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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1280 on: September 22, 2016, 03:03:14 pm »

I'm far from Teacher of the Year but this honestly seems really mean.

It does seem mean but I am guilty of letting students get to me so much so that I now regret some things that I have said to them in the past. My first year teaching I had a faily high level class that was really social and just wanted to talk during my lectures. I would constantly have to shout their names out and tell them to be quiet so much so that they too learned the words rude, annoying, and ridiculous.

Not all kids are angels. Looking back on it I wouldn't have called them those things but I can definitely also remember being so frustrated and genuinely angry with them.

HEY AT LEAST I DIDNT PUNCH ANY OF THEM ^^

Yeah but to enlist other students to ridicule the kid? Come on.

Yeah sorry Moonbrie I agree, but I imagine you weren't having the best day so benefit of the doubt.

I get it though, sometimes I have some of those kids that I just....I just want to see them like fall over or something, or drop their ice cream. :laugh:

 Anyway, these days I try to understand them. They aren't all massive a-holes and some have genuine problems. I know that's a bit cringey .

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

To OP, I get that some of the kids are annoying--I have a few students that I'd like to punch all the way back to their homeroom, and trust me, there are days when I lose it and I yell at them, but that's not the same as actively singling someone out and saying things to them that you know they don't understand, whether or not it's their own fault. On top of that, you got other students in on it while talking about that student right in front of him. I'm sure it was just a slip-up this time but you should definitely be more careful and check yourself next time.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1281 on: September 22, 2016, 03:06:34 pm »


Yeah sorry Moonbrie I agree, but I imagine you weren't having the best day so benefit of the doubt.

I get it though, sometimes I have some of those kids that I just....I just want to see them like fall over or something, or drop their ice cream. :laugh:

 Anyway, these days I try to understand them. They aren't all massive a-holes and some have genuine problems. I know that's a bit cringey .

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

To OP, I get that some of the kids are annoying--I have a few students that I'd like to punch all the way back to their homeroom, and trust me, there are days when I lose it and I yell at them, but that's not the same as actively singling someone out and saying things to them that you know they don't understand, whether or not it's their own fault. On top of that, you got other students in on it while talking about that student right in front of him. I'm sure it was just a slip-up this time but you should definitely be more careful and check yourself next time.

I actually legit thought he would know what I said since we literally learned "____ is annoying" ._.

I should've said something like "Donghun, you're loud" but "annoying" was the first thing in my head because I've been teaching it all week :/
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1282 on: September 22, 2016, 03:17:24 pm »


Yeah sorry Moonbrie I agree, but I imagine you weren't having the best day so benefit of the doubt.

I get it though, sometimes I have some of those kids that I just....I just want to see them like fall over or something, or drop their ice cream. :laugh:

 Anyway, these days I try to understand them. They aren't all massive a-holes and some have genuine problems. I know that's a bit cringey .

 :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh: :laugh:

To OP, I get that some of the kids are annoying--I have a few students that I'd like to punch all the way back to their homeroom, and trust me, there are days when I lose it and I yell at them, but that's not the same as actively singling someone out and saying things to them that you know they don't understand, whether or not it's their own fault. On top of that, you got other students in on it while talking about that student right in front of him. I'm sure it was just a slip-up this time but you should definitely be more careful and check yourself next time.

I actually legit thought he would know what I said since we literally learned "____ is annoying" ._.

I should've said something like "Donghun, you're loud" but "annoying" was the first thing in my head because I've been teaching it all week :/

Yeah, I get it. I've definitely made fun of my students before, but everyone knows I'm just teasing them and they actually like it for some reason. The students fight to be the one to be teased which I think is kind of weird but at least they're not taking offense. On the other hand, if it starts to escalate like it did in your situation, you have to know when to put a stop to it and let the other students know that it's not okay. It's not so much your word choice as it is how you handled the situation. Like I said, it was probably just a slip-up but you can just keep it in mind if it happens again. We all make mistakes. No big deal.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1283 on: September 22, 2016, 03:19:20 pm »

that's not the same as actively singling someone out and saying things to them that you know they don't understand, whether or not it's their own fault.

She didn't "actively single him out," he approached her on his own between classes.

On top of that, you got other students in on it while talking about that student right in front of him.

She didn't get other students in on it, he did. Moonbrie didn't say anything to the other students, or tell the annoying kid to ask them what she said. He didn't understand, so he asked someone else who happened to be nearby. It was only after several other students (voluntarily) involved themselves that OP mentioned his routine.


I can understand you guys thinking it's wrong to call a student annoying, but there's no need to make things sound worse than they are by twisting things around.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1284 on: September 22, 2016, 03:22:57 pm »

I actually legit thought he would know what I said since we literally learned "____ is annoying" ._.

I should've said something like "Donghun, you're loud" but "annoying" was the first thing in my head because I've been teaching it all week :/

Yeah, I get it. I've definitely made fun of my students before, but everyone knows I'm just teasing them and they actually like it for some reason. The students fight to be the one to be teased which I think is kind of weird but at least they're not taking offense. On the other hand, if it starts to escalate like it did in your situation, you have to know when to put a stop to it and let the other students know that it's not okay. It's not so much your word choice as it is how you handled the situation. Like I said, it was probably just a slip-up but you can just keep it in mind if it happens again. We all make mistakes. No big deal.

Yeah, I'm not particularly good at classroom management...especi ally when it's not actually class time yet and all the students are running around, wrestling each other, and yelling. If my coteacher had been there she probably would've straightfowardly told him the meaning of the word in Korean and told him to stop bugging me while I was setting up (preventing all that followed), but even though I know it by sound I can't remember it off the top of my head.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1285 on: September 23, 2016, 08:32:00 am »
._. It's nice that my new principal is so nice, but it's starting to weird me out a little.

Today's meeting:
- tells me that I need to be active and smile and greet the students more, that my smile is so beautiful but I look so serious most of the time
- asks me why I don't eat the school lunch, says that in Korea we should really eat lunch together
- gives me one of those hotdogs from the bakery and an egg
- mentions how beautiful it would look if I styled my hair a certain way, then does my hair for me
- says she wants me to come down to her office more often
- asks if she can come to my apartment sometime so she can see if I need anything and buy it for me since I'm "like her daughter"

I asked afterwards to the head english teacher if I don't smile enough and she said yes ._. ugh


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1286 on: September 23, 2016, 08:35:24 am »
._. It's nice that my new principal is so nice, but it's starting to weird me out a little.

Today's meeting:
- tells me that I need to be active and smile and greet the students more, that my smile is so beautiful but I look so serious most of the time
- asks me why I don't eat the school lunch, says that in Korea we should really eat lunch together
- gives me one of those hotdogs from the bakery and an egg
- mentions how beautiful it would look if I styled my hair a certain way, then does my hair for me
- says she wants me to come down to her office more often
- asks if she can come to my apartment sometime so she can see if I need anything and buy it for me since I'm "like her daughter"

I asked afterwards to the head english teacher if I don't smile enough and she said yes ._. ugh
I was reading these assuming it was a male principal and it was indeed quite weird. But no matter what, the last one is a little odd if you aren't close. And since its the principal, you likely aren't.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1287 on: September 23, 2016, 08:46:51 am »
._. It's nice that my new principal is so nice, but it's starting to weird me out a little.

Today's meeting:
- tells me that I need to be active and smile and greet the students more, that my smile is so beautiful but I look so serious most of the time
- asks me why I don't eat the school lunch, says that in Korea we should really eat lunch together
- gives me one of those hotdogs from the bakery and an egg
- mentions how beautiful it would look if I styled my hair a certain way, then does my hair for me
- says she wants me to come down to her office more often
- asks if she can come to my apartment sometime so she can see if I need anything and buy it for me since I'm "like her daughter"

I asked afterwards to the head english teacher if I don't smile enough and she said yes ._. ugh
I was reading these assuming it was a male principal and it was indeed quite weird. But no matter what, the last one is a little odd if you aren't close. And since its the principal, you likely aren't.

Oh yeah, I would be very uncomfortable if she wasn't a woman.

I'm a bit uncomfortable over the whole insistence that I have to smile more. When I asked my boss about it she said "you're a special person in the school so everyone hopes you will smile at them and say hello" I don't think I'm particularly unfriendly, but after you've been working somewhere for several months I feel like it's a bit burdensome to be required to greet every single person you see in the hall... it's not as if I ignore them, I always nod or bow at least....

yay one more thing to be anxious about


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1288 on: September 23, 2016, 09:08:04 am »
Classes canceled at my travel school so I get a day of desk warming at my main school. Have to plan midterms but at least I have a full day to get it done rather than in the time between classes during the week.

Bonus: Students are confused when they see me cause I'm not at this school on Fridays. "Teacher what? Teacher why?"


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1289 on: September 23, 2016, 09:18:53 am »
._. It's nice that my new principal is so nice, but it's starting to weird me out a little.

Today's meeting:
- tells me that I need to be active and smile and greet the students more, that my smile is so beautiful but I look so serious most of the time
- asks me why I don't eat the school lunch, says that in Korea we should really eat lunch together
- gives me one of those hotdogs from the bakery and an egg
- mentions how beautiful it would look if I styled my hair a certain way, then does my hair for me
- says she wants me to come down to her office more often
- asks if she can come to my apartment sometime so she can see if I need anything and buy it for me since I'm "like her daughter"

I asked afterwards to the head english teacher if I don't smile enough and she said yes ._. ugh
I was reading these assuming it was a male principal and it was indeed quite weird. But no matter what, the last one is a little odd if you aren't close. And since its the principal, you likely aren't.

Oh yeah, I would be very uncomfortable if she wasn't a woman.

I'm a bit uncomfortable over the whole insistence that I have to smile more. When I asked my boss about it she said "you're a special person in the school so everyone hopes you will smile at them and say hello" I don't think I'm particularly unfriendly, but after you've been working somewhere for several months I feel like it's a bit burdensome to be required to greet every single person you see in the hall... it's not as if I ignore them, I always nod or bow at least....

yay one more thing to be anxious about
It sounds like one of those street men. "Hey. you'd be so pretty if you smiled." I think its just the typical wanting to show off the foreigner thing, make sure that everyone feels good. But as long as you are greeting, I think you're fine. I sure as heck never smile at all of them, just the little nod.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1290 on: September 23, 2016, 09:28:44 am »
._. It's nice that my new principal is so nice, but it's starting to weird me out a little.

Today's meeting:
- tells me that I need to be active and smile and greet the students more, that my smile is so beautiful but I look so serious most of the time

I asked afterwards to the head english teacher if I don't smile enough and she said yes ._. ugh
I was reading these assuming it was a male principal and it was indeed quite weird. But no matter what, the last one is a little odd if you aren't close. And since its the principal, you likely aren't.

Oh yeah, I would be very uncomfortable if she wasn't a woman.

I'm a bit uncomfortable over the whole insistence that I have to smile more. When I asked my boss about it she said "you're a special person in the school so everyone hopes you will smile at them and say hello" I don't think I'm particularly unfriendly, but after you've been working somewhere for several months I feel like it's a bit burdensome to be required to greet every single person you see in the hall... it's not as if I ignore them, I always nod or bow at least....

yay one more thing to be anxious about
It sounds like one of those street men. "Hey. you'd be so pretty if you smiled." I think its just the typical wanting to show off the foreigner thing, make sure that everyone feels good. But as long as you are greeting, I think you're fine. I sure as heck never smile at all of them, just the little nod.

Yeah, I definitely got the same feeling re: "showing off the foreigner"

I just asked another coteacher and she said that she noticed yesterday I didn't greet a student who greeted me, and of course it was one of the yellers. I tried to explain that it's really impolite to scream hello at your teacher, and that's probably why I didn't respond, but she just said it was a cultural difference.

Whatever. If they think I'm rude, I'm rude. idgaf. Just one more reason to look forward to leaving haha


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1291 on: September 23, 2016, 09:38:26 am »
Reminds me a little of the creep in my main school's admin office. Except he is male and most indubitably a creep. Liked showing me off to new people like a shiny toy and always made comments on my "attractiveness."

Some people are genuinely kind but he is the type of nosy git that only acts nice in order to further his own agenda or expect some favor in return

I hope your principal is the former.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1292 on: September 23, 2016, 09:42:48 am »
I think she is genuinely kind, it's just a bit much especially considering the old principal talked to me like...once o-o

Really gotta ramp the cleaning of my apartment though haha I didn't know how to tell her not to come. I tried the whole "Oh but it's so small, it's not interesting, you don't have to come" but because I'm "like her daughter" she really wants to


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1293 on: September 23, 2016, 09:51:01 am »
Admin guy used to go on about me being like "a younger sister" to him. Lol bruh you way too old and what kinda brother continually makes comments on how "good" his sister looks? Hurk


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1294 on: September 23, 2016, 10:13:24 am »
Ugh, it says that my personal computer's connected to the internet but nothing will load. Wtf is with this evil ****?

The dark overloads of misery and workplace-woe are powerless against the restart button, though.

I dreamed about this last night. This is my life now.


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1295 on: September 23, 2016, 10:37:25 am »
Ugh, it says that my personal computer's connected to the internet but nothing will load. Wtf is with this evil ****?

The dark overloads of misery and workplace-woe are powerless against the restart button, though.

I dreamed about this last night. This is my life now.

It could be that the battery in your motherboard is dead and it won't remember the time or date.

I find that if the time is out of whack on my computer, that it won't load a lot of the websites I want to go to.
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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1296 on: September 23, 2016, 10:48:37 am »
._. It's nice that my new principal is so nice, but it's starting to weird me out a little.

Today's meeting:
- tells me that I need to be active and smile and greet the students more, that my smile is so beautiful but I look so serious most of the time
- asks me why I don't eat the school lunch, says that in Korea we should really eat lunch together
- gives me one of those hotdogs from the bakery and an egg
- mentions how beautiful it would look if I styled my hair a certain way, then does my hair for me
- says she wants me to come down to her office more often
- asks if she can come to my apartment sometime so she can see if I need anything and buy it for me since I'm "like her daughter"

I asked afterwards to the head english teacher if I don't smile enough and she said yes ._. ugh

Feeling very thankful my principal usually just reads a paper in his office and probably peaces out at like 11am. But man that "look cheerful" and "smile more" bullshit has got to go. Like uh oh the foreigner appliance is broken.


Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1297 on: September 23, 2016, 12:55:25 pm »
I am not sure what to feel right now.

I think for the first time in my life, I feel both empty but strangely fulfilled. 

All the way back in March I got a new box of Korean staples for my stapler.  I looked at the box and it said '5000 pcs'.  Wow!  I thought.  That's a lot. I've never ever finished a box of staples, even back in England, I'd lose a box or never get close to finishing a box of staples. 

But today, I finished my last staple from that box.  The box is now empty.  Maybe reflecting my life.  What to do now?  As it is Friday, I either have a glass of wine later, or have a shuffle into a sock.  Should it be a celebration?  Or a wake?  5000?  So many.

I will now destroy your accomplishment and belittle it.  I bet a coworker borrowed a row of staples out of the pack and didn't tell you.   :laugh:  :evil:

Also, what is shuffle into a sock?  Is that a euphemism for solo happy time?


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1298 on: September 23, 2016, 12:55:34 pm »
I have such bad anxiety today! I just want to go home  :sad:


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Re: A thread for pointless Friday ramblings.
« Reply #1299 on: September 23, 2016, 01:06:40 pm »
I can be very opinionated and I studied political science in uni (that isn't to say I know more than anyone, haha) so I do love a good debate, and I think debating on the internet is very important.

Many people claim this is a waste of time. Don't feed the trolls, it isn't the real world etc.

I disagree. I believe the internet is incredibly important to discussion and communication. It's the new town square. If I set up a debate in front of city hall, who would come? Maybe not many people, and it would be a large endeavor involving many people and many hours of work. It might not be worth the payoff, I'm just K. GrXXX, no one gives a shit.

But, online I'm CO2. In an instant, I can jump into the foray and voice opinions of mine to dozens, or hundreds, thousands, perhaps millions in the right forum or website. And to brush aside debates between the netizens of earth is foolish.

Because, the main point is this. You don't debate anyone, in real life, or here on the net, to change THEIR mind. Do you really think Christopher Hitchens was trying to convert Sharpton, or different pastors to a secular, atheistic worldview? Nonsense.

We debate our views for those in the wings, those onlookers, bystanders and political pundits who don't care to share their voice, but will look on and nod accordingly. For those who aren't the experts, for those who only brushed the surface of a subject or belief and who wish to delve further. You don't debate to change the opponent, you do it to influence the hordes of invisible onlookers that reside in the roots of this great tree we call the web. These are the ones whom your voice will reach and influence. Never forget that.

So, the next time you're debating a troll, or even someone earnest with whom you butt heads on a particular topic, remember that there are those voiceless netizens in the stands, waiting and thinking about what you write. They might just agree with you.

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This is why it's so important to  maintain a level head during a debate online. Voice yor opinions, know your shit and get it out succinctly and clearly. Let the other person devolve into "You f**ing retard." "Yeah, you would say that." "Oh, you're American, what would you know?" These things may rile you up but it only hurts their stature in the forum that they're in.
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