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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4840 on: April 16, 2018, 08:08:25 pm »
Just dropped 200 000W at Uniqlo. I'm gonna look fresh as shit for my bday party this Sat.

It's in Seongsu, anyone wanna come? haha  :police:
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4841 on: April 16, 2018, 08:46:34 pm »
I've noticed that whenever I try speaking to people in my school in Korean I always get the reaction of like...
"What? Huh? *laughter* What?"

I actually stopped trying to speak and just show them google translate on my phone because that was always the reaction and I felt like I was completely wrong when speaking. But I'd look it up and practice 20 times on my walk to school and say "The weather is good today!" or "Where is the library?" but every reaction was just "what? what?" and I'd get embarrassed and say forget it.

Is it a common occurrence for everyone or are people just shocked/unwilling to communicate?


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4842 on: April 16, 2018, 08:54:17 pm »
I've noticed that whenever I try speaking to people in my school in Korean I always get the reaction of like...
"What? Huh? *laughter* What?"

I actually stopped trying to speak and just show them google translate on my phone because that was always the reaction and I felt like I was completely wrong when speaking. But I'd look it up and practice 20 times on my walk to school and say "The weather is good today!" or "Where is the library?" but every reaction was just "what? what?" and I'd get embarrassed and say forget it.

Is it a common occurrence for everyone or are people just shocked/unwilling to communicate?

Koreans learn English using the Korean alphabet, and as such pronounce everything in Korean.  as such it can be almost impossible to understand, but the system is broken beyond repair and they expect you to understand what they are (badly, really badly) saying.  If you can't it is your fault for not making the mental leap.

As for speaking Korean, if you make even the most miniscule deviation from the standard pronunciation, Koreans will not attempt to guess what they think you mean, nor offer a suggestion.  they will look at you blankly, and when they find out what you mean will announce it as if you were a million miles away, and then laugh at the (non-existent) distance between the 2 pronunciations.  I mean, can they not venture a guess is you  say "방" instead of "빵".  Sure it is a bit funny (akin to kitchen and chicken) but seriously, it aint that much of a stretch...


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4843 on: April 17, 2018, 08:25:44 am »
Just dropped 200 000W at Uniqlo. I'm gonna look fresh as shit for my bday party this Sat.

It's in Seongsu, anyone wanna come? haha  :police:
Fresh as shit? Really?  :laugh:

Anyway, happiest of birthdays! And remember, it's not 1 year closer to the grave if you plan on living forever!  ;D


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4844 on: April 17, 2018, 08:35:11 am »
I've noticed that whenever I try speaking to people in my school in Korean I always get the reaction of like...
"What? Huh? *laughter* What?"

I actually stopped trying to speak and just show them google translate on my phone because that was always the reaction and I felt like I was completely wrong when speaking. But I'd look it up and practice 20 times on my walk to school and say "The weather is good today!" or "Where is the library?" but every reaction was just "what? what?" and I'd get embarrassed and say forget it.

Is it a common occurrence for everyone or are people just shocked/unwilling to communicate?

something similar happened to my yesterday. i was leaving the gym and i saw this older man (mid 40's i would guess) walking into the gym. we have seen each other inside the gym many times. i am only foreigner that goes to this place. there are NO OTHER shops or restaurants inside this building yet. my gym is on the 7th floor and every other floor of the building is completely empty.  the gym is the ONLY business open inside this building. if you are going into or out of this building, it's because you belong to this gym.

as i'm walking out and he's walking in, i hold the door for him and greet him in korean. he stands there and stares. we are both in the doorway with me holding the door open awkwardly. i ask him in korean if he's going to the gym. he stands there and doesn't answer but continues to just stare at me. i could tell he was a bit shocked that a stranger (and foreigner) for that matter was trying to make small talk with him. what got me frustrated was i was speaking korean...how/why could this dude not just hit me with an anyong and be on his way. he just completely froze and stood there. keep in mind, this wasn't some rice farmer that has lived out in the sticks his whole life that has never had convo with a foreigner, this is a businessman in a suit carrying a briefcase. it was so awkward i just said something like, allllright then and walked out of the doorway while he was still standing there.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4845 on: April 17, 2018, 08:36:49 am »
I've noticed that whenever I try speaking to people in my school in Korean I always get the reaction of like...
"What? Huh? *laughter* What?"

I actually stopped trying to speak and just show them google translate on my phone because that was always the reaction and I felt like I was completely wrong when speaking. But I'd look it up and practice 20 times on my walk to school and say "The weather is good today!" or "Where is the library?" but every reaction was just "what? what?" and I'd get embarrassed and say forget it.

Is it a common occurrence for everyone or are people just shocked/unwilling to communicate?

Koreans learn English using the Korean alphabet, and as such pronounce everything in Korean.  as such it can be almost impossible to understand, but the system is broken beyond repair and they expect you to understand what they are (badly, really badly) saying.  If you can't it is your fault for not making the mental leap.

As for speaking Korean, if you make even the most miniscule deviation from the standard pronunciation, Koreans will not attempt to guess what they think you mean, nor offer a suggestion.  they will look at you blankly, and when they find out what you mean will announce it as if you were a million miles away, and then laugh at the (non-existent) distance between the 2 pronunciations.  I mean, can they not venture a guess is you  say "방" instead of "빵".  Sure it is a bit funny (akin to kitchen and chicken) but seriously, it aint that much of a stretch...

You oughta try being fluent and getting waved off by someone when they don't even listen to what you are saying. It's like they turn off their ears and start day dreaming or something. Frustrating as ****. When they do that to me (usually a bus driver) I just say something along the lines of 'oh, I'm sorry I thought you spoke Korean, I didn't realize foreigners could drive a bus for a living, how did you get this job without knowing Korean?' and they shit themselves. I guess a little different to yours but still the same ignorance.

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4846 on: April 17, 2018, 08:52:20 am »
I've noticed that whenever I try speaking to people in my school in Korean I always get the reaction of like...
"What? Huh? *laughter* What?"

I actually stopped trying to speak and just show them google translate on my phone because that was always the reaction and I felt like I was completely wrong when speaking. But I'd look it up and practice 20 times on my walk to school and say "The weather is good today!" or "Where is the library?" but every reaction was just "what? what?" and I'd get embarrassed and say forget it.

Is it a common occurrence for everyone or are people just shocked/unwilling to communicate?

Koreans learn English using the Korean alphabet, and as such pronounce everything in Korean.  as such it can be almost impossible to understand, but the system is broken beyond repair and they expect you to understand what they are (badly, really badly) saying.  If you can't it is your fault for not making the mental leap.

As for speaking Korean, if you make even the most miniscule deviation from the standard pronunciation, Koreans will not attempt to guess what they think you mean, nor offer a suggestion.  they will look at you blankly, and when they find out what you mean will announce it as if you were a million miles away, and then laugh at the (non-existent) distance between the 2 pronunciations.  I mean, can they not venture a guess is you  say "방" instead of "빵".  Sure it is a bit funny (akin to kitchen and chicken) but seriously, it aint that much of a stretch...

You oughta try being fluent and getting waved off by someone when they don't even listen to what you are saying. It's like they turn off their ears and start day dreaming or something. Frustrating as ****. When they do that to me (usually a bus driver) I just say something along the lines of 'oh, I'm sorry I thought you spoke Korean, I didn't realize foreigners could drive a bus for a living, how did you get this job without knowing Korean?' and they shit themselves. I guess a little different to yours but still the same ignorance.

im jealous of you lol.

i always play those situations back in my head like and i'll think of the perfect comeback like 3 days later.
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4847 on: April 17, 2018, 10:00:55 am »

You oughta try being fluent and getting waved off by someone when they don't even listen to what you are saying. It's like they turn off their ears and start day dreaming or something. Frustrating as ****. When they do that to me (usually a bus driver) I just say something along the lines of 'oh, I'm sorry I thought you spoke Korean, I didn't realize foreigners could drive a bus for a living, how did you get this job without knowing Korean?' and they shit themselves. I guess a little different to yours but still the same ignorance.

Reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLt5qSm9U80


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4848 on: April 17, 2018, 10:39:15 am »
Seems like it's a pretty common thing!



Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4849 on: April 17, 2018, 10:48:17 am »
Today on salary day, I had the health insurance readjustment payment for 2017 of about 100 000 won go out of my salary on top of the usual monthly amount.  I asked my co-teacher who is sick quite a lot.  Her's was almost a plus payment.  She told me I need to be sick more.  Surely you should be rewarded for being healthy, not penalised?  :undecided:

You're not contributing to the economy by being healthy Dave. Bad boy.

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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4850 on: April 17, 2018, 11:30:25 am »
Today on salary day, I had the health insurance readjustment payment for 2017 of about 100 000 won go out of my salary on top of the usual monthly amount.  I asked my co-teacher who is sick quite a lot.  Her's was almost a plus payment.  She told me I need to be sick more.  Surely you should be rewarded for being healthy, not penalised?  :undecided:

She worked less, so earned less, so pays less healthcare tax.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4851 on: April 17, 2018, 11:40:36 am »
and live more carefree.

Def read that as "have more coffee" upon skimming.

That's my advice. Always more coffee. 
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4852 on: April 17, 2018, 12:27:07 pm »

You oughta try being fluent and getting waved off by someone when they don't even listen to what you are saying. It's like they turn off their ears and start day dreaming or something. Frustrating as ****. When they do that to me (usually a bus driver) I just say something along the lines of 'oh, I'm sorry I thought you spoke Korean, I didn't realize foreigners could drive a bus for a living, how did you get this job without knowing Korean?' and they shit themselves. I guess a little different to yours but still the same ignorance.

Reminded me of this:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oLt5qSm9U80

First time I visited Japan, I was with a group of non-Asians.

I am not Japanese nor am I fluent but I got mistaken for their tour guide  :blank:  :laugh:  :laugh:  :cry: I could only explain I wasn't Japanese and where I was actually from.

However, this led to seeing a cool art exhibition! The person who mistook me for Japanese happened to be a super friendly photographer  ;D


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4853 on: April 17, 2018, 01:20:01 pm »
Uber Eats often sends me email at ~12:10... after I have given up and decided to eat crap.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4854 on: April 17, 2018, 01:27:15 pm »
I've noticed that whenever I try speaking to people in my school in Korean I always get the reaction of like...
"What? Huh? *laughter* What?"

I actually stopped trying to speak and just show them google translate on my phone because that was always the reaction and I felt like I was completely wrong when speaking. But I'd look it up and practice 20 times on my walk to school and say "The weather is good today!" or "Where is the library?" but every reaction was just "what? what?" and I'd get embarrassed and say forget it.

Is it a common occurrence for everyone or are people just shocked/unwilling to communicate?

That's why I don't even bother trying to speak most of the time. In my Korean classes, I'm told I have good pronunciation (far beyond my classmates at that), but any time I want to try using my words outside of class I get the same reactions. It's funny because people are super curious as to if you are learning/know any Korean, but are (often, not always) no help when you try. It's easier to play the dumb foreigner in every case rather than try to communicate in a one-sided conversation
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4855 on: April 17, 2018, 01:44:39 pm »
Does it bother you that people are frustrated by this, Basedcowboy? Do you think it's unreasonable for someone to be upset under these circumstances? I can't quite figure out why you feel the need to repeatedly come to bat for Koreans in this case.

People aren't saying "I have perfect Korean and they don't understand me! Wah!" They recognize and admit to being beginners, and are frustrated that, paltry though their efforts may be, they're consistently stonewalled just for trying. Sure, things might get better as their skills improve, but that doesn't make it any less irritating for them now.

It's cool that you don't take the apologist schtick anywhere near as far as Mr. D does, but even taking the low-key apologist route doesn't make too much sense in cases like this.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4856 on: April 17, 2018, 01:56:23 pm »
In my first year here, I attempted to start learning Korean, and any small mistake in my first few attempts resulted with anger from co-workers, and people in a language exchange group. I 'noped' outta giving it a try for the rest of the year. This second year, my co-workers are more chill, and try to teach me just 1 Korean word a week. Even if I say it wrong, pronunciation wise, they usually know what I'm trying to say though. :D


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4857 on: April 17, 2018, 02:05:50 pm »
Am I the only one who is not misunderstood? I think growing up learning French immersion from the age of 5 gave me an edge, in the sense that making different sounds with my mouth isn't really that taxing.

I can't speak for anyone here, I don't know you, nor have I heard you speak, but some people I go out with, my lord, just awful.

You know when I joke around and write Korean in the English alphabet and absolutely butcher it? Some of my friends sound like this and it's................... so cringey.

I don't care and I'm not judging them like they're idiots, but expect locals to understand them? No way.

 :afro: Sadayng yawk gajuh sayyo (사데잉 역 가쯔 세이요)

I've had people say Sindorim pronounced like Pandorum and the sin part like, well, the biblical term. And then they get flustered and say it louder.

The dude is 60. He doesn't know sadyang or Sindorum. Hahahahaha
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  • yirj17
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4858 on: April 17, 2018, 02:06:54 pm »
Every time I see an old person feeding pigeons I wonder if it's tuppence a bag.


  • Mister Tim
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #4859 on: April 17, 2018, 02:07:49 pm »


These exact same situations literally happened to me, and, as I said, they were, quote, "dumb and annoying."

But, rather than just sympathize with their frustrations, I also wanted to share a different perspective from someone who has been here a little bit longer than they have, and also explain certain aspects, such as why it's so novel to hear someone speaking Korean as a second language and why it's so commonly misunderstood when people are first learning. And also that it's not endemic to all people speaking Korean. There are literally reasons for why people may be giggling or having difficulty understanding, and it's an oversimplification to just say 'haha because Korea.'

I dunno. It seems like you're "offering a different perspective" in the same way Mr. D does when he counters things people say in other threads. Maybe I'm reading more condescension than you're intending. Maybe I'm letting my annoyance at the tired "waygook user so-and-so" nonsense color my perceptions of your posts too much.