouts of these can take even the healthiest knee and reduce it to a nothing more than a clicking, aching, creaky hinge joint that even the Tin Man’s oil can’t fix!"

When I first read your comment about the leg-extension right away I thought this sniffs of Jeff Cavaliere.  He makes no attempt to hide his disdain for it.  I'm a big fan of Athlean-X and use a lot of his tips.  But, I would say that because he has to keep putting out vids he sometimes puts filler.  There's nothing wrong with leg-extension used properly near the end of a leg day as an isolating exercise for the quad.  You shouldn't be using heavy weight or kicking up with momentum.  As a controlled motion without locking the knee I have no fear of it.  Definitely not knocking Jeff (Jesse maybe) but a lot of his "don't do this" vids are as I said just filler.  You'd have to be a total idiot to try some of that stuff he cautions against. 

Is it illegal to walk in single file in Korea?  It must be.

I can't count the number of times I've had to step into the road to avoid shoulder barging someone coming the other way because for whatever reason they haven't moved out of the way on a narrow path.

It's usually couples walking side by side.  I don't know what the problem is.  It's like their whole world is going to end if they, for one second, have to let go of their bf/gf's hand and slip into single file while we pass each other.  Jesus, if you have to stop holding hands for a nano second on the street it doesn't mean you're going to break up!

Manitoba, Canada has a law against walking 3-abreast.
It is the lowest fine on the books, so it has been used as a proxy for other offenses, such as open liquor.

https://www.google.ca/amp/s/ca.news.yahoo.com/amphtml/blogs/daily-buzz/infamous-two-abreast-ticket-actually-winnipeg-cops-doing-171138062.html

Third post in this thread today but god did this wind me up when I saw it.

The arrogance of it.  If you don't know what's going on that's a player from good ol' team USA mocking England when she scored in the World Cup.

It comes not long after they beat Thailand 13-0 and were still celebrating every goal as if they'd won the world cup.  Absolutely no respect for their opponents. 

Disgusting behaviour all round really.

not a soccer fan so im not sure what the big deal is. is it usually rude to celebrate a goal? this doesn't seem particularly offensive, but... i'm not super tuned in to soccer culture

It's not rude to celebrate a goal but when you're scoring number seven, eight, nine etc, you shouldn't be rubbing it in the faces of the other team and should be showing a bit of humility.  Just applaud your team mates and head back to your own half ready for the kick off.

Third post in this thread today but god did this wind me up when I saw it.

The arrogance of it.  If you don't know what's going on that's a player from good ol' team USA mocking England when she scored in the World Cup.

It comes not long after they beat Thailand 13-0 and were still celebrating every goal as if they'd won the world cup.  Absolutely no respect for their opponents. 

Disgusting behaviour all round really.

not a soccer fan so im not sure what the big deal is. is it usually rude to celebrate a goal? this doesn't seem particularly offensive, but... i'm not super tuned in to soccer culture

It's not rude to celebrate a goal but when you're scoring number seven, eight, nine etc, you shouldn't be rubbing it in the faces of the other team and should be showing a bit of humility.  Just applaud your team mates and head back to your own half ready for the kick off.

yeah i get it in the thailand game. but the celebration in the picture you linked doesnt seem very offensive imo

I've had meniscus surgery in Korea and have to be careful about the leg exercises that I do at the gym.

What you guys are talking about is the leg press, not the leg extension. The leg extension is a different exercise which is very safe and generally recommended for rehabilitation. Google it.

The leg press is safe enough between 90-180 degrees, but at less than 90 degrees it puts a lot of pressure on your meniscus and probably other parts of the knee anatomy too. Squatting down below 90 degrees is similarly bad for people with weak knees.

My quads are unfortunately still pathetic 18 months after my surgery, no matter what I try. Any advice would be appreciated.

I think you're the confused one. Aside the vast majority of articles claiming that the leg extension carries with it a significant degree of knee risk, Jeff Cavaliere from Athlean X (a guy whom I've never found to be wrong and pretty much the defacto standard in fitness on YT), mirrors all the concerns I've raised and warns against this silly contraption.

This is a leg press machine (completely safe as long as you don't lock your knees... i.e AT 180 DEGREES)


This is a leg extension machine


Squatting low should have ZERO impact on your knees if you're doing the exercise properly and are bio-mechanically balanced.
For quads, do high-bar back squats, sled sprints or front squats.

(Why the leg extension is a terrible exercise)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VvLpDniGiDM

You know, I agree with a lot of what you say on Waygook.org and consider you to be one of the most intelligent and insightful posters, but all I'm hearing from your here is gym bro 'science'.

After having meniscus surgery, the first two rehabilitative exercises that the orthopaedic surgeon encouraged me to do were the exercise bike and the leg extension. I don't blindly trust doctors, especially GPs, but this was a well-regarded orthopaedist who had already received his money for the operation.

I exercise a lot, and the one thing that really makes me knee issues flare up is bearing weight on my lower body with my knees bent to below 90 degrees. The leg press is possible with a low weight and starting at 90 degrees. Squatting no lower than 90 degrees is fine too. Going below that is asking for trouble.

You refer to people being 'bio-mechanically balanced' as a kind of disclaimer, but assuming that people do have everything in order is a huge assumption. A lot of people have undiagnosed meniscal tears and no doubt other injuries too, so insisting that squatting is fine for people who are injury-free is not a very persuasive argument.

Third post in this thread today but god did this wind me up when I saw it.

The arrogance of it.  If you don't know what's going on that's a player from good ol' team USA mocking England when she scored in the World Cup.

It comes not long after they beat Thailand 13-0 and were still celebrating every goal as if they'd won the world cup.  Absolutely no respect for their opponents. 

Disgusting behaviour all round really.

not a soccer fan so im not sure what the big deal is. is it usually rude to celebrate a goal? this doesn't seem particularly offensive, but... i'm not super tuned in to soccer culture

It's not rude to celebrate a goal but when you're scoring number seven, eight, nine etc, you shouldn't be rubbing it in the faces of the other team and should be showing a bit of humility.  Just applaud your team mates and head back to your own half ready for the kick off.

yeah i get it in the thailand game. but the celebration in the picture you linked doesnt seem very offensive imo

Ah ok sorry.  I suppose personally, I think it's bad form to mock your opponents' culture like that.  Just seems really trashy (whatever the opposite of "classy" is) to me.

Is it illegal to walk in single file in Korea?  It must be.

I can't count the number of times I've had to step into the road to avoid shoulder barging someone coming the other way because for whatever reason they haven't moved out of the way on a narrow path.

It's usually couples walking side by side.  I don't know what the problem is.  It's like their whole world is going to end if they, for one second, have to let go of their bf/gf's hand and slip into single file while we pass each other.  Jesus, if you have to stop holding hands for a nano second on the street it doesn't mean you're going to break up!

You've clearly never been in love. When you hold hands with that special someone the world melts away and you wouldn't care if they all perished in a fire.

Love is nothing more than chemicals in your brain that make you want to have children.
They hit hard and fast, and slowly dies down. And once they are gone, all you are left with is a failing marriage.

Love is nothing more than chemicals in your brain that make you want to have children.
They hit hard and fast, and slowly dies down. And once they are gone, all you are left with is a failing marriage.

I was exaggerating for effect, for the record. But I get what you're saying.

Love is nothing more than chemicals in your brain that make you want to have children.
They hit hard and fast, and slowly dies down. And once they are gone, all you are left with is a failing marriage.

I was exaggerating for effect, for the record. But I get what you're saying.

What I said was just a joke from Rick and Morty haha

Ah ok sorry.  I suppose personally, I think it's bad form to mock your opponents' culture like that.  Just seems really trashy (whatever the opposite of "classy" is) to me.

yeah, it didn't feel very "gracious". comes across as being a bad winner, for me. same with celebrating every goal in that 13-0 game. but whatever, not an overly big deal

Warning for Canadians:

Yesterday, my KEB-Hana MasterCard was declined at Tim Horton’s in Saint John, NB.

I paid in cash, and called the bank. My wife in in Manitoba, and was  planning to use that card quite a bit this week!

The bank saw the two attempts  “Declined”, put couldn’t explain why. There was plenty of available credit, and I was up to date on payments.

In any event, I used my card later that day.  My wife used hers in Manitoba a two times... but in the third purchase today it was declined. At a Tim Horton’s half way across the country.

Has anybody else had this happen? Are there other vendors I should avoid with this card?

Warning for Canadians:

Yesterday, my KEB-Hana MasterCard was declined at Tim Horton’s in Saint John, NB.

I paid in cash, and called the bank. My wife in in Manitoba, and was  planning to use that card quite a bit this week!

The bank saw the two attempts  “Declined”, put couldn’t explain why. There was plenty of available credit, and I was up to date on payments.

In any event, I used my card later that day.  My wife used hers in Manitoba a two times... but in the third purchase today it was declined. At a Tim Horton’s half way across the country.

Has anybody else had this happen? Are there other vendors I should avoid with this card?

Before going abroad, you're required to notify your bank otherwise there's a chance they'll view the international payment as suspicious and decline it.

Warning for Canadians:

Yesterday, my KEB-Hana MasterCard was declined at Tim Horton’s in Saint John, NB.

I paid in cash, and called the bank. My wife in in Manitoba, and was  planning to use that card quite a bit this week!

The bank saw the two attempts  “Declined”, put couldn’t explain why. There was plenty of available credit, and I was up to date on payments.

In any event, I used my card later that day.  My wife used hers in Manitoba a two times... but in the third purchase today it was declined. At a Tim Horton’s half way across the country.

Has anybody else had this happen? Are there other vendors I should avoid with this card?

Before going abroad, you're required to notify your bank otherwise there's a chance they'll view the international payment as suspicious and decline it.

I travel a lot.
It works everywhere else.
Most Canadian banks no longer require reporting.
It’s just at Tim Horton restaurants - the biggest coffee shop chain in Canada.

I travel a lot.
It works everywhere else.
Most Canadian banks no longer require reporting.
It’s just at Tim Horton restaurants - the biggest coffee shop chain in Canada.

In the U.S., a lot of the big chain stores and shops require banks to sign some type of agreement in order to accept their charges.

If Canada works in a similar way, it could be that KEB-Hana failed to sign the agreement with Tim Hortons. So then the business can't recognize that charge card as coming from an accepted or legitimate bank.

Or something.

Sitting in a huge, 3 level coffee shop. One of the few in my city that opens early. 2 other customers in the whole place. Probably 80-100 free seats on this level. I never choose prime seating by the window as they attract the most people. Sitting in peace, mentally preparing myself for the day. Some absolute **** chooses to sit right next to me. Out of the other 100 vacant seats, he has to sit within a meter of me.

No that's not all, this pos starts watching a video on his phone, while not at full volume, still without headphones. And he slurps his drink.

I travel a lot.
It works everywhere else.
Most Canadian banks no longer require reporting.
It’s just at Tim Horton restaurants - the biggest coffee shop chain in Canada.

In the U.S., a lot of the big chain stores and shops require banks to sign some type of agreement in order to accept their charges.

If Canada works in a similar way, it could be that KEB-Hana failed to sign the agreement with Tim Hortons. So then the business can't recognize that charge card as coming from an accepted or legitimate bank.

Or something.

Nope.
If there is a MasterCard sign in the window, they take it. Canada has few large banks, like Korea and unlike the USA with many small banks.
The payment networks (Visa, MasterCard, Interac, Amex, etc) are pretty solid here.
My bank saw the declines, but couldn’t explain why.

Sitting in a huge, 3 level coffee shop. One of the few in my city that opens early. 2 other customers in the whole place. Probably 80-100 free seats on this level. I never choose prime seating by the window as they attract the most people. Sitting in peace, mentally preparing myself for the day. Some absolute **** chooses to sit right next to me. Out of the other 100 vacant seats, he has to sit within a meter of me.

No that's not all, this pos starts watching a video on his phone, while not at full volume, still without headphones. And he slurps his drink.

And you laughed at me for buying traffic cones. Bet you wish you had some now.

Sitting in a huge, 3 level coffee shop. One of the few in my city that opens early. 2 other customers in the whole place. Probably 80-100 free seats on this level. I never choose prime seating by the window as they attract the most people. Sitting in peace, mentally preparing myself for the day. Some absolute **** chooses to sit right next to me. Out of the other 100 vacant seats, he has to sit within a meter of me.

No that's not all, this pos starts watching a video on his phone, while not at full volume, still without headphones. And he slurps his drink.

Haha I feel your pain.  I hate that so much.

I was rewatching There Will be Blood last night and this line really spoke to me..."I want to earn enough money that I can get away from everyone"   

Sitting in a huge, 3 level coffee shop. One of the few in my city that opens early. 2 other customers in the whole place. Probably 80-100 free seats on this level. I never choose prime seating by the window as they attract the most people. Sitting in peace, mentally preparing myself for the day. Some absolute **** chooses to sit right next to me. Out of the other 100 vacant seats, he has to sit within a meter of me.

No that's not all, this pos starts watching a video on his phone, while not at full volume, still without headphones. And he slurps his drink.

I love hearing people's reasons for invading others' personal spaces without having any rhyme or logic to it, haha. What do you think? Maybe it was HIS spot, where he'll sit no matter what's going on as long as it's free. Maybe he was making some weird power play and trying to see if he could get you to move. Or maybe he just really liked the look of you and wanted to be close. ;)

This is like those guys who slide up to use the urinal next to yours, even when there are plenty of other free ones.

Sitting in a huge, 3 level coffee shop. One of the few in my city that opens early. 2 other customers in the whole place. Probably 80-100 free seats on this level. I never choose prime seating by the window as they attract the most people. Sitting in peace, mentally preparing myself for the day. Some absolute **** chooses to sit right next to me. Out of the other 100 vacant seats, he has to sit within a meter of me.

No that's not all, this pos starts watching a video on his phone, while not at full volume, still without headphones. And he slurps his drink.

happens all the time to me too. zero spacial/social awareness. absolute mongs