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  • The Legend

    • 3404

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5740 on: August 27, 2018, 09:14:40 am »
I'm on mobile so it's hard to quote, but don't worry, I definitely looked into the type of work that they're doing. I found a doctor who specializes in the type of work that I want to get done, the one where they find the joints that are misaligned instead of just giving you a full body crack. He's also studied in America and is certified in the type of work that I'm looking for, so I feel pretty confident in his abilities.

A lot of people in my area keep suggesting massage or acupuncture, but having a shoulder that got dislocated isn't going to get fixed with a couple of needles

I have problems with my left shoulder which I've dislocated three times.  The last time, which may have included a tear, froze, but in a fashion that seems to have stabilised my shoulder but making other problems.  I remember after the last dislocation I travelled every Saturday to a young chiropractor in Itaewon in the Hannam Building, not really for bone cracking, but more for getting my range of motion back.  Which I did, it was very painful mind, so I have 95% motion except for the frozen bit.  I still get scapula pain on the left side, and have at the moment.  I found the Orthopaedic doctor at Seoul Uni Hospital in Bundang and have an appointment in September.  I don't really want to have the invasive surgery because of the length of rehab, 6 months+ and the fact I'm very rural so constant rehab is almost impossible considering my job.  But maybe, just maybe, I'll get a decent opinion and idea about how to proceed.

The method I've heard good things about is Gonstead, since it focuses on the root cause of the issue and not just temporary relief. There's two I found but the one I was looking at, his website just went down. So I'm not sure who I'll end up calling now. Maybe it could help you to get an exam by one of them to see if they can assist in the process?

http://gonstead.com/find-a-gonstead-doctor/?country=Korea%2C+Republic+of&findst=Find+in+Country#trg-results

In my opinion, you really don't want to rely on constantly going to the chiro or specialist, especially in Korea, a single assessment should be enough. It's expensive, unnecessary and won't permanently fix the problem.

Being really active and heavily involved with sports, I've had many injuries over the years. I've had lots of experience with chiros, doctors and limited experience with acupuncture/BS.

Chronic injuries or pain are almost always the result of a bio-mechanical imbalance, a muscle, joint or tendon which is required to do a particular movement or action is too weak or lacks flexibility. Your body then goes to plan B and gets a different muscle, joint or tendon to do the job. The plan B part is able to do it, but only to a limited degree, push it beyond that and you get injury. You might've also not allowed a previous injury to heal properly, ultimately, it comes down to the same thing, bio-mechanical imbalances.

Your only options are to:

A - Permanently reduce activity level
B - Identify the imbalance and strengthen or increase flexibility in said area.

Speaking of Chiros, I visited one in Itaewon and was told there are less than 10 registered chiros in the whole country (they each charge a ridiculous amount of money). Apparently, the Korean traditional medicine/BS unions, lobbied to block chiro schools in Korea, for fear of competition. The traditional med. doctors claim they can treat any chiropractic issues... sure those Quasimodo ajumas can attest to that.
You could get your back cracked till Kingdom come, you problems will never go away. Strengthening imbalances is hard work, but it's really the only way to permanently fix chronic injuries.

There are many easy and free ways to test bio-mechanical weaknesses and the root cause is usually not where you feel pain. Don't waste your money.
I mostly agree, but some chronic injuries do eventually require surgery, especially if you want to remain active. Impingement syndrome, for example.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5741 on: August 27, 2018, 10:27:56 am »
Agree that physio is also required as part of the healing/recovery process. Lots of people never regain 100% ROM or mobility due to insufficient/incomplete physio after or as part of treatment.

My dad was like that. He never did recover full use of his shoulder after he had surgery, mostly because he stopped going to physical therapy once he thought he was at a point he could do it on his own. But he would never push himself hard enough on his own, lol. It was his dominant side, too.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5742 on: August 27, 2018, 12:45:31 pm »
Funnily enough I'm going to the doctor today to get my elbow checked out.  I think it's Tennis Elbow.

I lift weights regularly and gradually started feeling pain on the outside of my elbow and sometimes up my forearm.  I've rested it for three weeks but still feel pain.  I'm interested to hear what he says; I assume I'll just have to rest it for another few weeks and alter how I'm gripping the weights.


  • Kayos
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1195

    • March 31, 2016, 07:13:57 pm
    • NZ
Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5743 on: August 28, 2018, 11:06:43 am »
I think we can safely say in Chungnam, that summer is finished.  There has been almost raining season rain for the last few days.   :smiley:

Lucky, The typhoon got rid of the humidity for a bit here, then after the typhoon we the weather was like: Oh, you missed a few days of humidity, so you have to make them up. And preceded to make things super humid again. I've barely been getting any sleep these last couple of days. The AC either makes things, slightly too cold, or if I turn it up 1 - 2C, I just feel the humidity, and both ways, I'm struggling to sleep >.<


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5744 on: August 28, 2018, 11:11:45 am »
I think we can safely say in Chungnam, that summer is finished.  There has been almost raining season rain for the last few days.   :smiley:
Koreans call this the late summer or fall rainy season as the weather front retreats back south.


  • JNM
  • The Legend

    • 3825

    • January 19, 2015, 10:16:48 am
    • Seoul, South Korea
Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5745 on: August 28, 2018, 11:21:19 am »
I think we can safely say in Chungnam, that summer is finished.  There has been almost raining season rain for the last few days.   :smiley:

Lucky, The typhoon got rid of the humidity for a bit here, then after the typhoon we the weather was like: Oh, you missed a few days of humidity, so you have to make them up. And preceded to make things super humid again. I've barely been getting any sleep these last couple of days. The AC either makes things, slightly too cold, or if I turn it up 1 - 2C, I just feel the humidity, and both ways, I'm struggling to sleep >.<

Mrs. JNM: turn the a/c down to 22; 23 is too hot.

Also Mrs. JNM: can you get another blanket for us?


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5746 on: August 28, 2018, 11:30:03 am »
I think we can safely say in Chungnam, that summer is finished.  There has been almost raining season rain for the last few days.   :smiley:

Lucky, The typhoon got rid of the humidity for a bit here, then after the typhoon we the weather was like: Oh, you missed a few days of humidity, so you have to make them up. And preceded to make things super humid again. I've barely been getting any sleep these last couple of days. The AC either makes things, slightly too cold, or if I turn it up 1 - 2C, I just feel the humidity, and both ways, I'm struggling to sleep >.<

Mrs. JNM: turn the a/c down to 22; 23 is too hot.

Also Mrs. JNM: can you get another blanket for us?

Haha. My life is more like:

Me: Please help. I'm dying. Need aircon.
Sig other: Here, I'll point the fan at you. No aircon. It's too cold.



  • Kayos
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1195

    • March 31, 2016, 07:13:57 pm
    • NZ
Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5747 on: August 28, 2018, 11:39:05 am »
I think we can safely say in Chungnam, that summer is finished.  There has been almost raining season rain for the last few days.   :smiley:

Lucky, The typhoon got rid of the humidity for a bit here, then after the typhoon we the weather was like: Oh, you missed a few days of humidity, so you have to make them up. And preceded to make things super humid again. I've barely been getting any sleep these last couple of days. The AC either makes things, slightly too cold, or if I turn it up 1 - 2C, I just feel the humidity, and both ways, I'm struggling to sleep >.<

Mrs. JNM: turn the a/c down to 22; 23 is too hot.

Also Mrs. JNM: can you get another blanket for us?

Haha. My life is more like:

Me: Please help. I'm dying. Need aircon.
Sig other: Here, I'll point the fan at you. No aircon. It's too cold.

They both sound like what I've been saying to myself, lately, for the most part.
When I run my AC at 18 - 20C, it's slightly too cold to sleep well (a bigger / thicker / another thin blanket makes it too hot still). 21 - 23C makes my room warm still, not overbearingly so, but enough, that it still makes it harder for me to fall asleep.

HURRY UP AND END, SUMMER!!! >:(


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5748 on: August 28, 2018, 11:44:01 am »
I think we can safely say in Chungnam, that summer is finished.  There has been almost raining season rain for the last few days.   :smiley:

Lucky, The typhoon got rid of the humidity for a bit here, then after the typhoon we the weather was like: Oh, you missed a few days of humidity, so you have to make them up. And preceded to make things super humid again. I've barely been getting any sleep these last couple of days. The AC either makes things, slightly too cold, or if I turn it up 1 - 2C, I just feel the humidity, and both ways, I'm struggling to sleep >.<

Mrs. JNM: turn the a/c down to 22; 23 is too hot.

Also Mrs. JNM: can you get another blanket for us?

Haha. My life is more like:

Me: Please help. I'm dying. Need aircon.
Sig other: Here, I'll point the fan at you. No aircon. It's too cold.
After years of arguments over this issue, we finally decided the best course of action is too sleep in separate rooms during the really hot periods of summer. Worth it.


  • oglop
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1849

    • August 25, 2011, 07:24:54 pm
    • Seoul
Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5749 on: August 28, 2018, 11:47:56 am »
winter blanket, windows closed, no aircon, no fan, thermometer says 29 degrees, still complains she's cold. it's unbearable

i've been sleeping on the sofa by myself in the living room directly under the air con for the past month


  • CO2
  • The Legend

    • 4305

    • March 02, 2015, 03:41:14 pm
    • Gunpo
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5750 on: August 28, 2018, 11:51:00 am »
I think we can safely say in Chungnam, that summer is finished.  There has been almost raining season rain for the last few days.   :smiley:

Lucky, The typhoon got rid of the humidity for a bit here, then after the typhoon we the weather was like: Oh, you missed a few days of humidity, so you have to make them up. And preceded to make things super humid again. I've barely been getting any sleep these last couple of days. The AC either makes things, slightly too cold, or if I turn it up 1 - 2C, I just feel the humidity, and both ways, I'm struggling to sleep >.<

Mrs. JNM: turn the a/c down to 22; 23 is too hot.

Also Mrs. JNM: can you get another blanket for us?

Korean partner's body temperature is something I'll never understand.

The ondol is on, on the bed is a hot mat that is also on, plus the wife will be under one of those lovely thick fluffy style duvet covers on top of the hot mat, only her face is showing, I come in the room and leave the door open,  '남편 추워!'  :rolleyes:

Meanwhile, I'm walking around the house in my underwear, sweating just a tad.
The joys of fauxtherhood


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5751 on: August 28, 2018, 11:58:50 am »
Wait - people sleep with aircon on? Isn't that super expensive? I just sleep with a fan on.


Also, I'm so happy to know that I'm not the only person whose significant other seems to have totally bizarrely cold body temperatures.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5752 on: August 28, 2018, 12:06:25 pm »
Wait - people sleep with aircon on? Isn't that super expensive? I just sleep with a fan on.


Also, I'm so happy to know that I'm not the only person whose significant other seems to have totally bizarrely cold body temperatures.

I found just using the dehumidifier option on the air-conditioner works just fine.  On ours, you can run it for an hour, and then switch off any lights on it.  Apparently, you need to drop your body temperature by 1 or 2 degrees to help induce sleep.

Ah. Sig Other and I sleep in separate rooms. And my room doesn't have aircon in it. So, that's a luxury I won't know. But like, even in hotels and stuff I've never slept with aircon on. That seems extravagant.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5753 on: August 28, 2018, 12:32:29 pm »
Wait - people sleep with aircon on? Isn't that super expensive? I just sleep with a fan on.


Also, I'm so happy to know that I'm not the only person whose significant other seems to have totally bizarrely cold body temperatures.

I found just using the dehumidifier option on the air-conditioner works just fine.  On ours, you can run it for an hour, and then switch off any lights on it.  Apparently, you need to drop your body temperature by 1 or 2 degrees to help induce sleep.

Ah. Sig Other and I sleep in separate rooms. And my room doesn't have aircon in it. So, that's a luxury I won't know. But like, even in hotels and stuff I've never slept with aircon on. That seems extravagant.

Haha yeah heaven forbid you have to open your wallet for once  :wink:


  • Kayos
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1195

    • March 31, 2016, 07:13:57 pm
    • NZ
Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5754 on: August 28, 2018, 12:32:45 pm »
Wait - people sleep with aircon on? Isn't that super expensive? I just sleep with a fan on.


Also, I'm so happy to know that I'm not the only person whose significant other seems to have totally bizarrely cold body temperatures.

It's not too bad. I have this giant, power guzzling A/C Unit - (it has sticker on it that says it's a 5/5 for power usage (5 is uses a lot of power, 1 is uses a low amount)) - My biggest power bill in summer has been about 86,000 - 87,000won.
I also have a low tolerance to heat, and get eczema badly when I'm hot, so I need to try stay more on the colder sides of things. Sleeping with just a fan on, in Korea, still keeps me really sweaty and hot.


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  • The Legend

    • 2606

    • September 30, 2012, 06:56:11 am
    • Korea
Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5755 on: August 28, 2018, 01:02:19 pm »
i've been sleeping on the sofa by myself in the living room directly under the air con for the past month
My life since mid July.

Kpip! - Martin 2018


  • Mister Tim
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1474

    • September 08, 2013, 10:33:54 am
    • SK
Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5756 on: August 28, 2018, 01:33:08 pm »
I usually blast my AC for an hour or so before bed, but then turn it off when I actually get in bed. That usually gets the the air temperature in my apartment low enough and keeps it that way long enough for me to sleep. Of course, the temperature will slowly creep up again, which means I'll wake up a little early and a lot sweaty, but then I can just turn the AC back on and go back to sleep until my alarm goes off. The process allows me to avoid most of the discomfort, while not having to keep the AC running all night.


  • Lazio
  • Veteran

    • 129

    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5757 on: August 28, 2018, 07:54:08 pm »
Wait - people sleep with aircon on? Isn't that super expensive? I just sleep with a fan on.


Also, I'm so happy to know that I'm not the only person whose significant other seems to have totally bizarrely cold body temperatures.

I found just using the dehumidifier option on the air-conditioner works just fine.  On ours, you can run it for an hour, and then switch off any lights on it.  Apparently, you need to drop your body temperature by 1 or 2 degrees to help induce sleep.

Ah. Sig Other and I sleep in separate rooms. And my room doesn't have aircon in it. So, that's a luxury I won't know. But like, even in hotels and stuff I've never slept with aircon on. That seems extravagant.

Do you feel the same way about heating in the winter? Isn't that the same general idea? The temperature is not comfortable for you so you change it to be more comfortable. Many Koreans are cheap to use their A/C yet they have no problem keeping their homes toasty hot in the winter and paying hundreds of dollars for gas.

We ran our A/C basically all the time. Except for a few days when we were away and 1 hour or so in the mornings to get some fresh air and to let the A/C rest a bit. From 7.15 to 8.15 our electricity bill was 62.000 won. Normally we pay around 20 thousand so running the aircon cost us 40.000 basically. We pay around 4 times that much for gas in the coldest months of winter.
« Last Edit: August 28, 2018, 08:13:08 pm by Lazio »


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5758 on: August 30, 2018, 01:27:39 pm »
Yeah, I use my A/C during the summer months pretty much noholdsbarred. If I can have A/C, I'm going to use it. I don't like being hot, especially when I'm trying to sleep.

Meanwhile, I never use my heat unless I have guests over, no matter how frigid it gets. I like it cold enough to hurt. It's super comfy for me to sit in my home all toasty in my blanket while my face is all corpse frozen. Love it.

People are depressing me today. I can't tell if it's because it's just one of those days, or if maybe I'm a little too over-exposed and need to hide out in my cave for a while. Another reason why I miss winter so much right now. I've been told by a couple of people now that they're estimating this upcoming winter season to be shorter than usual. I really hope they're wrong.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5759 on: August 30, 2018, 01:33:46 pm »
Yeah, I use my A/C during the summer months pretty much noholdsbarred. If I can have A/C, I'm going to use it. I don't like being hot, especially when I'm trying to sleep.

Meanwhile, I never use my heat unless I have guests over, no matter how frigid it gets. I like it cold enough to hurt. It's super comfy for me to sit in my home all toasty in my blanket while my face is all corpse frozen. Love it.

People are depressing me today. I can't tell if it's because it's just one of those days, or if maybe I'm a little too over-exposed and need to hide out in my cave for a while. Another reason why I miss winter so much right now. I've been told by a couple of people now that they're estimating this upcoming winter season to be shorter than usual. I really hope they're wrong.

Winter would be great if it weren't for the constant plague that infects literally everyone at the workplace and on public transit (compounded with year-round lack of hand-washing), and the cold ass wind that makes your fingers die even if you've got gloves on.

At least winter is a time when I can dress well instead of everything being rumpled and gross looking by the time I've been out of the house for fifteen minutes.

I also am having a disappointing day. Generally feeling irritable for no good reason.

Also, yeah. I haven't turned on floor heating anywhere I've lived in over five years. I do have a small space heater that I'll use sometimes, though.