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  • The Legend

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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #120 on: July 15, 2015, 12:53:04 pm »
Trying to do the right thing an upload my complete camp for all y'all f***ers and waygook keeps throwing me out.

About to say **** it.

Meh, **** it brah. don't think any of us 'f***ers' need or want your complete camp.

Meh, **** you, Brah.


  • jomi
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #121 on: July 15, 2015, 12:56:37 pm »
Dear First-Year-Out-Of-Uni 5th grade co-teacher,

Ignoring the autistic child in the class is not the correct way to deal with an autistic child. I am also not qualified in SEN teaching and I cannot communicate with him because YOU DON'T DO YOUR JOB. Your job in the classes I lead is to assist me is classroom management, translate instructions if a significant portion of the class don't understand and help the lower ability/SEN children during tasks on a one-to-one basis with the child most in need. You don't do this. You don't translated at all in any class no matter how much the kids blatantly don't understand. You don't go around the classroom and sit with a child that is struggling and the whole attitude towards the autistic boy is to give him a book to read even though he has told you he wants to join in and try learning English. I cannot communicate with him, you saying you don't know how to deal with him honestly isn't much of an excuse it's your job to try. The only resources I have for autistic children are in English and are mostly based on the school day of a British school and are anger management related. If I try to use these I'm overstepping my role as the NET. This is something YOU need to talk about with his homeroom teacher and the SEN teacher because doing nothing is not helping him. Of course he is disruptive in class.
And as much as you should be understanding of his behavior because he is autistic and is a few stages behind his class mates when it comes to maturity, his hitting you (a teacher) is not something to let slide. The class is suffering because you're telling me to just carry on teaching while he is screaming and fighting you and drawing on the whiteboard and children tend to watch the distraction and not the teacher.

Also the low level, straight up lazy boy in another class... You can't allow him to continue just sitting there and spacing out not doing anything. The reason he doesn't even know the alphabet is because of korean teachers letting him just sit there and do nothing. When I'm trying to help him with the simple textbook writing task 1) I'm doing your job 2) Telling me to STOP because 'he finds English hard' is not the response you should have. If I have to sit one-to-one with him and go through a key expression in Korean to help him learn the smallest amount of English that is what I'm going to do. You can't just ignore the children that find it hard and let them doodle all lesson.
And frankly he is lazy and has no motivation. He needs you to assist in the class and force him to work. I can deal with other kids in the class myself.

It drives me nuts how Korean teachers let kids get away with being lazy and rude. This kid is NEVER prepared for class. When told to quickly get his book he deliberately started walking in slow motion with is disrespecting the teacher and she just IGNORED it. He sits there doing nothing complaining he's bored and she does NOTHING.

Do your job for crying out loud.


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  • The Legend

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    • May 09, 2012, 10:11:12 pm
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #122 on: July 15, 2015, 12:57:54 pm »
Trying to do the right thing an upload my complete camp for all y'all f***ers and waygook keeps throwing me out.

About to say **** it.

Meh, **** it brah. don't think any of us 'f***ers' need or want your complete camp.

Meh, **** you, Brah.

Double **** you, Brah. Looks like it worked.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #123 on: July 15, 2015, 01:03:26 pm »

Meh, **** you, Brah.

Double **** you, Brah. Looks like it worked.

Stay classy, brah.



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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #124 on: July 15, 2015, 01:07:05 pm »


  • The Arm
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    • March 09, 2015, 09:15:02 am
Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #125 on: July 15, 2015, 01:28:51 pm »
Hearing my name over and over in conversations in the office.  After they've finished talking, no one has the courtesy to tell me what they were talking about.

When I ask; "oh it's nothing".

Does this annoy anyone else? 

It's so rude in my opinion.  If it's a short chat then fair enough but when I hear my name over and over again in a five minute conversation and then get no explanation, it really winds me up.


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #126 on: July 15, 2015, 01:33:32 pm »
I made a thread about this last year, but it still bothers me:

WHY THE HELL ARE WE EATING BOILING HOT SOUP IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER?????


  • The Arm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #127 on: July 15, 2015, 01:38:13 pm »
Ignoring the autistic child in the class is not the correct way to deal with an autistic child.

Do your job for crying out loud.

SO with you on this.  I'm often left open mouthed at how special needs students are treated in my school.  Usually just ignored by my CTs even though they've demonstrated their eagerness to learn English.  My CTs mostly tell me to not include them in any activities which is ridiculous.

Once during a writing activity a SN student was struggling and my CT appeared to be helping him.  She called me over and said "The Arm, watch this".  She then told the student to write a word which he couldn't spell.  She started laughing then she smugly looked at me and walked off.

I hate her so much.


  • krissyboo75
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #128 on: July 15, 2015, 01:41:20 pm »
I made a thread about this last year, but it still bothers me:

WHY THE HELL ARE WE EATING BOILING HOT SOUP IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER?????

"Because it is good for our health" or something like that


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #129 on: July 15, 2015, 01:42:19 pm »
Ignoring the autistic child in the class is not the correct way to deal with an autistic child.

Do your job for crying out loud.

Yeah, mine won't let me talk to the special needs students. Like I am actually not allowed to speak to them because speaking to a foreigner is too scary. They also accused one boy of being a child molester because he told a classmate that he saw a porno.


I hate that I have to post in here a second time today.

I'm happy the second and third graders love me. I'm not happy that they just decided to show their love by grabbing an arm each and yanking on my wrists (I broke one of them badly and it's weak), kicking me in the shins, dragging me to the stairs and pushing me so I fall down,and then jumping in my lap for hugs. Oh, and slapping my arm hard so they can get in for another hug.

WHILE THEIR AFTERSCHOOL TEACHER WATCHED. "Oh, how cute! They very love you!" GET THE HELL IN HERE AND HELP ME, YOU TWIT!


  • mr
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    • October 31, 2012, 07:47:33 am
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #130 on: July 15, 2015, 02:02:10 pm »
Having to submit a "plan" for what I'll do on my vacation...where will you go? ...what activities will you do there?...who is paying for your vacation?... where did you vacation for the last 2 years and what did you do there?
What I do during my free time and vacation has NOTHING to do with anyone and I don't see the need to officially document it...very big brother


  • CO2
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    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #131 on: July 15, 2015, 02:17:29 pm »
Having to submit a "plan" for what I'll do on my vacation...where will you go? ...what activities will you do there?...who is paying for your vacation?... where did you vacation for the last 2 years and what did you do there?
What I do during my free time and vacation has NOTHING to do with anyone and I don't see the need to officially document it...very big brother

Yeah, I was asked this too. Very bizarre. My dad told me when I was young. "Son, never work for free." It's a good quote on its own, and I adhere to it. But it also symbolizes, "Keep your work and your life seperate." I like my job, I do. But at the end of it, it's there to pay my way through life. Once 4:40 hits, I'm gone. I don't bring documents home with me, and I don't plan out lessons at home.

It's reminiscent of when the hagwons said that their teachers couldn't go to Itaewon due to SARS or some such nonsense. It's BS. When I leave that door at 4:40, that's a different person. That's my time. Like the Goonies. "Up there, it's their time. But down here, that's our time, OUR TIME."
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DO NOT UNPLUG


  • sweetkat
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #132 on: July 15, 2015, 02:22:31 pm »
there si a special needs boy here.  And i see him often abused and misunderstood by his teacher and his peers.  THis year they allowed him to be in my afterschool class. I chose love over impatience.  I got through to him. his mother was at my open class and told me that he loves me.   BUt of course, my position has been eliminated.  I will miss him so very much. 

in another direction.....would you stay and take a hagwon position after being in public elementary school after 8 years?  lose medical, lose pension, lose vacation and 500,000 won?  Oh and without a reference because the school i have been at the longest won't give me a point of contact as a reference because they aren't my main school.  And my main coteacher at my main school, is a liar who I wouldn't trust anything with, who is the most controlling exaggerating, angry woman i have met in Korea.  I am known in the city to be a very good teacher. But i have to rely on her to give me a reference...so I won't. 

I wasn't ready to leave. I love my school, I love my students. My new coteacher has helped me be more ready to leave and now the other school, their lack of willingnesss to help me has cemented my decision that Korea is not for me any more.  problem is..i am married and my husband has his dream job. I will not surrender to a prison that is a hagwon but my husband is only pacifying me by saying he would consider moving away with me.

I think there is a better country out there for me. Maybe less pay, but lower standard of living, more vacation and less working hours.  I want ot choose this option..but the problem is my husband and me..my job is the only thing that has made me happy here>  and now its gone i have no reason for staying except for my husband's happiness.

but i have been working for 25 years...since i was fifteen.  I have never been unemployed. i have no idea how to be unemployed. And i have just over two months to figure out what i am going to do next.

But one thing I have decided on...is my goodbye song to Korea.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AVOpNR2PIs


  • AndyKanerva
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #133 on: July 15, 2015, 02:29:50 pm »
Ignoring the autistic child in the class is not the correct way to deal with an autistic child.

Do your job for crying out loud.

Yeah, mine won't let me talk to the special needs students. Like I am actually not allowed to speak to them because speaking to a foreigner is too scary. They also accused one boy of being a child molester because he told a classmate that he saw a porno.


I hate that I have to post in here a second time today.

I'm happy the second and third graders love me. I'm not happy that they just decided to show their love by grabbing an arm each and yanking on my wrists (I broke one of them badly and it's weak), kicking me in the shins, dragging me to the stairs and pushing me so I fall down,and then jumping in my lap for hugs. Oh, and slapping my arm hard so they can get in for another hug.

WHILE THEIR AFTERSCHOOL TEACHER WATCHED. "Oh, how cute! They very love you!" GET THE HELL IN HERE AND HELP ME, YOU TWIT!
From other posts I have deduced you are a lady, so just count your blessings you don't have the strongest kindergartners punching your nuts at every chance they get. My first ever day of teaching involved my nuts getting slammed by the chubbiest girl in class.
Main thing is, no one can protect you but yourself. You've gotta stop them before they start!


Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #134 on: July 15, 2015, 02:37:48 pm »
I've taught several autistic kids, some are great and wonderful, some would rather not participate and the few which are severe cases, we try our best to keep busy so they don't disrupt the classes. (it can be quite a shocking thing to see a sixth grade boy leap up and start screaming while hitting his head.)

My opinion is try and go for any small success with them, don't get upset they aren't up to date with the rest of the class, be happy if they try to speak whatever English they have with you. I have one girl with down syndrome, very lovely and likes to hug. She doesn't have much in the way of English but will try hard and likes to use sentences she's familiar with like "What do you want to be?" I think we've had that conversation a hundred times, but I'm happy to go through it with her because she's getting the confidence to try and at the end of the day isn't that what we're trying to give the kids, the confidence to speak English and just try it.

In my books the biggest failures and those I find intolerable are not those who tried and failed or got it wrong (they I applaud for the efforts), but those who refuse to even try in the first place.


  • Mister Tim
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    • September 08, 2013, 10:33:54 am
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #135 on: July 15, 2015, 02:45:16 pm »
Apparently not only will I be changing schools in the middle of the year, I'll be changing from elementary to middle school. For the three and a half years I've been here so far, I've only ever taught at elementary schools. I have zero experience teaching middle schools, so I don't know why they've chosen me of all people as the person to make this move. I can only assume it was either arbitrary, or they heard I'm good at my job at the elementary school and assume the skills will translate. Even if the former was the impetus, I really hope the latter is true.

Now that my anger and frustration at the situation have had time to simmer down, a bit of nervousness is starting to rise to the top. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say they prefer middle school, and I've heard countless horror stories. My main school will be the largest middle school in the area, so I'll be going from elementary schools with no more than 70 students total, to a school that's probably larger than all the schools I've worked at in the past combined. I'll be going from small class sizes with little kids to large classes with pubescent teens and preteens. Ugh.


  • krissyboo75
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #136 on: July 15, 2015, 03:00:21 pm »
Apparently not only will I be changing schools in the middle of the year, I'll be changing from elementary to middle school. For the three and a half years I've been here so far, I've only ever taught at elementary schools. I have zero experience teaching middle schools, so I don't know why they've chosen me of all people as the person to make this move. I can only assume it was either arbitrary, or they heard I'm good at my job at the elementary school and assume the skills will translate. Even if the former was the impetus, I really hope the latter is true.

Now that my anger and frustration at the situation have had time to simmer down, a bit of nervousness is starting to rise to the top. I don't think I've ever heard anyone say they prefer middle school, and I've heard countless horror stories. My main school will be the largest middle school in the area, so I'll be going from elementary schools with no more than 70 students total, to a school that's probably larger than all the schools I've worked at in the past combined. I'll be going from small class sizes with little kids to large classes with pubescent teens and preteens. Ugh.

I'd trade you any day.  I switched to elementary and middle school after working for 3 years at a boys high school. I don't enjoy elementary school. My middle school is my breath of fresh air.  Is it boys or girls. If its boys, or even mixed you should be fine. The girls can be horrible. 


  • yfb
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #137 on: July 15, 2015, 03:15:17 pm »
I have two kids in one of my classes who are fraternal twins. The sister is smart in English and miles ahead of anyone else in class. The brother is the polar opposite. He speaks maybe 30 words of English and has a speech impediment and I think mild autism and a massive inferiority complex. He melts down at the slightest challenge. Like if he can't spell a word we're studying, it's the end of the world for him and he'll rock his chair, kick the table, whine, shout, cry, and complain despite all my attempts to calm him down and practice with him. The CT does help out though so that's nice.

The thing with this pair is that they CANNOT BE HAPPY AT THE SAME TIME. If I try to help the brother out, the sister gets mad and sulks for the rest of class and mumbles her answers. If I help the sister, the brother whines and cries and rages for the rest of class. Absolutely nutty. Just this past class we were doing a word search and he had a meltdown because he didn't know how to do a word search and my explanations weren't helping. I call the CT over, the CT explains how to do a word search, and he calms down with me helping him. Strange.


  • tamjen
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #138 on: July 15, 2015, 03:22:07 pm »
I made a thread about this last year, but it still bothers me:

WHY THE HELL ARE WE EATING BOILING HOT SOUP IN THE MIDDLE OF SUMMER?????

Wait a minute! You have hot soup? That's cool. I have never had hot soup at school. And I mean never. Luke warm to medium is the best we are ever served.

Jealous...
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Re: RANTING/VENTING MEGATHREAD
« Reply #139 on: July 15, 2015, 04:30:38 pm »
I swear to god, people. I swear to f-ing god.

I came in this morning to a long, angry screed about how I am wasteful and "hurt earth" because I apparently leave the lights on when I'm not in my classroom (I don't, except if I'm just running to the bathroom) and I use the air conditioning too much (I have used it ONCE, for TWO HOURS).

I'm guessing this will be yet another attempt by my school to not pay me in full because I am "using too much electricity" and have to pay for it. So now I get to wait for that shoe to drop.

I HATE IT HERE AND I DON'T CARE IF SAYING THAT MAKES ANYONE MAD.

Apparently, and I just heard this today, coincidentally, government buildings (my school included) are heavily fined for misusing electricity/aircon, etc. If no one is in the room, the power has to be off OR people can actually report the building and--get this--get a reward for it!! So there are actually people wandering schools and govt offices (creepy much?) peeking into unused rooms to see if there is electricity on to try and get money for it.
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