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  • tamjen
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    • June 19, 2013, 08:08:14 am
Busy People vs. Productive People
« on: June 19, 2015, 10:29:55 am »
I have heard, as I am sure most everyone here has, Korean colleagues say "I'm so busy".

This article rings rather true.

11 Differences Between Busy People And Productive People
PRODUCTIVITY BY CONOR NEILL

I spent a day with the world’s number one ultraman Kilian Jornet back in 2010. He told me about the difference between his life in the mountains and the life he sees in the city.

Kilian spends most of his life in the mountains. He will run up and down Everest next year. He has already run up and down Kilimanjaro, Aconcagua, Montblanc and Cervino (setting the record for the fastest ascent on each). He says that he knows his destination, but is often doubtful about the exact path – he is very aware of surroundings, of changes in the weather, of loose rocks. He is constantly adjusting his path.

He told me that a few times a year he arrives into the city of Barcelona in his campervan. He parks. He gets out. He sees people walking confidently up and down the street. Everyone is walking with such confidence. They look so sure in their intention. They are sure of their steps… but they have no idea where they are going.

This is one of the differences between busy people and productive people. Read on to find out what this difference is and to get to know 10 more differences.

1. Busy people want to look like they have a mission. Productive people have a mission for their lives.
Busy people hide their doubt about the destination of their lives by acting confident in their little steps.

Productive people allow others to see the doubt in their little steps because they are clear on the destination.

2. Busy people have many priorities. Productive people have few priorities
Nobody is ever too busy, if they care they will make time. Life is a question of priorities. If you have 3 priorities, you have priorities. If you have 25 priorities, you have a mess.

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The pareto priniciple is that 80% of your desired results come from 20% of your activity. Henry Ford built a fortune not by building better cars, but by building a better system for making cars. Busy people try to make better cars, productive people develop better systems for making cars.

3. Busy people say yes quickly. Productive people say yes slowly
Warren Buffet’s definition of integrity is: “You say no to most things”.

If you don’t say “no” to most things, you are diving your life up into millions of little pieces spread out amongst other people’s priorities. Integrity is that your values are clear and that your time is going to serve those values.

4. Busy people focus on action. Productive people focus on clarity before action
To focus on the top 20% of activities, you must gain clarity about what those activities are for yourself. The greatest resource you will ever have to guide you to live a good life is your own personal experience – if well documented. Sadly, most people only document their life in facebook status updates. Keep a diary and take 5 minutes every day to reflect on the past day, on what worked, on what didn’t work; and some time on what inspires you.

5. Busy people keep all doors open. Productive people close doors
As a young person it is good to open options. It is good to want to travel, to learn languages, to climb mountains, to go to university, to work in tech, to live in another country. However, there comes a point in life where one must let go of most options and focus. If my goal this year is to learn spanish – I will speak spanish at the end of the year. If my goal this year is to speak spanish, earn 30% more, travel to 10 countries, get fit, find a girlfriend, go to all the concerts… I will not speak spanish at the end of this year.

6. Busy people talk about how busy they are. Productive people let their results do the talking
Stephen King says: “A writer is a producer of words. Produce words: you are a writer. Don’t produce words: you are not a writer”.

It is a clear binary thing. Talking about writing is not writing. Published authors don’t talk about their next book – they are focussed on producing it. I have grown to have less and less interest in what people tell me that they are going to do – I ask them what they have already done. Past performance is the only good indicator of future performance.

Feeling productive is not the same as being productive. This is important. I can feel productive while I’m playing minecraft. I can feel unproductive while I’m producing an excellent blog post that will help others take better actions.

7. Busy people talk about how little time they have. Productive people make time for what is important
Any time we spend on excuses is time not spent on creation. If you allow yourself to practice excuses, you will get better and better at excuses. Productive people don’t use time as an excuse. An action either supports their highest values and mission, or it does not. If it does not, they don’t do it – even if they have a whole day off.

There is an Irish saying: “It is better to do something than nothing”.

This is a lie! It is better to do nothing than to do an action that doesn’t connect with your highest values. Sit still.

8. Busy people multitask. Productive people focus
Productive people know about focus.

Do you know about the Pomodoro technique? It is brutal, but it is effective. Identify a task to be done (for instance, write this blog post). Set a timer to 20 minutes. Work on the task until the time sounds. Any distraction (I must check email, I must get some water, I must go to the bathroom) and you reset the timer to 20. How many pomodoros can you complete in a day?

9. Busy people respond quickly to emails. Productive people take their time
Email is a handy list of priorities. The problem: they are other people’s priorities, not yours. If you respond to every email, you are dividing up your life into a thousand tiny bits that serve other people’s priorities.

There are 3 choices when you first review your email inbox: Delete, Do, Defer. This is not a post on email management, here are a few on managing email overload from Gigaom, Harvard Business Review, Entrepreneur.

10. Busy people want other people to be busy. Productive people want others to be effective
Busy managers measure hours of activity, productive managers measure output. Busy managers are frustrated by others looking relaxed, looking like they have time, looking like they are enjoying their work. Productive managers love seeing others enjoy their work, love creating an environment in which others can excel.

Busy people are frustrated. They want to be valued for their effort, not for their results.

There is a Hindu saying: “We have a right to our labour, not to the fruits of our labour”.

We have a right to enjoy being excellent at our work, not a right to enjoy the car, the house, the money that comes from doing good work. Productivity is about valuing the journey towards excellence, not any moment of activity.

11. Busy people talk about how they will change. Productive people are making those changes.
Kilian Jornet doesn’t spend much time talking about what he will do. He talks about what he has done, what he has learnt, what inspires him.

Spend less time talking about what you will do and dedicate that time to creating the first step. What can you do now that requires the approval of nobody else? What can you do with the resources, knowledge and support that you have now? Do that. It is amazing how the universe rewards the person who stops talking and begins.

We are born with incredible potential. At the age of 20, the best compliment that can be paid is that you have a lot of potential. At the age of 30, it is still ok. At 40, you have a lot of potential is becoming an insult. At 60, telling someone that they have a lot of potential is probably the cruelest insult that can be made about their life.

Don’t let your potential go to waste. Create something amazing. This is its own reward
Hail Caesar


Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #1 on: June 19, 2015, 10:32:46 am »
Open your mind.


Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #2 on: June 19, 2015, 11:58:07 am »
So you went onto a website called lifehack.org and copied and pasted an entire article to open up a waygook thread?

Lifehack? Who calls stuff life hacks? 15 year olds? Computer nerds?

Tips would be more appropriate.

I didn't read the copy and paste job though cos I refuse to be associated with the words life hack.

Here's a life hack tip for you. Copy the domain name next time and maybe summarise the life hacks tips.


  • HyooMyron
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    • October 14, 2013, 11:36:39 pm
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Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #3 on: June 19, 2015, 01:50:32 pm »
LOL I'm not going to take anyone that visits Lifehacks.org seriously. That site is catered directly to mouth breathing imbeciles.
And trying to pass it off as a discussion worthy article is the comedic moment of the day.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2015, 01:52:52 pm by HyooMyron »


Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #4 on: June 19, 2015, 06:42:39 pm »
Don't completely knock these things.  I enjoy occasional reads on sites like Lifehacker.  Sure, you gotta filter through crap articles, but there are some quality reads and some you should take with a grain of salt. 

What doesn't work for you, might work for another.

But back to the title/article, clearly we know busy doesn't mean productive.  We live in Korea afterall :p   If more people we work with knew the difference, MAYBE we'd all be more productive.


Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #5 on: June 19, 2015, 08:02:12 pm »
Lifehack? Who calls stuff life hacks? 15 year olds? Computer nerds?

Who gets this worked up over a thread he's not compelled to read and is strangely uptight about the words other people choose to use? A 15-year-old? A computer nerd? You anonymous deskwarming nobodies sure like to talk tough about the most inane sh*t.


  • tamjen
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    • June 19, 2013, 08:08:14 am
Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #6 on: June 19, 2015, 08:16:50 pm »
I like Life  Hack. So there!

I also like hotdogs, hamburgers and Hank Snow.

But what I like the most is seeing people get their knickers in a not over something they haven't read :-)
Hail Caesar


Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #7 on: June 19, 2015, 08:36:25 pm »
Lifehack? Who calls stuff life hacks? 15 year olds? Computer nerds?

Who gets this worked up over a thread he's not compelled to read and is strangely uptight about the words other people choose to use? A 15-year-old? A computer nerd? You anonymous deskwarming nobodies sure like to talk tough about the most inane sh*t.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I2e7et_cXQY


Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #8 on: June 19, 2015, 08:44:08 pm »
That's always the easiest kind of post to disregard. Just don't click. So efficient. That's, like, a message board life hack right there. Just ignore the comebacks that oblige you to click on something and watch a video.


Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #9 on: June 19, 2015, 09:06:43 pm »
That's always the easiest kind of post to disregard. Just don't click. So efficient. That's, like, a message board life hack right there. Just ignore the comebacks that oblige you to click on something and watch a video.

Here's a life hack for you smarty pants.
« Last Edit: June 19, 2015, 09:10:04 pm by YoungMin »


Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #10 on: June 19, 2015, 10:51:59 pm »
Interesting post Tamjen, thanks.

Productivity as we know is a concept that's not really understood here.



  • maximmm
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    • September 05, 2013, 11:02:44 am
Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #11 on: June 20, 2015, 08:21:41 am »
busy people copy-paste articles, productive people write their own

Oh, wait...


  • bpetrea
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Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #12 on: June 20, 2015, 02:43:59 pm »
You guys are a ruthless crowd. No need to be so rude.

Tamjen, I know exactly what you were getting at. I see it my office all the time. The management even promotes this sort of behavior. They would prefer that everyone look busy 100% of the time, rather than actually be productive.


  • CliffK
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Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2015, 01:51:44 am »
I appreciate the article- good things to keep in mind. I find myself getting overly ambitious sometimes and wanting to do too many things. Reminds me of the hilarous Shia Lebouf motivation speech just in case anyone has missed it: http://youtu.be/nuHfVn_cfHU


  • tamjen
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Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2015, 06:01:31 am »
I appreciate the article- good things to keep in mind. I find myself getting overly ambitious sometimes and wanting to do too many things. Reminds me of the hilarous Shia Lebouf motivation speech just in case anyone has missed it: http://youtu.be/nuHfVn_cfHU

That was funny! And spot on.

As to the rude comment just above, I would say.

"Busy people spend hours researching, collating and writing something, productive people realize they've found something that is a perfect example of what they want to say and share it"

 :P
Hail Caesar


  • VanIslander
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Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #15 on: June 21, 2015, 07:08:47 am »
Doing a lot vs. Getting a lot done.

Working harder vs. Working smarter.

Blue collar effort vs. Creative genius.

There's nothing particularly new here.

More to the point, every major urban center is full of people rushing about, commuting and consuming, maintaining the grind. Saying 'no' to most things and focusing on one or two tasks and doing them exceptionally has always been the exception. Multiple Nobel prize winners have indicated as much.


  • ajr30
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Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #16 on: June 22, 2015, 07:48:01 am »
I appreciate the article- good things to keep in mind. I find myself getting overly ambitious sometimes and wanting to do too many things. Reminds me of the hilarous Shia Lebouf motivation speech just in case anyone has missed it: http://youtu.be/nuHfVn_cfHU

Then, of course, there's this masterpiece:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k_e67Wwumz8


  • Hot6^
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Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #17 on: June 22, 2015, 08:03:49 am »
Wow, seriously?

The fire is raging in here, just because someone posted and article, that for some reason, every one instantly hates because of the source.

I read the bolded text, and gave a mental thumbs up/shrug.

What is wrong with people.

Apparently the majority of you don't go out on the weekends, or are completely miserable.
What you put into Korea, is what you will get out of Korea; it will not spoon feed you.


  • tamjen
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    • June 19, 2013, 08:08:14 am
Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #18 on: June 24, 2015, 07:17:39 am »
Wow, seriously?

The fire is raging in here, just because someone posted and article, that for some reason, every one instantly hates because of the source.

I read the bolded text, and gave a mental thumbs up/shrug.

What is wrong with people.

Apparently the majority of you don't go out on the weekends, or are completely miserable.



Life is tough when you leave mommy and daddy's basement for the first time. Some folks can't handle it and get scrappy with others because they have nothing better to do! No social skills.

I recall how difficult life was back in the summer of '79 when I left my mommy and daddy's basement. I wonder what percentage of the posters on here weren't even born then?
Hail Caesar


Re: Busy People vs. Productive People
« Reply #19 on: June 24, 2015, 08:30:23 am »
I am quite sure, most of this is repeated/taken from information in a book called "4 hour work week" by Tim Ferriss.