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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #480 on: October 08, 2015, 05:58:49 pm »
I share an office with 5 co workers.

Lucky you!

 I have only one co-worker. These after-school jobs get dull pretty quickly.
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #481 on: October 08, 2015, 06:45:49 pm »
Browsing Shutterstock for a vector graphic that expresses 'empire' and I came across this:
« Last Edit: October 08, 2015, 10:18:14 pm by Rusty Brown »


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #482 on: October 09, 2015, 12:56:04 pm »
Browsing Shutterstock for a vector graphic that expresses 'empire' and I came across this:
Well, to be fair, Korea WAS part of an empire once upon a time.  :wink:


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #483 on: October 12, 2015, 08:47:56 am »
WE ARE TEACHING ENGLISH!! NOT KOREAN, STOP TRYING TO MAKE ENGLISH KOREAN!!!! WTF ****!!!


Seriously, if you asked me the word for something in English, and then I tell, but it's not what you expected :rolleyes: don't make a ****** cringe face at me and say, "I don't know, that's not what we would say in Korean...." SORRY BITCH, THERE IS NO SPECIAL WORD WE USE!!!!

WHY THE **** do the textbooks constantly teach about Korea, and urinara BS in English? Learn about some western culture using the western language, MAYBE, JUST ****** MAYBE, the kids might find learning a bit more interesting...

OKAY CLASS, TODAY"S VOCABULARY!!! HANGWA, HANBOK, PANSORI, YUNNORI!!!! GOOD ****** JOB!!!!

Stop asking AFTER THE ****** FACT, if you grammar or whatever is correct, or my advice on something, only to say YOU ALREADY ****** TAUGHT IT THE WRONG WAY, SO THAT"S WHAT WE HAVE TO TEACH! It's WRONG you ****** Dimwit!!!!!

"Well, I don't know, are you sure Tom can't be a girls name, because I already made the picture card..." A:JDAKJSDKAJSHDLKJEOJ LDC:SLKJFEOIF


I need one of those Irish horse leg-chopper swords or whatever, so I can end swing along the same plane as the shitty half-wall cubicle dividers and take everyone's head at once!

ARRRRGHHHH!!!
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #484 on: October 12, 2015, 08:57:30 am »
Yes, have a shouting match about garbage at 7am in the morning on a Sunday why don't you. Got my phone out to record it but by the time I did so they stopped.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #485 on: October 12, 2015, 09:23:09 am »
Trim the bushes in the park outside my room at 7:30 with chainsaws on a Sunday morning, went out and they worked for the city council, so didn't give a f***


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #486 on: October 12, 2015, 09:37:06 am »
WE ARE TEACHING ENGLISH!! NOT KOREAN, STOP TRYING TO MAKE ENGLISH KOREAN!!!! WTF ****!!!


Seriously, if you asked me the word for something in English, and then I tell, but it's not what you expected :rolleyes: don't make a ****** cringe face at me and say, "I don't know, that's not what we would say in Korean...." SORRY BITCH, THERE IS NO SPECIAL WORD WE USE!!!!

WHY THE **** do the textbooks constantly teach about Korea, and urinara BS in English? Learn about some western culture using the western language, MAYBE, JUST ****** MAYBE, the kids might find learning a bit more interesting...

OKAY CLASS, TODAY"S VOCABULARY!!! HANGWA, HANBOK, PANSORI, YUNNORI!!!! GOOD ****** JOB!!!!

Stop asking AFTER THE ****** FACT, if you grammar or whatever is correct, or my advice on something, only to say YOU ALREADY ****** TAUGHT IT THE WRONG WAY, SO THAT"S WHAT WE HAVE TO TEACH! It's WRONG you ****** Dimwit!!!!!

"Well, I don't know, are you sure Tom can't be a girls name, because I already made the picture card..." A:JDAKJSDKAJSHDLKJEOJ LDC:SLKJFEOIF


I need one of those Irish horse leg-chopper swords or whatever, so I can end swing along the same plane as the shitty half-wall cubicle dividers and take everyone's head at once!

ARRRRGHHHH!!!
You need a vacation it seems. 
I know its easier said than done, but don't let it get to you. Yes its bullshit. The textbooks are dumb and the co-teachers are dumber. We all know it. Maybe you should try to get a job teaching older kids or adults where you don't have to use a textbook and get to do things all your way. 


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #487 on: October 12, 2015, 09:40:47 am »
WE ARE TEACHING ENGLISH!! NOT KOREAN, STOP TRYING TO MAKE ENGLISH KOREAN!!!! WTF ****!!!


Seriously, if you asked me the word for something in English, and then I tell, but it's not what you expected :rolleyes: don't make a ****** cringe face at me and say, "I don't know, that's not what we would say in Korean...." SORRY BITCH, THERE IS NO SPECIAL WORD WE USE!!!!

WHY THE **** do the textbooks constantly teach about Korea, and urinara BS in English? Learn about some western culture using the western language, MAYBE, JUST ****** MAYBE, the kids might find learning a bit more interesting...

OKAY CLASS, TODAY"S VOCABULARY!!! HANGWA, HANBOK, PANSORI, YUNNORI!!!! GOOD ****** JOB!!!!

Stop asking AFTER THE ****** FACT, if you grammar or whatever is correct, or my advice on something, only to say YOU ALREADY ****** TAUGHT IT THE WRONG WAY, SO THAT"S WHAT WE HAVE TO TEACH! It's WRONG you ****** Dimwit!!!!!

"Well, I don't know, are you sure Tom can't be a girls name, because I already made the picture card..." A:JDAKJSDKAJSHDLKJEOJ LDC:SLKJFEOIF


I need one of those Irish horse leg-chopper swords or whatever, so I can end swing along the same plane as the shitty half-wall cubicle dividers and take everyone's head at once!

ARRRRGHHHH!!!

At my first hagwon, we had some writing assignments and the kids would ask for the most specific instances. "Teacher, what's the word for when you forgot to do your homework and then your dad gets angry and doesn't give you dessert?"

There's no word for that. You just have to write it exactly like you just described it to me.

"Teacher, I'm pretty sure there's a word for that. There's one in Korean."

Then they look at you like your English sucks because you don't know the word.

Oi vey.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #488 on: October 12, 2015, 01:35:36 pm »
WE ARE TEACHING ENGLISH!! NOT KOREAN, STOP TRYING TO MAKE ENGLISH KOREAN!!!! WTF ****!!!


Seriously, if you asked me the word for something in English, and then I tell, but it's not what you expected :rolleyes: don't make a ****** cringe face at me and say, "I don't know, that's not what we would say in Korean...." SORRY BITCH, THERE IS NO SPECIAL WORD WE USE!!!!

WHY THE **** do the textbooks constantly teach about Korea, and urinara BS in English? Learn about some western culture using the western language, MAYBE, JUST ****** MAYBE, the kids might find learning a bit more interesting...

OKAY CLASS, TODAY"S VOCABULARY!!! HANGWA, HANBOK, PANSORI, YUNNORI!!!! GOOD ****** JOB!!!!

Stop asking AFTER THE ****** FACT, if you grammar or whatever is correct, or my advice on something, only to say YOU ALREADY ****** TAUGHT IT THE WRONG WAY, SO THAT"S WHAT WE HAVE TO TEACH! It's WRONG you ****** Dimwit!!!!!

"Well, I don't know, are you sure Tom can't be a girls name, because I already made the picture card..." A:JDAKJSDKAJSHDLKJEOJ LDC:SLKJFEOIF


I need one of those Irish horse leg-chopper swords or whatever, so I can end swing along the same plane as the shitty half-wall cubicle dividers and take everyone's head at once!

ARRRRGHHHH!!!

'Teacher, please teach us in Hangul.'


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #489 on: October 12, 2015, 02:15:08 pm »


At my first hagwon, we had some writing assignments and the kids would ask for the most specific instances. "Teacher, what's the word for when you forgot to do your homework and then your dad gets angry and doesn't give you dessert?"

There's no word for that. You just have to write it exactly like you just described it to me.

"Teacher, I'm pretty sure there's a word for that. There's one in Korean."

Then they look at you like your English sucks because you don't know the word.

Oi vey.
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Did they mean "punishment"?


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #490 on: October 12, 2015, 03:20:22 pm »
Today I played a game with my students that involved answering questions for which they were rewarded with points, or given a challenge to complete. I tried to make the challenges easy and/or goofy, to keep things light and not make things too hard.

One of the challenges was to sing the ABC song. Easy peasy, right? After all, the class in question was a middle school 3rd grade class. Surely after seven years of English education, they'll all be able to sing the ABC song.

Oh ho ho, Mister Tim, not so fast! One mustn't make such assumptions!

On the team that received that particular challenge, every single student was either unable to correctly sing (or even just recite) the entire alphabet, or completely unwilling to sing because they're too cool for that sort of thing.

I'd even have settled for a terribly sung konglish version, with its Eppoos, Aychees, and Bwees, but it was not to be.

Sigh.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #491 on: October 12, 2015, 03:59:39 pm »
Today I played a game with my students that involved answering questions for which they were rewarded with points, or given a challenge to complete. I tried to make the challenges easy and/or goofy, to keep things light and not make things too hard.

One of the challenges was to sing the ABC song. Easy peasy, right? After all, the class in question was a middle school 3rd grade class. Surely after seven years of English education, they'll all be able to sing the ABC song.

Oh ho ho, Mister Tim, not so fast! One mustn't make such assumptions!

On the team that received that particular challenge, every single student was either unable to correctly sing (or even just recite) the entire alphabet, or completely unwilling to sing because they're too cool for that sort of thing.

I'd even have settled for a terribly sung konglish version, with its Eppoos, Aychees, and Bwees, but it was not to be.

Sigh.

you thought it was a good idea to make 14 year olds sing the ABC song in front of the entire class?

Have you NEVER been a teenager before? It baffling how you thought this was a good idea. Some students might be incredibly shy, others are OF COURSE too cool to sing the ****** ABCs in front of the class.

Next time, you might as well have them show the whole class they know the time song! Or perhaps even something simpler and have them touch their toesies with their hands!
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #492 on: October 12, 2015, 05:04:04 pm »
Today I played a game with my students that involved answering questions for which they were rewarded with points, or given a challenge to complete. I tried to make the challenges easy and/or goofy, to keep things light and not make things too hard.

One of the challenges was to sing the ABC song. Easy peasy, right? After all, the class in question was a middle school 3rd grade class. Surely after seven years of English education, they'll all be able to sing the ABC song.

Oh ho ho, Mister Tim, not so fast! One mustn't make such assumptions!

On the team that received that particular challenge, every single student was either unable to correctly sing (or even just recite) the entire alphabet, or completely unwilling to sing because they're too cool for that sort of thing.

I'd even have settled for a terribly sung konglish version, with its Eppoos, Aychees, and Bwees, but it was not to be.

Sigh.

you thought it was a good idea to make 14 year olds sing the ABC song in front of the entire class?

Have you NEVER been a teenager before? It baffling how you thought this was a good idea. Some students might be incredibly shy, others are OF COURSE too cool to sing the ****** ABCs in front of the class.

Next time, you might as well have them show the whole class they know the time song! Or perhaps even something simpler and have them touch their toesies with their hands!

Really, it baffles you? It just BLOWS YOUR MIND that I might expect that, given a group of eleven students, one of them would have both the ability and the testicular fortitude to sing a silly song? When you were a high school freshman, if and your team had to sing Row Row Row Your Boat to earn your team some points for a competitive game, you think nobody would've done it?

The point was that it was a simple, goofy challenge. You know, like I said in the post you quoted. It was supposed to be a little embarrassing and silly. They weren't all too cool or shy for it, but the ones who were "brave" enough for it didn't know their friggin' ABCs. There were even students on the other teams who started singing it to try to encourage the shy kids on that team, and to help them remember the "words."

So yeah, I expected that at least one student in each group would have balls and know their ABCs. Yes, I though it was a good idea. It thought it'd be silly and fun. If that "baffles" you, then I can say with certainty I'd never want to be in the same room as you during a party.

EDITED to remove unnecessary hostility.
« Last Edit: October 12, 2015, 05:52:42 pm by Mister Tim »


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #493 on: October 13, 2015, 07:41:46 am »
Korea you will pay. I will scourge your land. I will turn your cities to ashes, I will sow your fields with salts. I am rage. I am fury. I am wroth!!!

Anyways, I came in today full of joy and vigour. There is a cold snap in the air, my breath is visible, the sun is shining and nature is readying its fireworks display for us. This was going to be a good day. No. A fine day.

But then my school decided to murder my happiness. They were playing with the fire alarms yesterday with concomitant noise. That's fine. I also happily accept that it has took them a day to do what should take 10 minutes. I understand their unique laziness/incompetence. When in Rome, watch in bemusement as the Romans cock up simple tasks

Here's the fun bit. The speakers have been left turned on. Being honest, made-on-the-Han electronic goods they emit a low dull hum. It's kind of rare back home unless you know someone who has built their stereo system form scratch. It's the kind of background noise problem Blaupunkt had solved by the seventies. It's like being in a tiny room with an old fridge. It's driving me insane. I'm not sure I can take a whole day of this.

What makes me even more pissed off is the obliviousness of the natives. For the first time ever I wish I had a Korean upbringing. Maybe if I had spent my days yelling at and being yelled at by the people that supposedly loved me I wouldn't care. Maybe if I thought the role of a dog was to bark in anger and pain all night in my yard I could ignore the sound. Maybe if I believed a tedious message repeating the price of fish on a loop for 6 hours is good advertising I would be able to blank out the dreaded hum. Maybe if I thought it was normal for a supermarket to employ someone to shout at me I could get through today without thoughts of genocide.

But no. I was raised in a civilised country, a real country by parents who actually had some emotional connection with me and surrounded by people who showed no hostility unless necessary. Woe is me!

There's always fire. Pretty, pretty fire.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #494 on: October 13, 2015, 07:46:58 am »
... I am rage. I am fury. I am wroth!!!... The speakers have been left turned on... they emit a low dull hum... Woe is me!

There's always fire. Pretty, pretty fire.
If your case follows the general way in which these kind of things progress, by the end of the week you should be hearing voices whispering to you from somewhere deep inside the hum. A week after that, well...
... I'll be watching the front page of the local rags.  :smiley:


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #495 on: October 13, 2015, 07:54:07 am »
Today I played a game with my students that involved answering questions for which they were rewarded with points, or given a challenge to complete. I tried to make the challenges easy and/or goofy, to keep things light and not make things too hard.

One of the challenges was to sing the ABC song. Easy peasy, right? After all, the class in question was a middle school 3rd grade class. Surely after seven years of English education, they'll all be able to sing the ABC song.

Oh ho ho, Mister Tim, not so fast! One mustn't make such assumptions!

On the team that received that particular challenge, every single student was either unable to correctly sing (or even just recite) the entire alphabet, or completely unwilling to sing because they're too cool for that sort of thing.

I'd even have settled for a terribly sung konglish version, with its Eppoos, Aychees, and Bwees, but it was not to be.

Sigh.

you thought it was a good idea to make 14 year olds sing the ABC song in front of the entire class?

Have you NEVER been a teenager before? It baffling how you thought this was a good idea. Some students might be incredibly shy, others are OF COURSE too cool to sing the ****** ABCs in front of the class.

Next time, you might as well have them show the whole class they know the time song! Or perhaps even something simpler and have them touch their toesies with their hands!

Really, it baffles you? It just BLOWS YOUR MIND that I might expect that, given a group of eleven students, one of them would have both the ability and the testicular fortitude to sing a silly song? When you were a high school freshman, if and your team had to sing Row Row Row Your Boat to earn your team some points for a competitive game, you think nobody would've done it?

The point was that it was a simple, goofy challenge. You know, like I said in the post you quoted. It was supposed to be a little embarrassing and silly. They weren't all too cool or shy for it, but the ones who were "brave" enough for it didn't know their friggin' ABCs. There were even students on the other teams who started singing it to try to encourage the shy kids on that team, and to help them remember the "words."

So yeah, I expected that at least one student in each group would have balls and know their ABCs. Yes, I though it was a good idea. It thought it'd be silly and fun. If that "baffles" you, then I can say with certainty I'd never want to be in the same room as you during a party.

EDITED to remove unnecessary hostility.

I am thinking back to high school Spanish. I'm not sure I would have been able to sing the Spanish alphabet. I would not have been too shy. And it's not because I can't Spanish.

I feel like knowing their ABCs and being able to recite them in song are not the same thing. I wouldn't worry about that so much.

It is lame if they just didn't want to try, though.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #496 on: October 13, 2015, 07:57:19 am »
Today I played a game with my students that involved answering questions for which they were rewarded with points, or given a challenge to complete. I tried to make the challenges easy and/or goofy, to keep things light and not make things too hard.

One of the challenges was to sing the ABC song. Easy peasy, right? After all, the class in question was a middle school 3rd grade class. Surely after seven years of English education, they'll all be able to sing the ABC song.

Oh ho ho, Mister Tim, not so fast! One mustn't make such assumptions!

On the team that received that particular challenge, every single student was either unable to correctly sing (or even just recite) the entire alphabet, or completely unwilling to sing because they're too cool for that sort of thing.

I'd even have settled for a terribly sung konglish version, with its Eppoos, Aychees, and Bwees, but it was not to be.

Sigh.

you thought it was a good idea to make 14 year olds sing the ABC song in front of the entire class?

Have you NEVER been a teenager before? It baffling how you thought this was a good idea. Some students might be incredibly shy, others are OF COURSE too cool to sing the ****** ABCs in front of the class.

Next time, you might as well have them show the whole class they know the time song! Or perhaps even something simpler and have them touch their toesies with their hands!

How can you "never" be a teenager?

I was a teenager, and I would have recited them just so I didn't look like the dumbass who didn't know.

I remember singing vocabulary (I think body parts/parts of the cell or whatever) to the same melody as nursery rhymes to remember as a freshman.


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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #497 on: October 13, 2015, 07:58:23 am »
Quote
you thought it was a good idea to make 14 year olds sing the ABC song in front of the entire class?

Have you NEVER been a teenager before? It baffling how you thought this was a good idea. Some students might be incredibly shy, others are OF COURSE too cool to sing the ****** ABCs in front of the class.

Next time, you might as well have them show the whole class they know the time song! Or perhaps even something simpler and have them touch their toesies with their hands!

Really, it baffles you? It just BLOWS YOUR MIND that I might expect that, given a group of eleven students, one of them would have both the ability and the testicular fortitude to sing a silly song? When you were a high school freshman, if and your team had to sing Row Row Row Your Boat to earn your team some points for a competitive game, you think nobody would've done it?

The point was that it was a simple, goofy challenge. You know, like I said in the post you quoted. It was supposed to be a little embarrassing and silly. They weren't all too cool or shy for it, but the ones who were "brave" enough for it didn't know their friggin' ABCs. There were even students on the other teams who started singing it to try to encourage the shy kids on that team, and to help them remember the "words."

So yeah, I expected that at least one student in each group would have balls and know their ABCs. Yes, I though it was a good idea. It thought it'd be silly and fun. If that "baffles" you, then I can say with certainty I'd never want to be in the same room as you during a party.

EDITED to remove unnecessary hostility.

Buddy, if you think a party is the same as class, then you are either completely delirious or way too confident in your ability as a teacher. But from your response, I gather that you'd like it if you went to work while all the teachers are teaching, and they ask you to do the most mundane tests. Then when you finish, they give you a pat on the head, a belly rub, and tell you what a good boy you are.  Skill level proficiency is not equivalent to maturity. I also wouldn't ask a group of corporate adult EFL students to sing the god damn ABCs. Your intentions are that of goofy doesn't mean it was interpreted that way. .

I also wonder whether or not the group just stayed quiet the ENTIRE class, or they answered other questions.

edit: if I had the question in school, I'd say it, not sing it. If it wouldn't get me in trouble, I would tell my teacher how stupid does he think I am that I don't know my damn abcs at 14, which would then land me in detention so I wouldn't say that (out loud).
« Last Edit: October 13, 2015, 08:01:34 am by richardtang1991 »
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #498 on: October 13, 2015, 08:01:39 am »
Quote
you thought it was a good idea to make 14 year olds sing the ABC song in front of the entire class?

Have you NEVER been a teenager before? It baffling how you thought this was a good idea. Some students might be incredibly shy, others are OF COURSE too cool to sing the ****** ABCs in front of the class.

Next time, you might as well have them show the whole class they know the time song! Or perhaps even something simpler and have them touch their toesies with their hands!

Really, it baffles you? It just BLOWS YOUR MIND that I might expect that, given a group of eleven students, one of them would have both the ability and the testicular fortitude to sing a silly song? When you were a high school freshman, if and your team had to sing Row Row Row Your Boat to earn your team some points for a competitive game, you think nobody would've done it?

The point was that it was a simple, goofy challenge. You know, like I said in the post you quoted. It was supposed to be a little embarrassing and silly. They weren't all too cool or shy for it, but the ones who were "brave" enough for it didn't know their friggin' ABCs. There were even students on the other teams who started singing it to try to encourage the shy kids on that team, and to help them remember the "words."

So yeah, I expected that at least one student in each group would have balls and know their ABCs. Yes, I though it was a good idea. It thought it'd be silly and fun. If that "baffles" you, then I can say with certainty I'd never want to be in the same room as you during a party.

EDITED to remove unnecessary hostility.

Buddy, if you think a party is the same as class, then you are either completely delirious or way too confident in your ability as a teacher. But from your response, I gather that you'd like it if you went to work while all the teachers are teaching, and they ask you to do the most mundane tests. Then when you finish, they give you a pat on the head, a belly rub, and tell you what a good boy you are.  Skill level proficiency is not equivalent to maturity. I also wouldn't ask a group of corporate adult EFL students to sing the god damn ABCs. Your intentions are that of goofy doesn't mean it was interpreted that way. .

I also wonder whether or not the group just stayed quiet the ENTIRE class, or they answered other questions.

Richard is obviously too cool for the ABC's....
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