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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5780 on: September 07, 2018, 07:03:04 am »
Is anyone else constantly confused about what to throw away and how?

I was told that one bag type was only trash, but I always see the Koreans here throwing recyclable things into it.

And are you or aren't you meant to throw eggs into the food waste??

And what in the hell do I do with ripped up bedding???

Korea this is too coNFUSING

Two big things to keep in mind:

The rules are different between districts (gu)
The written rules you see in English may or may not be decent translations.

Eggs... I put them in food waste. The rules I saw for Seocho-gu say "hard shells" are not permitted, so I don't put clam shells in. I heard another opinion that "anything livestock can eat" is ok; hogs will eat anything, and hens will eat eggshells. I don't think that they use it for livestock feed though.

Just do your best... not even the locals really understand the rules.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5781 on: September 07, 2018, 07:44:20 am »
Is anyone else constantly confused about what to throw away and how?

I was told that one bag type was only trash, but I always see the Koreans here throwing recyclable things into it.

And are you or aren't you meant to throw eggs into the food waste??

And what in the hell do I do with ripped up bedding???

Korea this is too coNFUSING

Whereas I would consider food waste to be "compost" and therefore allow things like the skin of an onion or an eggshell, it actually goes for pig feed in Korea, hence the no bones, no shells or onion skins.
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5782 on: September 07, 2018, 08:55:03 am »
Does anybody know what to do with dead plants and soil? The heat in my veranda killed most of my plants, so I want to dispose of the dead plants and soil, but not the vases in which they came. My plan is to fill the old vases with artificial plants or some other decoration.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5783 on: September 07, 2018, 09:54:23 am »
Does anybody know what to do with dead plants and soil? The heat in my veranda killed most of my plants, so I want to dispose of the dead plants and soil, but not the vases in which they came. My plan is to fill the old vases with artificial plants or some other decoration.


This makes me ponder a bigger question. Where do all those giant plant pots and flowers go to a few days after a new store or restaurant has been open and they've disappeared?
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5784 on: September 07, 2018, 09:57:32 am »
Does anybody know what to do with dead plants and soil? The heat in my veranda killed most of my plants, so I want to dispose of the dead plants and soil, but not the vases in which they came. My plan is to fill the old vases with artificial plants or some other decoration.


This makes me ponder a bigger question. Where do all those giant plant pots and flowers go to a few days after a new store or restaurant has been open and they've disappeared?

The "Grand Open" lasts for years. They eventually just decompose into thier constituent elements.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5785 on: September 07, 2018, 10:17:35 am »
Does anybody know what to do with dead plants and soil? The heat in my veranda killed most of my plants, so I want to dispose of the dead plants and soil, but not the vases in which they came. My plan is to fill the old vases with artificial plants or some other decoration.


This makes me ponder a bigger question. Where do all those giant plant pots and flowers go to a few days after a new store or restaurant has been open and they've disappeared?

The "Grand Open" lasts for years. They eventually just decompose into thier constituent elements.

Haha. Sometimes I feel like sneaking out in the middle of the night with a sharpie and adding and ing onto those posters.  :police:
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5786 on: September 07, 2018, 12:01:45 pm »
Does anybody know what to do with dead plants and soil? The heat in my veranda killed most of my plants, so I want to dispose of the dead plants and soil, but not the vases in which they came. My plan is to fill the old vases with artificial plants or some other decoration.


This makes me ponder a bigger question. Where do all those giant plant pots and flowers go to a few days after a new store or restaurant has been open and they've disappeared?

The "Grand Open" lasts for years. They eventually just decompose into thier constituent elements.

I'm often confronted by the sight of mummified 'Grand Open' plants on the rotting stoops of failed businesses. They're the dead carriage horses of this era in Korea. Very depressing.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5787 on: September 07, 2018, 12:23:08 pm »
Yeah, BTS hits all of the right points for being popular with the pop mainstream crowd, enough so that they're now getting treated like some kind of national treasure and are being given special treatment even over other celebrities.

Not sure how long they can ride that wave for, though.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5788 on: September 07, 2018, 12:23:36 pm »
What BTS really need is some military service!!

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2018/sep/05/k-pop-south-korean-stars-bts-conscription-debate

Yeah. Big Bang are almost all doing their military service, like they should.

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Public opinion on the issue remains sharply divided and a recent poll showed 48% were in favour of increasing incentives while 44% were opposed.

It's almost a fifty/fifty thing though.  But it seems to be something that could be open to abuse if they allow famous people to opt out of it.  Fair enough they win a medal in the Olympics, but for topping the charts?  Nah.  In Korea, where the majority of the general public are against rich/famous privilege, I doubt this would make that situation any better.

Avoiding military service for topping the charts would be an absolute scam when you consider that you can just buy your way to the top of the charts exactly like BTS have done.

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5789 on: September 07, 2018, 02:18:38 pm »
How did bibimbap and bulgogi become the posterchildren of Korean food promoted abroad? Bibimbap was literally created first by using 반찬 leftovers, and barely even qualifies as like, a recipe or dish, and bulgogi is just... underwhelming? Has anyone ever eaten bulgogi and been like, "Oh my god, this is so delicious"?

Bibimbap can be great, but at the end of the day, it really is just rice with 반찬 on it.

I feel like they're two of the most overrated Korean foods. Also samgyeopsal is up there. It's usually really low grade pork belly. If the place actually uses good meat, it can be good, but Korean BBQ restaurants are usually pretty much the lowest common denominator of food.

What do you feel are the most overrated Korean foods?

And if you're just going to come in here and say, "Bawww all Korean food is bad it's so bad UGH it's not REFINED and it's such an INFERIOR CUISINE UGHHHH" then just don't bother. I'm asking people who actually like and appreciate Korean food.

I'm not sure about most overrated. And I generally like both of those foods actually. I just came to say that the first time I came to Korea was when I learned to appreciate soups and stews. Before then, I never really thought too highly of soups and stews. So I guess I'm a soups and stews kind of fan. IMO 삼계탕 is super underrated. I love that shit.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5790 on: September 07, 2018, 02:20:51 pm »
How did bibimbap and bulgogi become the posterchildren of Korean food promoted abroad? Bibimbap was literally created first by using 반찬 leftovers, and barely even qualifies as like, a recipe or dish, and bulgogi is just... underwhelming? Has anyone ever eaten bulgogi and been like, "Oh my god, this is so delicious"?

Bibimbap can be great, but at the end of the day, it really is just rice with 반찬 on it.

I feel like they're two of the most overrated Korean foods. Also samgyeopsal is up there. It's usually really low grade pork belly. If the place actually uses good meat, it can be good, but Korean BBQ restaurants are usually pretty much the lowest common denominator of food.

What do you feel are the most overrated Korean foods?

And if you're just going to come in here and say, "Bawww all Korean food is bad it's so bad UGH it's not REFINED and it's such an INFERIOR CUISINE UGHHHH" then just don't bother. I'm asking people who actually like and appreciate Korean food.

Based on the Korean population's opinion, all of them.

Based on what I've seen, kimbap. There was a week during Summer break where the other teachers ordered it for lunch FOUR DAYS IN A ROW. Can't get enough of that kimbap :cry:

I actually really enjoy samgyeopsal though in comparison to most Korean foods.
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5791 on: September 07, 2018, 02:24:55 pm »
How did bibimbap and bulgogi become the posterchildren of Korean food promoted abroad? Bibimbap was literally created first by using 반찬 leftovers, and barely even qualifies as like, a recipe or dish, and bulgogi is just... underwhelming? Has anyone ever eaten bulgogi and been like, "Oh my god, this is so delicious"?

Bibimbap can be great, but at the end of the day, it really is just rice with 반찬 on it.

I feel like they're two of the most overrated Korean foods. Also samgyeopsal is up there. It's usually really low grade pork belly. If the place actually uses good meat, it can be good, but Korean BBQ restaurants are usually pretty much the lowest common denominator of food.

What do you feel are the most overrated Korean foods?

And if you're just going to come in here and say, "Bawww all Korean food is bad it's so bad UGH it's not REFINED and it's such an INFERIOR CUISINE UGHHHH" then just don't bother. I'm asking people who actually like and appreciate Korean food.

I love bibimbap, but I'm not going to pretend that it's some kind of magic. hahaha It's rice, gochujang and veggies. Spicy rice salad. haha

Also, I hate kimbap so much. It's the worst of everything rolled up into a tube of disappointment. There's also the mental block of thinking "sushi roll" and then having yellow radish come through on your bite. Gross.

Overrated? Yeah, bbq. I like it, but samgyeopsal is not good, 9 times out of 10. Gimme some moksal, gabeurisal, hanegjeongsal. Those are all good. And spend a little more, folks. 12 000W for all you can eat samgyeopsay is not something to triumph, you get EXACTLY what you pay for. Spend 15 for less meat and it'll actually be a good evening out. 
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5792 on: September 07, 2018, 02:29:39 pm »
How did bibimbap and bulgogi become the posterchildren of Korean food promoted abroad? Bibimbap was literally created first by using 반찬 leftovers, and barely even qualifies as like, a recipe or dish, and bulgogi is just... underwhelming? Has anyone ever eaten bulgogi and been like, "Oh my god, this is so delicious"?

Bibimbap can be great, but at the end of the day, it really is just rice with 반찬 on it.

I feel like they're two of the most overrated Korean foods. Also samgyeopsal is up there. It's usually really low grade pork belly. If the place actually uses good meat, it can be good, but Korean BBQ restaurants are usually pretty much the lowest common denominator of food.

What do you feel are the most overrated Korean foods?

And if you're just going to come in here and say, "Bawww all Korean food is bad it's so bad UGH it's not REFINED and it's such an INFERIOR CUISINE UGHHHH" then just don't bother. I'm asking people who actually like and appreciate Korean food.

I love bibimbap, but I'm not going to pretend that it's some kind of magic. hahaha It's rice, gochujang and veggies. Spicy rice salad. haha

Also, I hate kimbap so much. It's the worst of everything rolled up into a tube of disappointment. There's also the mental block of thinking "sushi roll" and then having yellow radish come through on your bite. Gross.

Overrated? Yeah, bbq. I like it, but samgyeopsal is not good, 9 times out of 10. Gimme some moksal, gabeurisal, hanegjeongsal. Those are all good. And spend a little more, folks. 12 000W for all you can eat samgyeopsay is not something to triumph, you get EXACTLY what you pay for. Spend 15 for less meat and it'll actually be a good evening out.

We're on the same page so exactly right here.

And also, if you go to a good place, and pay a good place price, samgyeopsal can be amazing - if it's also being cooked by someone who doesn't suck at cooking at it. But getting all those things to happen at the same time is next to impossible. You're totally right that 9/10 times it's just hot trash.

Also what's that last meat you mentioned? I either can't recognize it or can't figure out your romanization.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5793 on: September 07, 2018, 02:41:32 pm »
Also what's that last meat you mentioned? I either can't recognize it or can't figure out your romanization.

Ah shit, HANGJEONGsal (항정)

Usually if you go to a place with Gabeuri or Hangjeong, they give enough of a shit about their food that you'll have a good meal.

I find a lot of Jeju pork places are decent. And they usually have a good selection of cuts. My friend and I went to a plce in Yeosu and it was bloody incredible.......... and it was 80 000 for the two of us (with a bottle of Hwayo 25 soj)
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5794 on: September 07, 2018, 02:49:06 pm »
Also what's that last meat you mentioned? I either can't recognize it or can't figure out your romanization.

Ah shit, HANGJEONGsal (항정)

Usually if you go to a place with Gabeuri or Hangjeong, they give enough of a shit about their food that you'll have a good meal.

I find a lot of Jeju pork places are decent. And they usually have a good selection of cuts. My friend and I went to a plce in Yeosu and it was bloody incredible.......... and it was 80 000 for the two of us (with a bottle of Hwayo 25 soj)

Hwayo is so good.

Also, have you tried any of those newer cheaper 'premium' sojus? There's Jinro Gold, the ones that are supposedly made in oak casks, and there's one other. I forget the actual names. But they're sold in the same section as your standard sojus. And they're only like 200 won more at the store. And the quality is actually... kind of decent? I don't even bother buying regular soju anymore. But at restaurants the price difference is too much to justify.

I skip the Jeju pork places. They ARE good. Often. But they're just waaaaay too overpriced.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5795 on: September 07, 2018, 02:58:42 pm »
How did bibimbap and bulgogi become the posterchildren of Korean food promoted abroad? Bibimbap was literally created first by using 반찬 leftovers, and barely even qualifies as like, a recipe or dish, and bulgogi is just... underwhelming? Has anyone ever eaten bulgogi and been like, "Oh my god, this is so delicious"?

Bibimbap can be great, but at the end of the day, it really is just rice with 반찬 on it.

I feel like they're two of the most overrated Korean foods. Also samgyeopsal is up there. It's usually really low grade pork belly. If the place actually uses good meat, it can be good, but Korean BBQ restaurants are usually pretty much the lowest common denominator of food.

What do you feel are the most overrated Korean foods?

And if you're just going to come in here and say, "Bawww all Korean food is bad it's so bad UGH it's not REFINED and it's such an INFERIOR CUISINE UGHHHH" then just don't bother. I'm asking people who actually like and appreciate Korean food.

I get some flack for not gushing about Korean food even though there's a lot I like (the same with Korean music and TV but that's another story). I think you're right about bibimbap and bulgogi being overrated. I love meat generally but I don't find myself hankering for some bulgogi. You'll find me in the free-refill samgyeopsal place at least once a week, though  ;D

Most overrated: shabu-shabu. Am I the only one who thinks it's just a thin, disappointing stew? Plus I can never get enough meat at those restaurants. Also, an honorable mention to rice-cakes. I will never forgive you for having 'cake' in your name. They're one of the least inspired ways of getting calories into your body that I can think of.

Most underrated: 전 (jeon) and 막걸리 (makgeolli). Found an all-you-cant eat 전 restaurant near me and it's changed my life.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5796 on: September 07, 2018, 03:01:17 pm »
Also, have you tried any of those newer cheaper 'premium' sojus? There's Jinro Gold, the ones that are supposedly made in oak casks, and there's one other. I forget the actual names. But they're sold in the same section as your standard sojus. And they're only like 200 won more at the store. And the quality is actually... kind of decent? I don't even bother buying regular soju anymore. But at restaurants the price difference is too much to justify.

The Gold one with the frog? That shit is like 24%! haha

That oak cask one is bomb. We were on Daebudo and they had one left in the fridge. I asked the waitress for one and she looked confused. Comes back 3 mins later. "What are you talking about?" I go to the fridge and show her. "One minute." WTF is going on, haha.

The company sent that to us months ago as a sample. We had no idea what it was.

WELL, good thing I know what's going on! haha. That oak cask stuff has such a smooth vanilla note to it, so much better and, like you said, only 200W more.
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5797 on: September 07, 2018, 03:03:08 pm »
Also, have you tried any of those newer cheaper 'premium' sojus? There's Jinro Gold, the ones that are supposedly made in oak casks, and there's one other. I forget the actual names. But they're sold in the same section as your standard sojus. And they're only like 200 won more at the store. And the quality is actually... kind of decent? I don't even bother buying regular soju anymore. But at restaurants the price difference is too much to justify.

The Gold one with the frog? That shit is like 24%! haha

That oak cask one is bomb. We were on Daebudo and they had one left in the fridge. I asked the waitress for one and she looked confused. Comes back 3 mins later. "What are you talking about?" I go to the fridge and show her. "One minute." WTF is going on, haha.

The company sent that to us months ago as a sample. We had no idea what it was.

WELL, good thing I know what's going on! haha. That oak cask stuff has such a smooth vanilla note to it, so much better and, like you said, only 200W more.

I gotta get hip to this. What is the oak cask soju called and where can I find it?


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5798 on: September 07, 2018, 03:05:36 pm »
How did bibimbap and bulgogi become the posterchildren of Korean food promoted abroad? Bibimbap was literally created first by using 반찬 leftovers, and barely even qualifies as like, a recipe or dish, and bulgogi is just... underwhelming? Has anyone ever eaten bulgogi and been like, "Oh my god, this is so delicious"?

Bibimbap can be great, but at the end of the day, it really is just rice with 반찬 on it.

I feel like they're two of the most overrated Korean foods. Also samgyeopsal is up there. It's usually really low grade pork belly. If the place actually uses good meat, it can be good, but Korean BBQ restaurants are usually pretty much the lowest common denominator of food.

What do you feel are the most overrated Korean foods?

And if you're just going to come in here and say, "Bawww all Korean food is bad it's so bad UGH it's not REFINED and it's such an INFERIOR CUISINE UGHHHH" then just don't bother. I'm asking people who actually like and appreciate Korean food.

I get some flack for not gushing about Korean food even though there's a lot I like (the same with Korean music and TV but that's another story). I think you're right about bibimbap and bulgogi being overrated. I love meat generally but I don't find myself hankering for some bulgogi. You'll find me in the free-refill samgyeopsal place at least once a week, though  ;D

Most overrated: shabu-shabu. Am I the only one who thinks it's just a thin, disappointing stew? Plus I can never get enough meat at those restaurants. Also, an honorable mention to rice-cakes. I will never forgive you for having 'cake' in your name. They're one of the least inspired ways of getting calories into your body that I can think of.

Most underrated: 전 (jeon) and 막걸리 (makgeolli). Found an all-you-cant eat 전 restaurant near me and it's changed my life.

Korean shabu-shabu is super disappointing, especially they just dump EVERYTHING in all at the same time.

Shabu-shabu is supposed to be a slow meal where you cook one shaving of meat at a time in the soup, and the soup slowly, SLOWLY, builds up its flavour from all the different stuff your dip-cooking in it. It's not supposed to a 'dump a bunch of stuff in a pot all at once' type thing.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5799 on: September 07, 2018, 03:08:49 pm »
How did bibimbap and bulgogi become the posterchildren of Korean food promoted abroad? Bibimbap was literally created first by using 반찬 leftovers, and barely even qualifies as like, a recipe or dish, and bulgogi is just... underwhelming? Has anyone ever eaten bulgogi and been like, "Oh my god, this is so delicious"?

Bibimbap can be great, but at the end of the day, it really is just rice with 반찬 on it.

I feel like they're two of the most overrated Korean foods. Also samgyeopsal is up there. It's usually really low grade pork belly. If the place actually uses good meat, it can be good, but Korean BBQ restaurants are usually pretty much the lowest common denominator of food.

What do you feel are the most overrated Korean foods?

And if you're just going to come in here and say, "Bawww all Korean food is bad it's so bad UGH it's not REFINED and it's such an INFERIOR CUISINE UGHHHH" then just don't bother. I'm asking people who actually like and appreciate Korean food.

I get some flack for not gushing about Korean food even though there's a lot I like (the same with Korean music and TV but that's another story). I think you're right about bibimbap and bulgogi being overrated. I love meat generally but I don't find myself hankering for some bulgogi. You'll find me in the free-refill samgyeopsal place at least once a week, though  ;D

Most overrated: shabu-shabu. Am I the only one who thinks it's just a thin, disappointing stew? Plus I can never get enough meat at those restaurants. Also, an honorable mention to rice-cakes. I will never forgive you for having 'cake' in your name. They're one of the least inspired ways of getting calories into your body that I can think of.

Most underrated: 전 (jeon) and 막걸리 (makgeolli). Found an all-you-cant eat 전 restaurant near me and it's changed my life.

Korean shabu-shabu is super disappointing, especially they just dump EVERYTHING in all at the same time.

Shabu-shabu is supposed to be a slow meal where you cook one shaving of meat at a time in the soup, and the soup slowly, SLOWLY, builds up its flavour from all the different stuff your dip-cooking in it. It's not supposed to a 'dump a bunch of stuff in a pot all at once' type thing.

Ah, that explains that then. Kind of like the Korean approach to pastas.