China now top ESL country?

He didn't mention Hong Kong or Singapore. Two of the best paying countries for TEFL and pretty nice to live in.

This is what makes this forum so valuable.

Wonderful knowledge like Singapore being the best paying country for tefl.

Don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but here's a job I contemplated going for. 7360 Singapore dollars a month, which is over 4 UK grand. Low taxation as well.

https://jobs.britishcouncil.org/Vacancies/W/7814/0/139314/5448/training-consultant-singapore-sng-t-1524?utm_source=external&utm_term=east-asia-singapore-singapore-teaching-centres-teacher-teacher&utm_content=training-consultant-singapore-sng-t-1524&utm_campaign=british-council-recruitment&utm_medium=AtsViewLink

1. China - I'd go to sunny, warm, touristy southern island of Hainan, where there's over 8.5 million people but the island's huge and the air's pretty clean. Google it.

Exactly. Why doesn't it occur to people that pollution levels vary throughout the country and there is quite a variety of environments to choose from?.

6. Taiwan - I'm of mixed minds about the summer typhoons that would rock us pretty much every summer slam on category 2+ (yikes!).

I've arrived at the same hesitation with TW. The air is more polluted than Korea as far as I can tell and this is exacerbated by the greater humidity.

I'm not a big fan of the women there either. Small, arrogant and all they ever think about is eating.


Have you ever considered Peru?

Don't know if you're being sarcastic or not, but here's a job I contemplated going for. 7360 Singapore dollars a month, which is over 4 UK grand.

That's a teacher trainer position. You have a CELTA, DELTA, MATESOL and decades of experience. Who else reading this does? That's a top tier job. Which would exist in any country, seeing as how there are immigrants everywhere? The British Council is everywhere? Seems so. No housing so you need to get it. Singapore's the most expensive place to live in the world.

That's a top tier job

No it isn't, if you look at the advert it's on the same scale as a teacher's salary.  Yes, accommodation would probably cost a third of your salary but you'd still be left with around 2,700 quid a month. A teacher training job in Thailand, for example, would probably pay around 70,000 baht a month (1,600 pounds) without accommodation.

Sure, as I pointed out at the beginning of this thread the list looks like it was designed for North Americans with an online TEFL cert but plenty of people on these boards have more than that.

I would like to try China in the future but the air quality worries me.

Try Singapore then. http://aqicn.org/city/singapore

I left Korea a few years ago after I got tired of all the work related problems I had. Can't believe at one point I accepted having to go into work and sit at my desk just because they wanted us to fulfill our office hours. I moved to China and it's been great. Been here 2 years. I have 3 jobs, and have more time with all those jobs than I did with one job in Korea, and I don't have to worry about getting kicked out for doing illegal side work. . Come to China. Go south if you are worried about pollution. Find a good job before coming. Do your research.

I left Korea a few years ago after I got tired of all the work related problems I had. Can't believe at one point I accepted having to go into work and sit at my desk just because they wanted us to fulfill our office hours. I moved to China and it's been great. Been here 2 years. I have 3 jobs, and have more time with all those jobs than I did with one job in Korea, and I don't have to worry about getting kicked out for doing illegal side work. . Come to China. Go south if you are worried about pollution. Find a good job before coming. Do your research.

I'm finishing up my Master's in ESL in the states. What sort of job would someone with an MA get in China? I know this is a broad question... Previously, I did EPIK for 3 years.

I would like to try China in the future but the air quality worries me.

There are some great places with decent air quality. I'm in Hainan and it is clearly much cleaner than my previous province, Guangdong.

I left Korea a few years ago after I got tired of all the work related problems I had. Can't believe at one point I accepted having to go into work and sit at my desk just because they wanted us to fulfill our office hours. I moved to China and it's been great. Been here 2 years. I have 3 jobs, and have more time with all those jobs than I did with one job in Korea, and I don't have to worry about getting kicked out for doing illegal side work. . Come to China. Go south if you are worried about pollution. Find a good job before coming. Do your research.

You don't have to worry about it, but you should definitely be careful. I knew a few people in Guangzhou that got deported for working illegal side work. The difference I've observed here is that the place employing illegal workers get in the sh*t too, not just the foreigner, so it is in their best interest not to get caught either. Typically, you'd get a phone call telling you to stay home that day because they've been told in advance about an inspection.

I'm finishing up my Master's in ESL in the states. What sort of job would someone with an MA get in China? I know this is a broad question... Previously, I did EPIK for 3 years.

3 years and MA will get you pretty much any standard ESL job (training centre, public school, university) with a small to decent pay bump over your BA-holding colleagues. You'll probably sneak in to some faux-International Schools and you'll have an increased chance at some of the better universities/joint project (in terms of remuneration package) but they typically want EAP experience on top of the MA.

For what it is worth, China has been a great home away from home for me, I've loved most of my 5 years here... but I don't think it is a place to settle down which is why I'll be leaving at the end of my contract.