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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6420 on: April 09, 2019, 03:27:02 pm »
flash forward to present day - i get up at 5am every morning, make a cup of coffee, and bring it downstairs to the smoking area outside so i can rip a heater to start my day.

Your wife makes you fart outside?


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6421 on: April 09, 2019, 03:40:00 pm »
flash forward to present day - i get up at 5am every morning, make a cup of coffee, and bring it downstairs to the smoking area outside so i can rip a heater to start my day.

Your wife makes you fart outside?

Lol nah just don't wanna stink up our place with cigs
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6422 on: April 09, 2019, 03:53:28 pm »
i make it a point to say good morning and ask him where he's going EVERY MORNING. at first he didn't say sht but now he just hits me with a head nod or a quick hello. i actually kinda feel bad because i'm doing it to be a dick but we might be bros now...im not sure. i'll keep you guys updated.
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 i see a bromance on the horizon.  let us know if it escalates and how your holiday together on Jeju goes. 


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6423 on: April 15, 2019, 02:10:34 pm »
Can anyone recommend a decent home air freshner/diffuser?  Any that you swear by?

I've tried so many different diffusers but the scent fades after about a day.  I'd love to have fresh flowers all the time but I'd have to take out a sizeable loan to finance that lol.

Links welcome!


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6424 on: April 15, 2019, 02:47:51 pm »
Can anyone recommend a decent home air freshner/diffuser?  Any that you swear by?

I've tried so many different diffusers but the scent fades after about a day.  I'd love to have fresh flowers all the time but I'd have to take out a sizeable loan to finance that lol.

Links welcome!
Our apartment complex currently has a few dozen blooming lilac bushes in the park/walkway between the lobby and the parkade.
I just steal a few sprigs of that everyday for the table. The azaleas are coming into bloom now as well, so their stolen corpses will be decorating my table soon as well!  ;D


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6425 on: April 15, 2019, 03:26:06 pm »
Can anyone recommend a decent home air freshner/diffuser?  Any that you swear by?

I've tried so many different diffusers but the scent fades after about a day.  I'd love to have fresh flowers all the time but I'd have to take out a sizeable loan to finance that lol.

Links welcome!

This is coming from someone who is obsessed with no smells or smelling pleasant which includes my flat. I use an automatic air freshener from Daiso, the refills cost about 2000 won but it lasts me quite a while. The air freshener goes off every 9 minute which is nice. If I want something stronger, those Yankee candles are hella strong. I bought one of the big sizes and light it up every day after making food, place smells like midsummers night dream every night haha!
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6426 on: April 15, 2019, 04:15:03 pm »
Can anyone recommend a decent home air freshner/diffuser?  Any that you swear by?

I've tried so many different diffusers but the scent fades after about a day.  I'd love to have fresh flowers all the time but I'd have to take out a sizeable loan to finance that lol.

Links welcome!

This is coming from someone who is obsessed with no smells or smelling pleasant which includes my flat. I use an automatic air freshener from Daiso, the refills cost about 2000 won but it lasts me quite a while. The air freshener goes off every 9 minute which is nice. If I want something stronger, those Yankee candles are hella strong. I bought one of the big sizes and light it up every day after making food, place smells like midsummers night dream every night haha!

I was always a bit hesitant to try the automatic ones but I'll definitely give them a go now!  Thank you.

Our apartment complex currently has a few dozen blooming lilac bushes in the park/walkway between the lobby and the parkade.
I just steal a few sprigs of that everyday for the table. The azaleas are coming into bloom now as well, so their stolen corpses will be decorating my table soon as well!  ;D

Haha that is a brilliant idea  8)


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6427 on: April 16, 2019, 02:19:39 pm »
Today's highlight:

One student came into the office and was talking to one of the teachers. At one point, he said in Korean "I'll marry my girlfriend."

There was a silence. And then half the office started cracking up. I'd normally not post about this, but one teaching was laughing so hard that she started going crazy. She was literally pulling her hair like some sort of mad women. (Imagine the picture below but with laughter instead).



That to me was funnier than what the student said.

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6428 on: April 16, 2019, 07:45:04 pm »
something I'll never understand here is the teachers who are hired in for five or six classes a week.  example is the dance teacher here, he's obviously getting paid for teaching my students, but at the moment he's sat on his arse using his phone and my students are also using their phones.  it is dance class.  do something active.  do these people not know a: responsibility or b: the fact they're paid for teaching students?  i would feel guilty if another school asked me to work there and I just turned up and did nothing with the students.  can you imagine? 

I've always been amazed at how restless my students get and how short their attention spans are (high school, 50 minute classes).

I come to find out that it's common in my school for the teachers to teach for 30-35 minutes and then let the students "relax and chat" for the remaining 20.  Pretty good work if you can get it isn't it?


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6429 on: April 17, 2019, 07:18:52 am »
I've always been amazed at how restless my students get and how short their attention spans are (high school, 50 minute classes).

I come to find out that it's common in my school for the teachers to teach for 30-35 minutes and then let the students "relax and chat" for the remaining 20.  Pretty good work if you can get it isn't it?

this made me think of my 80 minute high school classes. i wonder what it's like teaching 80 minute classes..


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6430 on: April 17, 2019, 02:05:48 pm »
dressing dogs up as penguins is most definitely what the internet was invented for...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUmQhtxVVsg


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6433 on: April 22, 2019, 11:19:17 am »
i sometimes think about how diverse the level of interest and speaking ability has been for my co-teachers that I've had here over the years.  i've worked with some truly wonderful people here.  i understand that to achieve perfect fluent English is tricky given the time and the natural ability of the teachers involved, and also the complexity of English.  there have been a couple of teachers who've been teaching for decades who just seem to come in, teach and then they're done.  There is no real interest in speaking English with me or furthering anymore than what they need in the class.  i've never quite understood how they can't translate decades of teaching English and following grammar rules, not be able to then speak English or make the effort.  i doubt this would be the same for other subjects, would you have a science teacher who has no natural curiosity to learn all they can about science?

then there are the teachers who try really hard, go on their foreign training to the US and Finland etc and have a real natural curiosity for English, but will never be truly fluent in grammar or pronunciation.  most of my co-teachers I've had, love them as I do, fall into this category, and I suppose that makes sense. 

i'd hazard a guess that of the 30 or so co-teachers I've had, that three have perfect pronunciation, make no mistakes and are comfortable speaking only English the whole time without cracking into Korean at some point or use Korean syllables to say English words.  they don't take trips abroad at all but still have mastered English. 

not sure what point I'm trying to make, just something I was thinking about.  feel free to add any kind of teachers that I forgot.
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6434 on: April 22, 2019, 11:26:55 am »
feel free to add any kind of teachers that I forgot.
And then there's the I-can't speak-any-English-at-all,-but-let's-sit-down-for-a-leisurely-cup-of-coffee-and-get-to-know-one-another kind of teacher.
They're usually older, kindly, and take an active interest in the NETs. Their attention would be genuinely pleasant if it wasn't so unbearably awkward. Why insist on sitting next to me and engaging in long conversations when neither of us can communicate effectively?
   These kind of teachers always leave me feeling a bit sad as they're shining examples of all the potentially wonderful relationships that pass us by.  :sad:


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6435 on: April 22, 2019, 11:29:24 am »
not sure what point I'm trying to make, just something I was thinking about.

That's fine, it's a thread for pointless ramblings.......... ....  ;D

Wait.

It's not Friday.

GTFO  >:(


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6436 on: April 22, 2019, 11:49:53 am »
not sure what point I'm trying to make, just something I was thinking about.

That's fine, it's a thread for pointless ramblings.......... ....  ;D

Wait.

It's not Friday.

GTFO  >:(
oh, I see....  :shocked:

if it were Friday, you'd be two days away from seeing Iron Man on a 3 squillion metre-squared screen in Yeongdeungpo eating nacho chips, but with not enough cheese sauce or salsa for the amount of chips you get, meaning you have to chuck away half of the nacho chips.  then you realise that the waygooks you sold the other four tickets to are really drunk and causing a scene.  when they check their tickets and see your name on the ticket, you have your platinum membership revoked and you are laughed out of the cinema.  you try to console yourself by eating a cheongyang chili pepper, but that doesn't cheer you up either....

as it is, you have to wait seven days for all of this to happen...

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6437 on: April 22, 2019, 12:44:32 pm »
i sometimes think about how diverse the level of interest and speaking ability has been for my co-teachers that I've had here over the years.  i've worked with some truly wonderful people here.  i understand that to achieve perfect fluent English is tricky given the time and the natural ability of the teachers involved, and also the complexity of English.  there have been a couple of teachers who've been teaching for decades who just seem to come in, teach and then they're done.  There is no real interest in speaking English with me or furthering anymore than what they need in the class.  i've never quite understood how they can't translate decades of teaching English and following grammar rules, not be able to then speak English or make the effort.  i doubt this would be the same for other subjects, would you have a science teacher who has no natural curiosity to learn all they can about science?

then there are the teachers who try really hard, go on their foreign training to the US and Finland etc and have a real natural curiosity for English, but will never be truly fluent in grammar or pronunciation.  most of my co-teachers I've had, love them as I do, fall into this category, and I suppose that makes sense. 

i'd hazard a guess that of the 30 or so co-teachers I've had, that three have perfect pronunciation, make no mistakes and are comfortable speaking only English the whole time without cracking into Korean at some point or use Korean syllables to say English words.  they don't take trips abroad at all but still have mastered English. 

not sure what point I'm trying to make, just something I was thinking about.  feel free to add any kind of teachers that I forgot.


It's an interesting topic of discussion, which I enjoy dissecting.

It's hard to remember how many CTs I've worked with, but I'd estimate it to be around 30. If I include Korean teachers I've worked with during extra classes, camps etc. probably about 50.

Of that 50, I've never met a single one who I'd say had better than good pronunciation. The vocabulary seems to be rather limited too, particularly adjectives; the range of choice never seems to extend far beyond good, bad, hot, cold, delicious, fun, happy and sad. Right now, I'm attempting to teach my students how to read, hear and pronounce the 5 English vowels correctly. My CT likes to repeat what I'm saying, in Korean, and mimic the vowels when I say it, but she usually gets it wrong.

I'd say there are 3 things which influence a Korean teacher's English ability:

1 - How they were taught

Quite simply, CTs teach the way they were taught and I'm going to say that even Martin will agree that the way English was taught  in Korea, 20yrs ago and beyond, was ridiculous. The curiosity of learning a new language was replaced with memories and connotations of stress, anxiety and hate, the brain creates connections between emotions/states of mind and the activity itself, when you're forced and punished into learning English, it's quite likely you'll quickly come to hate it. Confucianism doesn't encourage innovation or expression and regions which adopted this philosophy also adopted it's teachings on teaching and learning; memorise and repeat what the previous generation has done, which is a highly inefficient way to learn a language.

2 - Their motivation (probably the biggest factor)

Public school teachers are essentially tenured, whether their students improve their English ability or not under the teacher's tutelage essentially means nothing. Promotion and advancement in one's career comes down to following orders and being liked by one's seniors. So, other than an intrinsic desire, there's no motivation to stray from the broken curriculum and there's certainly no motivation to improve their own English... I mean, there're dramas to watch.

3 - The purpose of English in Korea

While it's slowly changing and the English level is higher than what I discovered in Japan, I'd say English, in Korea, isn't a language, it's a metric and a means to an end. Sure, there's the bonus of being able to speak English when travelling, but it's hard to think of English as anything more than an arbitrary metric to get into a good university, a good a promotion or gain social status. You could replace testing and studying English with the science of the potato and not much would change. The tests themselves are a joke and rely on rote memorisation, so, cram before the test, pass it and forget everything you've learned. There's no motivation to improve.

I always think of this video to stress my point, it's a basically a channel on Warhammer 40k lore (pretty nerdy stuff), but the narrator is not a native English speaker, he's Norwegian and only studied English at school. He speaks English more fluently and articulately than most native English speakers, no hagwons, no universites.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=scCYN8PWrro
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6438 on: April 22, 2019, 01:25:57 pm »
all good points Aristocrat...

I think also there is still not really any reason for some teachers to become fluent speakers.  It's not going to lead to a promotion or help them further their careers much while they're in their younger years.  When they're older they'll just get 'pujangnim' status naturally.  In most cases, a lot just comes down to their own drive or curiosity. 

Add in also, that with native teacher numbers dwindling that in most schools now these teachers don't have any contact with foreigners day to day.  I think it does make a difference to some teacher's curiosity and therefore increasing their ability.  This year at my school, there were two female teachers starting and they've admitted that they were embarrassed and scared of talking to me as they'd not had a foreign teacher before.  But as I've been here for years, I learned how speak to these kind of teachers so they don't feel worried about conversing.  I suppose that is another group to add in, the timid personality.  A few years back, I had one co-teacher I talked a lot to day to day, whose English was good and then she moved to a countryside school and her speaking ability noticeable decreased.  We still meet once a month for dinner, as she still complains about her decreasing ability.  If there is still one benefit of a having a decent, understanding native teacher it is to help other willing Korean teachers with their English.

I also taught the teachers in my city for two years and saw the range evidently there from elementary through to high school.  Some joined so they could escape their school for the afternoon and do a little bit of English learning.  Some wanted to hide as they felt it was scary for them to talk in front of the other teachers.  All in all, they were really nice to teach and they'd ask if I could teach them idiomatic expressions to improve their understanding of English, so for fifteen minutes each week, I'd introduce 4 or 5 idioms  with how to use and their appropriateness.  I miss teaching them, and they still talk about how they enjoyed it but that the program was cancelled by the office of education for no reason.  It wasn't costing anything but the OoE felt the need to scrape it even though it lasted for well over a decade. 

Actually, for the three teachers whose English was best, we used to bicker.  I saw that as a near fluent level.  Not bad bickering, but just that mutual understanding that there was nothing serious in our talking.  I remember one of our conversations lasted for 40 minutes about whether it was autumn or winter.   :rolleyes:  Also, these three teachers could see I grade my language when I'm talking to students/teachers etc, and all told me to speak a full speed, which I find hard to do now after so long in Korea.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #6439 on: April 22, 2019, 01:33:45 pm »
if it were Friday, you'd be two days away from seeing Iron Man on a 3 squillion metre-squared screen in Yeongdeungpo eating nacho chips, but with not enough cheese sauce or salsa for the amount of chips you get, meaning you have to chuck away half of the nacho chips.  then you realise that the waygooks you sold the other four tickets to are really drunk and causing a scene.  when they check their tickets and see your name on the ticket, you have your platinum membership revoked and you are laughed out of the cinema.  you try to console yourself by eating a cheongyang chili pepper, but that doesn't cheer you up either....

This is amazing. hahahahah Thanks for the laugh.

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