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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5700 on: July 19, 2018, 03:05:22 pm »
And I do remember reading on here, someone saying that "Koreans think they're the original creators of everything."

I guess it's a bit difficult for such a nationalistic country to accept that they really haven't invented anything. The 6th grade unit on inventors is hilarious. King Sejong invented... something that was invented hundreds of years before his birth.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5701 on: July 19, 2018, 04:08:31 pm »
I do find it peculiar how Korea always seems to have to prove itself

"hangeul is the most scientific writing system"
"kimchi cures all kind of things"
"look at all these things Korea has invented"
"look at how much these foreigners love Korea"
"the Korean wave is taking over the world"

Do other countries push this kind of nonsense, too? Genuine question


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5702 on: July 19, 2018, 04:26:34 pm »
I do find it peculiar how Ontario always seems to have to prove itself

"Ontarian is the most scientific writing system"
"maple syrup cures all kind of things"
"look at all these things Ontario has invented"
"look at how much these foreigners love Ontario"
"the Bieber wave is taking over the world"
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5703 on: July 19, 2018, 04:42:17 pm »
I do find it peculiar how Korea always seems to have to prove itself

"hangeul is the most scientific writing system"
"kimchi cures all kind of things"
"look at all these things Korea has invented"
"look at how much these foreigners love Korea"
"the Korean wave is taking over the world"

Do other countries push this kind of nonsense, too? Genuine question

They have a justified inferiority complex. Their country was built by foreign aid.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5704 on: July 19, 2018, 07:51:10 pm »
I do find it peculiar how Korea always seems to have to prove itself

"hangeul is the most scientific writing system"
"kimchi cures all kind of things"
"look at all these things Korea has invented"
"look at how much these foreigners love Korea"
"the Korean wave is taking over the world"

Do other countries push this kind of nonsense, too? Genuine question

During EPIK orientation, they had us watch a video about how Korea rebuilt itself from its impoverished state many years back. At one point they talked about how a group of Koreans visited another country for reasons I can't quite remember at the moment. These Koreans visited a shipyard in that foreign country, and the person talking in the video claimed that they perfectly memorized the structure just by looking at it and brought it back home to build in Korea. There was audible laughter by many in the room at that moment. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5705 on: July 19, 2018, 08:20:59 pm »
I do find it peculiar how Korea always seems to have to prove itself

"hangeul is the most scientific writing system"
"kimchi cures all kind of things"
"look at all these things Korea has invented"
"look at how much these foreigners love Korea"
"the Korean wave is taking over the world"

Do other countries push this kind of nonsense, too? Genuine question

During EPIK orientation, they had us watch a video about how Korea rebuilt itself from its impoverished state many years back. At one point they talked about how a group of Koreans visited another country for reasons I can't quite remember at the moment. These Koreans visited a shipyard in that foreign country, and the person talking in the video claimed that they perfectly memorized the structure just by looking at it and brought it back home to build in Korea. There was audibly laughter by many in the room at that moment. :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:
yes. i think this was the same video they showed us, back in 2011. everything about that EPIK orientation was the biggest farce


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5706 on: July 20, 2018, 02:52:51 am »
I do find it peculiar how Korea always seems to have to prove itself

"hangeul is the most scientific writing system"
"kimchi cures all kind of things"
"look at all these things Korea has invented"
"look at how much these foreigners love Korea"
"the Korean wave is taking over the world"

Do other countries push this kind of nonsense, too? Genuine question
The Soviet Union. China claims they invented modern bike sharing.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5707 on: July 20, 2018, 07:25:36 am »
Curious currency changing question.  I'm off to Finland to a few days then Zurich for a couple of days, and then Basel for a day and then a week in France.  I want to change 800 000 won into local currency for both countries but can't work out how is best to do it.  Finland and France both have the Euro and then there is the Swiss Franc.  Is it better to change 600 000 won into Euros and 200 000 won into Swiss Francs here or best to do all 800 000 won into Euros ad change again in Europe?  Sorry, if this seems obvious to some but my brain is a bit slow at the end of the semester.   ;D

Generally you will lose money if you change twice, to Euros then to Francs.  I would either change them both here, or use your card for withdrawals abroad.  In my experience the won doesn't travel well.

check out the exchange rates here https://www.kebhana.com/easyone/foreign/index.do#//HanaBank

the lower the 'spread' the better, both francs and euros are under 2 so personally I would change it here.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5708 on: July 20, 2018, 07:42:21 am »
Curious currency changing question.  I'm off to Finland to a few days then Zurich for a couple of days, and then Basel for a day and then a week in France.  I want to change 800 000 won into local currency for both countries but can't work out how is best to do it.  Finland and France both have the Euro and then there is the Swiss Franc.  Is it better to change 600 000 won into Euros and 200 000 won into Swiss Francs here or best to do all 800 000 won into Euros ad change again in Europe?  Sorry, if this seems obvious to some but my brain is a bit slow at the end of the semester.   ;D

Generally you will lose money if you change twice, to Euros then to Francs.  I would either change them both here, or use your card for withdrawals abroad.  In my experience the won doesn't travel well.

check out the exchange rates here https://www.kebhana.com/easyone/foreign/index.do#//HanaBank

the lower the 'spread' the better, both francs and euros are under 2 so personally I would change it here.

I would agree. If you use the KEB online website to order your currency before picking it up, you'll also get an even better value then they list online, but it is only on the Korean site. With all of that and when you go for pick-up, you should also ask about the free travel insurance that you can get (since you're exchanging with them)


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5709 on: July 20, 2018, 07:44:21 am »
Curious currency changing question.  I'm off to Finland to a few days then Zurich for a couple of days, and then Basel for a day and then a week in France.  I want to change 800 000 won into local currency for both countries but can't work out how is best to do it.  Finland and France both have the Euro and then there is the Swiss Franc.  Is it better to change 600 000 won into Euros and 200 000 won into Swiss Francs here or best to do all 800 000 won into Euros ad change again in Europe?  Sorry, if this seems obvious to some but my brain is a bit slow at the end of the semester.   ;D

Generally you will lose money if you change twice, to Euros then to Francs.  I would either change them both here, or use your card for withdrawals abroad.  In my experience the won doesn't travel well.

check out the exchange rates here https://www.kebhana.com/easyone/foreign/index.do#//HanaBank

the lower the 'spread' the better, both francs and euros are under 2 so personally I would change it here.

I would agree. If you use the KEB online website to order your currency before picking it up, you'll also get an even better value then they list online, but it is only on the Korean site. With all of that and when you go for pick-up, you should also ask about the free travel insurance that you can get (since you're exchanging with them)
The travel insurance is free of you buy 300 USD or equivalent.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5710 on: July 20, 2018, 08:38:24 am »
Curious currency changing question.  I'm off to Finland to a few days then Zurich for a couple of days, and then Basel for a day and then a week in France.  I want to change 800 000 won into local currency for both countries but can't work out how is best to do it.  Finland and France both have the Euro and then there is the Swiss Franc.  Is it better to change 600 000 won into Euros and 200 000 won into Swiss Francs here or best to do all 800 000 won into Euros ad change again in Europe?  Sorry, if this seems obvious to some but my brain is a bit slow at the end of the semester.   ;D

They will accept Euros at most places in Switzerland, the issue being whether it will be more favourable to you to pay once (use a big note and get Swiss francs in change) or to pay for each item as you go (you may not be able to spend the change).  Making big payments (hotel etc) on credit card will benefit you too.  the same may apply to Finland.

When the Euro started, all UK shops stated they would accept it as a payment method, the issue was how they would calculate exchange rates, and how to give change.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5711 on: July 20, 2018, 08:52:21 am »


Interesting!!  I don't usually use travel insurance, so might check it out if it is free.




 :huh:

Yikes. I get travel insurance literally every time I travel. When I was in university, I had a friend who didn't take out travel insurance. He got an infection on his foot while travelling, there were complications, he ended up needing some extensive treatment, and he ended up with an $18,000 hospital bill.

I've probably spent about $1500 on travel insurance over my life, and I've never had to use it except for once when the airline lost my luggage. But I still don't consider that money wasted. I literally won't travel without it.

99 times out of 100 everything is cool. But that one time when it's not, dang.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5712 on: July 20, 2018, 09:19:59 am »
Curious currency changing question.  I'm off to Finland to a few days then Zurich for a couple of days, and then Basel for a day and then a week in France.  I want to change 800 000 won into local currency for both countries but can't work out how is best to do it.  Finland and France both have the Euro and then there is the Swiss Franc.  Is it better to change 600 000 won into Euros and 200 000 won into Swiss Francs here or best to do all 800 000 won into Euros ad change again in Europe?  Sorry, if this seems obvious to some but my brain is a bit slow at the end of the semester.   ;D

Generally you will lose money if you change twice, to Euros then to Francs.  I would either change them both here, or use your card for withdrawals abroad.  In my experience the won doesn't travel well.

check out the exchange rates here https://www.kebhana.com/easyone/foreign/index.do#//HanaBank

the lower the 'spread' the better, both francs and euros are under 2 so personally I would change it here.

I would agree. If you use the KEB online website to order your currency before picking it up, you'll also get an even better value then they list online, but it is only on the Korean site. With all of that and when you go for pick-up, you should also ask about the free travel insurance that you can get (since you're exchanging with them)
The travel insurance is free of you buy 300 USD or equivalent.

Yes, and coverage increases with the amount you spend. The most basic is spending 300 (or equiv.), then it goes to 500,  1000, 3000, 5000, 10000.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5713 on: July 20, 2018, 09:37:55 am »


Interesting!!  I don't usually use travel insurance, so might check it out if it is free.




 :huh:

Yikes. I get travel insurance literally every time I travel. When I was in university, I had a friend who didn't take out travel insurance. He got an infection on his foot while travelling, there were complications, he ended up needing some extensive treatment, and he ended up with an $18,000 hospital bill.

I've probably spent about $1500 on travel insurance over my life, and I've never had to use it except for once when the airline lost my luggage. But I still don't consider that money wasted. I literally won't travel without it.

99 times out of 100 everything is cool. But that one time when it's not, dang.
yes, my friend recently went abroad and had a motorcycle accident. not her fault at all, mind you. some drunk guy ran her off the road. she didn't have insurance. the hospital refused to treat her, and she had some serious head injuries. she was actually worried she might be permanently blind (and the embassy was closed for a while as it was lunar new year). finally she got seen and operated on (now, completely better, luckily), but her medical bill was astronomical. even now she has some permanent scars and damage on her face that could have been avoided if she was treated quickly (which she would have been, if she had insurance). scary stuff


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5714 on: July 20, 2018, 09:41:17 am »
Curious currency changing question.  I'm off to Finland to a few days then Zurich for a couple of days, and then Basel for a day and then a week in France.  I want to change 800 000 won into local currency for both countries but can't work out how is best to do it.  Finland and France both have the Euro and then there is the Swiss Franc.  Is it better to change 600 000 won into Euros and 200 000 won into Swiss Francs here or best to do all 800 000 won into Euros ad change again in Europe?  Sorry, if this seems obvious to some but my brain is a bit slow at the end of the semester.   ;D

Generally you will lose money if you change twice, to Euros then to Francs.  I would either change them both here, or use your card for withdrawals abroad.  In my experience the won doesn't travel well.

check out the exchange rates here https://www.kebhana.com/easyone/foreign/index.do#//HanaBank

the lower the 'spread' the better, both francs and euros are under 2 so personally I would change it here.

I would agree. If you use the KEB online website to order your currency before picking it up, you'll also get an even better value then they list online, but it is only on the Korean site. With all of that and when you go for pick-up, you should also ask about the free travel insurance that you can get (since you're exchanging with them)
The travel insurance is free of you buy 300 USD or equivalent.

Yes, and coverage increases with the amount you spend. The most basic is spending 300 (or equiv.), then it goes to 500,  1000, 3000, 5000, 10000.

I even took out travel insurance to visit home (UK) this year.  Especially with a wife and baby in tow, peace of mind in worth 56 quid of anyone's money.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5715 on: July 20, 2018, 09:47:32 am »
Curious currency changing question.  I'm off to Finland to a few days then Zurich for a couple of days, and then Basel for a day and then a week in France.  I want to change 800 000 won into local currency for both countries but can't work out how is best to do it.  Finland and France both have the Euro and then there is the Swiss Franc.  Is it better to change 600 000 won into Euros and 200 000 won into Swiss Francs here or best to do all 800 000 won into Euros ad change again in Europe?  Sorry, if this seems obvious to some but my brain is a bit slow at the end of the semester.   ;D

Generally you will lose money if you change twice, to Euros then to Francs.  I would either change them both here, or use your card for withdrawals abroad.  In my experience the won doesn't travel well.

check out the exchange rates here https://www.kebhana.com/easyone/foreign/index.do#//HanaBank

the lower the 'spread' the better, both francs and euros are under 2 so personally I would change it here.

I would agree. If you use the KEB online website to order your currency before picking it up, you'll also get an even better value then they list online, but it is only on the Korean site. With all of that and when you go for pick-up, you should also ask about the free travel insurance that you can get (since you're exchanging with them)
The travel insurance is free of you buy 300 USD or equivalent.

Yes, and coverage increases with the amount you spend. The most basic is spending 300 (or equiv.), then it goes to 500,  1000, 3000, 5000, 10000.

I even took out travel insurance to visit home (UK) this year.  Especially with a wife and baby in tow, peace of mind in worth 56 quid of anyone's money.

For sure, I agree.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5716 on: July 20, 2018, 10:27:39 am »
I've been hiking in some pretty remote locations with zero travel insurance. I even got injured in a poor part of Eastern Europe (displaced a boulder which fell on my leg) while hiking from one village to another. I completed the hike like an actual man and got help at the village infirmary once I arrived at the village. An awesome experience, and I had the scar to show for it for more than a year. Travel insurance is for pussies.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5717 on: July 20, 2018, 10:30:52 am »
I don't think people are talking about cuts whilst hiking. It's when you're stuck in a hospital for days / weeks needing intensive care where the travel insurance comes in handy. That does sound like a pretty awesome experience you had though  ;D
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5718 on: July 20, 2018, 10:37:05 am »
I don't think people are talking about cuts whilst hiking. It's when you're stuck in a hospital for days / weeks needing intensive care where the travel insurance comes in handy. That does sound like a pretty awesome experience you had though  ;D

A few years back, i arranged to meet a friend in Laos to spend a few days together.  He never met me, as when he was in the south, he broke his collar bone pot holing.  The south of Laos is pretty basic, and the nearest hospital to sort him out was in Thailand.  His travel insurance paid for the air transfer and the hospital stay.  it would have been thousands of dollars otherwise.  Seriously, Insurance should be as important as your passport on a trip abroad.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5719 on: July 20, 2018, 10:59:49 am »
Interesting!!  I don't usually use travel insurance, so might check it out if it is free.
:huh:
Yikes. I get travel insurance literally every time I travel. When I was in university, I had a friend who didn't take out travel insurance. He got an infection on his foot while travelling, there were complications, he ended up needing some extensive treatment, and he ended up with an $18,000 hospital bill.

I've probably spent about $1500 on travel insurance over my life, and I've never had to use it except for once when the airline lost my luggage. But I still don't consider that money wasted. I literally won't travel without it.

99 times out of 100 everything is cool. But that one time when it's not, dang.
yes, my friend recently went abroad and had a motorcycle accident. not her fault at all, mind you. some drunk guy ran her off the road. she didn't have insurance. the hospital refused to treat her, and she had some serious head injuries. she was actually worried she might be permanently blind (and the embassy was closed for a while as it was lunar new year). finally she got seen and operated on (now, completely better, luckily), but her medical bill was astronomical. even now she has some permanent scars and damage on her face that could have been avoided if she was treated quickly (which she would have been, if she had insurance). scary stuff

I know accidents can happen wherever and to whomever, but if I were going to do something like hire a motorcycle (which I wouldn't even do in England), then I'd get insurance.  Doing things that give a higher chance of accidents happening, obviously need some extra protection.  In Mongolia, I was in the countryside and was going horse riding for a day, hence the insurance.
yep, sure. i agree. i generally would never hire a motorbike around SE asia, anyway. then again, it's entirely possible to be hit by a drunk driver while walking on the side of the road, too, so i still think it's not worth not getting insurance (even only for peace of mind)