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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5620 on: July 13, 2018, 08:22:32 am »
School: doesn't turn on lights ever because too it's too expensive
Also school: leaves lights on in teachers room for 12 hours 

School: doesn't let classrooms use A/C because it's too expensive and ceiling fans are too loud
Also school: every teachers room has the A/C set to 18 and runs it all day

I'll never understand lol

Its louder when all the kids are whining it's too hot and have 25 bunny fans running than it is to just turn on my ceiling fan.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5621 on: July 13, 2018, 08:38:07 am »
I automatically nod to people if we make eye contact. It's irritating.

In the UK that's kind of normal, to give a little nod when you walk past someone you know but not very well. Couple it with an 'alright?' and you've had a full-blown conversation  :police:

Its louder when all the kids are whining it's too hot and have 25 bunny fans running than it is to just turn on my ceiling fan.

How's your school been since you made the transition to teaching normal classes? Any improvement?
« Last Edit: October 16, 2018, 03:25:44 pm by Datasapien »
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5622 on: July 13, 2018, 08:38:27 am »
School: doesn't turn on lights ever because too it's too expensive
Also school: leaves lights on in teachers room for 12 hours 

School: doesn't let classrooms use A/C because it's too expensive and ceiling fans are too loud
Also school: every teachers room has the A/C set to 18 and runs it all day

I'll never understand lol

Its louder when all the kids are whining it's too hot and have 25 bunny fans running than it is to just turn on my ceiling fan.

The other day, I was watching this British reality show where court bailiffs try to collect outstanding debts from debtors. One of the cases was to collect from a Korean hagwon type of business operating in London, I'm guessing they taught Korean students who were sent from Korea to study in the UK.
Anyway's, the Korean ladies running the place refused to pay the bailiffs, who were being professional and polite. The bailiffs informed them that if they didn't receive payment, legally they would have no choice but to repossess assets on the premises in lieu of payment. The bailiff turned on the lights in one of the rooms so he could write down the inventory.

The Korean woman absolutely throws a fit, claiming he's running up her bill and asking him who would pay for it.
She then calls the cops and makes accusations that the bailiffs were being violent. The poor bailiffs were completely baffled, their first Korean experience.


Back to Korea, I had the same issue at my Thursday school.
My CT would turn on the AC every 10min, leave it on for 2min, and then switch it off. The students were absolutely miserable and getting them to study was near impossible. Of course, the little lounge attached to the staff room (which is vacant for 90% of the day) was like the inside of a damn freezer.     


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5623 on: July 13, 2018, 08:59:42 am »
School: doesn't turn on lights ever because too it's too expensive
Also school: leaves lights on in teachers room for 12 hours 

School: doesn't let classrooms use A/C because it's too expensive and ceiling fans are too loud
Also school: every teachers room has the A/C set to 18 and runs it all day

I'll never understand lol

Its louder when all the kids are whining it's too hot and have 25 bunny fans running than it is to just turn on my ceiling fan.
yes. korea is full of strange contradictions like this

install a new samsung air con unit into all 50 classrooms (at my old school) --> sorry, air con is too expensive to use (except the principal's office)

get shouted at for leaving the fan on overnight (new school) --> same teacher turns on air con and opens all the windows all day

eating with your hands is dirty --> oh but arbitrary foods like lettuce is okay to eat with your hands, of course

you didn't wash your apple before eating it? that's dirty --> doesn't wash hands after going to the bathroom

you must wear indoor shoes at school --> wears indoor shoes to the bathroom, and in the playground

western food is too salty --> dips meat into pure salt, while eating 된장찌개 and using soy sauce dips

koreans care for their elderly more than western countries --> 75 year old woman picking up cardboard outside

you should speak better korean --> laughs at me when i try and speak korean (this is the worst one)

i feel like such a whiner these days. need a break   :cry:


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5624 on: July 13, 2018, 09:09:55 am »
School: doesn't turn on lights ever because too it's too expensive
Also school: leaves lights on in teachers room for 12 hours 

School: doesn't let classrooms use A/C because it's too expensive and ceiling fans are too loud
Also school: every teachers room has the A/C set to 18 and runs it all day

I'll never understand lol

Its louder when all the kids are whining it's too hot and have 25 bunny fans running than it is to just turn on my ceiling fan.

The other day, I was watching this British reality show where court bailiffs try to collect outstanding debts from debtors. One of the cases was to collect from a Korean hagwon type of business operating in London, I'm guessing they taught Korean students who were sent from Korea to study in the UK.
Anyway's, the Korean ladies running the place refused to pay the bailiffs, who were being professional and polite. The bailiffs informed them that if they didn't receive payment, legally they would have no choice but to repossess assets on the premises in lieu of payment. The bailiff turned on the lights in one of the rooms so he could write down the inventory.

The Korean woman absolutely throws a fit, claiming he's running up her bill and asking him who would pay for it.
She then calls the cops and makes accusations that the bailiffs were being violent. The poor bailiffs were completely baffled, their first Korean experience.


Back to Korea, I had the same issue at my Thursday school.
My CT would turn on the AC every 10min, leave it on for 2min, and then switch it off. The students were absolutely miserable and getting them to study was near impossible. Of course, the little lounge attached to the staff room (which is vacant for 90% of the day) was like the inside of a damn freezer.     

I just wanted to say that I stumbled upon that show on Youtube yesterday (100% randomly). It is called something like Can't Pay, We Take it Away. I like it, and plan to watch an episode later on today. I also like the airport customs shows...pretty good.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5625 on: July 13, 2018, 09:11:23 am »
Korea is full of strange contradictions like this

Expects you to conform to their culture --> Does not offer you a place in that culture despite best efforts to conform.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5626 on: July 13, 2018, 10:00:38 am »

yes. korea is full of strange contradictions like this

install a new samsung air con unit into all 50 classrooms (at my old school) --> sorry, air con is too expensive to use (except the principal's office)

get shouted at for leaving the fan on overnight (new school) --> same teacher turns on air con and opens all the windows all day

eating with your hands is dirty --> oh but arbitrary foods like lettuce is okay to eat with your hands, of course

you didn't wash your apple before eating it? that's dirty --> doesn't wash hands after going to the bathroom

you must wear indoor shoes at school --> wears indoor shoes to the bathroom, and in the playground

western food is too salty --> dips meat into pure salt, while eating 된장찌개 and using soy sauce dips

koreans care for their elderly more than western countries --> 75 year old woman picking up cardboard outside

you should speak better korean --> laughs at me when i try and speak korean (this is the worst one)

i feel like such a whiner these days. need a break   :cry:

The last is definitely the worse. The manager at my local convenience store tells me my Korean is bad while speaking very fast at the same time when he tries to talk to me. Like come on...  :undecided:
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5627 on: July 13, 2018, 10:15:17 am »
The other day, I was watching this British reality show where court bailiffs try to collect outstanding debts from debtors. One of the cases was to collect from a Korean hagwon type of business operating in London, I'm guessing they taught Korean students who were sent from Korea to study in the UK.

That is 10am, weekday smack for the jobless.  'Homes under the Hammer' is my particular favourite.

Yes! 'Homes Under the Hammer' is my jam!  :laugh:


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5628 on: July 13, 2018, 10:20:35 am »
Off topic to the topic I started but!

 I've been interacting with more students lately and I'm starting to realize a lot of them have really common learning disorders. One of the girls I teach is dyslexic, is there anything I can do to help her and make this a little bit easier?

I'm not certified to really help with students with learning disorders or students who are special needs but I've been trying to make the learning environment easier.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5629 on: July 13, 2018, 10:38:17 am »
Off topic to the topic I started but!

 I've been interacting with more students lately and I'm starting to realize a lot of them have really common learning disorders. One of the girls I teach is dyslexic, is there anything I can do to help her and make this a little bit easier?

I'm not certified to really help with students with learning disorders or students who are special needs but I've been trying to make the learning environment easier.

If you are not "certified" to help, you are surely not qualified to diagnose.

You should mention to co-teacher or homeroom teacher what you've observed and tell them you think the student should visit a doctor, who is qualified to make the diagnosis.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5630 on: July 13, 2018, 10:46:44 am »
Off topic to the topic I started but!

 I've been interacting with more students lately and I'm starting to realize a lot of them have really common learning disorders. One of the girls I teach is dyslexic, is there anything I can do to help her and make this a little bit easier?

I'm not certified to really help with students with learning disorders or students who are special needs but I've been trying to make the learning environment easier.

If you are not "certified" to help, you are surely not qualified to diagnose.

You should mention to co-teacher or homeroom teacher what you've observed and tell them you think the student should visit a doctor, who is qualified to make the diagnosis.

....?

 I mean I'm not certified to be a doctor but I can tell you when someone's bleeding from the face.

I did bring it up to the teacher I was with and he admitted she's dyslexic so I'm just trying to create a Better Learning environment. I'm not certified to deal with students who have low functioning autism but I do anyway because that's the position I'm put in.

I'm trying to be proactive and help these students.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5631 on: July 13, 2018, 11:30:45 am »
School: doesn't turn on lights ever because too it's too expensive
Also school: leaves lights on in teachers room for 12 hours 

School: doesn't let classrooms use A/C because it's too expensive and ceiling fans are too loud
Also school: every teachers room has the A/C set to 18 and runs it all day

I'll never understand lol

Its louder when all the kids are whining it's too hot and have 25 bunny fans running than it is to just turn on my ceiling fan.

The other day, I was watching this British reality show where court bailiffs try to collect outstanding debts from debtors. One of the cases was to collect from a Korean hagwon type of business operating in London, I'm guessing they taught Korean students who were sent from Korea to study in the UK.
Anyway's, the Korean ladies running the place refused to pay the bailiffs, who were being professional and polite. The bailiffs informed them that if they didn't receive payment, legally they would have no choice but to repossess assets on the premises in lieu of payment. The bailiff turned on the lights in one of the rooms so he could write down the inventory.

The Korean woman absolutely throws a fit, claiming he's running up her bill and asking him who would pay for it.
She then calls the cops and makes accusations that the bailiffs were being violent. The poor bailiffs were completely baffled, their first Korean experience.


Back to Korea, I had the same issue at my Thursday school.
My CT would turn on the AC every 10min, leave it on for 2min, and then switch it off. The students were absolutely miserable and getting them to study was near impossible. Of course, the little lounge attached to the staff room (which is vacant for 90% of the day) was like the inside of a damn freezer.     

Found it:
http://youtu.be/A_BcXg6n_Bg?t=1616

Not exactly a fit, but lying to the police is an offence.  She probably claimed that she mistranslated what she wanted to say.  Playing the foreigner card if you will.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5632 on: July 13, 2018, 11:34:37 am »
Off topic to the topic I started but!

 I've been interacting with more students lately and I'm starting to realize a lot of them have really common learning disorders. One of the girls I teach is dyslexic, is there anything I can do to help her and make this a little bit easier?

I'm not certified to really help with students with learning disorders or students who are special needs but I've been trying to make the learning environment easier.

Get online and do some reading about dyslexia. The term is a bit outdated, but Korea is behind the times in terms of diagnosing and prescribing help for students with learning issues. Find a simple strategy that you can use in the classroom and start with that. Based on my own experience here, students with learning issues have become so unmotivated to learn, they often don't have the desire to take on extra work. So try to stick with something that works within the lesson. And, she/he is probably very sensitive about not being as good as the other kids (the student's perception), so it's best to be discrete if you can. I was an elementary teacher in the states for more than 20 years, and as much as I would like to help with the lower level kids, it's really challenging with so much learned helplessness and the emphasis placed on grades and scores, and little to no emphasis on effort.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5633 on: July 13, 2018, 11:46:01 am »


Found it:
http://youtu.be/A_BcXg6n_Bg?t=1616

Not exactly a fit, but lying to the police is an offence.  She probably claimed that she mistranslated what she wanted to say.  Playing the foreigner card if you will.
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I had higher expectations. I thought the woman was going to be screaming and crying.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5634 on: July 13, 2018, 01:04:16 pm »
Off topic to the topic I started but!

 I've been interacting with more students lately and I'm starting to realize a lot of them have really common learning disorders. One of the girls I teach is dyslexic, is there anything I can do to help her and make this a little bit easier?

I'm not certified to really help with students with learning disorders or students who are special needs but I've been trying to make the learning environment easier.

If you are not "certified" to help, you are surely not qualified to diagnose.

You should mention to co-teacher or homeroom teacher what you've observed and tell them you think the student should visit a doctor, who is qualified to make the diagnosis.

....?

 I mean I'm not certified to be a doctor but I can tell you when someone's bleeding from the face.

I did bring it up to the teacher I was with and he admitted she's dyslexic so I'm just trying to create a Better Learning environment. I'm not certified to deal with students who have low functioning autism but I do anyway because that's the position I'm put in.

I'm trying to be proactive and help these students.

I don't want to be overly pessimistic, because no matter how difficult it is, we should always try or at least want to try to help, buuuuuut...

Learning disorders are just barely starting to be acknowledged / understood here, and for the most part, a very large portion of the teacher population here just can't comprehend them. ADHD has become something of a buzzword catchall that both medical and education professionals seem to apply very broadly, and students whom many of us may recognize as being somewhere on the autism scale will often just be labeled with a "Oh, he has ADHD."

So, you are very limited to what you can feasibly do to help a lot of those students. And in many cases, you won't be able to help, so the best you can aim for is to do no harm and just continue being nice and understanding on the inside.

I think it could never hurt to read up on the topic to try and be more helpful to students but you will not be able to integrate it fully into your lessons IMO. Based is correct to that with the way that being "different" is treated here it can be difficult to get parents to diagnose their kids.

It can depend greatly on your class dynamic how helpful you can be. I am very lucky to have great coTs where we teach 1/2 the time (ish). Since this is the case whoever is not directing class (or when students are just working) one or both of us can spend most of our time with the lowest level students. In the last year and a half I have had many G6 who could not read at all or hardly speak. Many of them at the start of the semester were very shy. Once you show that you are there to help and constantly do so they usually open up and ask for help while also trying harder.

 While it is true you will not get through to all you can really work hard with those who open up to your help. If they try just always positively reinforce it. Some of the lower students who really try have been some of my favorites and have made real advancements in just a years time. ( Obviously they were studying out of class also and worked on it very hard, sometimes you just need to motivate them to do so)

TL;DR: It is not easy and you need the right resources (another teacher). Showing you care and that it is okay to make mistakes goes a long way.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5635 on: July 16, 2018, 09:00:36 am »
Had my baby's doljanchi yesterday and still trying to make sense of it. When it came time for her to reach for an object, she picked up the Frostmourne... :lipsrsealed:


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5636 on: July 16, 2018, 09:04:56 am »
@ Dave: Are you sure it's more like no bathing/shower after an entire week? Unless it's a field hand or someone who spends a lot of time outside, I can't imagine smelling that bad after only a couple of days. xD

Had my baby's doljanchi yesterday and still trying to make sense of it. When it came time for her to reach for an object, she picked up the Frostmourne... :lipsrsealed:

What were the other options?


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5637 on: July 16, 2018, 09:08:00 am »
There was a forge hammer, windcleaver, red turtle shell, a gavel and a skein of thread.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5638 on: July 16, 2018, 09:09:02 am »
It's strange or not, how one person can change a class, for better or worse.  I have Korean class on Saturdays that I drive for an hour to get to, but as it's free, the petrol price is not so important.  I've been doing this since March and really really love it, and have learned a lot.  The class is a nice mix Chinese/Vietnamese/Japanese etc and we are all good together.  But on Saturday, a guy started, and I'm usually very understanding of pronunciation problems, but this guy kept on interrupting the teacher with his awful pronunciation.  That on it's own is not why I was annoyed, the fact that he absolutely reeked was the main thing.  He was sat in front of me and I actually felt sick because of the smell.  It wasn't a 'just walking here' smell, it was a 'not showered for a couple of days' smell.  The class is for two hours, but I left in the break-time because of the smell.  How can someone not be aware of that kind of thing?  It wasn't like I was getting used to it either, it just came in waves.

God yeah, totally agree with you here.  I used to love my Korean class for similar reasons; tight knit group, lovely people, nice vibe in the classroom.  Then random people started joining and it completely ruined it for me.  No hygeine problems at least but just over confident, brash tw*ts for want of a better word.  I stopped going  :laugh: 


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #5639 on: July 16, 2018, 09:28:47 am »
Had my baby's doljanchi yesterday and still trying to make sense of it. When it came time for her to reach for an object, she picked up the Frostmourne... :lipsrsealed:

Congrats D!  Both for the having the doljanchi and also for your son following in his father's warrior pillaging ways.

Thanks Dave. He's a she but I appreciate the sentiment^^