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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #20 on: June 16, 2015, 12:16:57 pm »
Pro - very short commute.  Save money on bus/su way fare

Con - Lack of privacy. 

I rather enjoy my privacy and the 30 minute commute is well worth it.  I occasionally like to have a beer or two with friends at local restaurants and hoffs and have had the experience many times of a parent approaching me.   Sitting outside at a coffee shop without being pestered for scraps of food by students moaning "Teacheeeeer.  Hungry" is nice too!

Yeah, parents suck.

I was running late to make my Saturday morning class one week, and while I was running to catch the bus, I saw one of my old sixth grade students (now 2nd grade middle school) walking with her dad. I waved, she said "hi!" and I said, "Hi, nice to see you, I'm very late!" while simultaneously bowing to her dad and giving her a high-five. Then I jogged on.

He later called my school and complained that I hadn't stopped to help her practice her English.


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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #21 on: June 16, 2015, 12:25:40 pm »

Yeah, parents suck.

I was running late to make my Saturday morning class one week, and while I was running to catch the bus, I saw one of my old sixth grade students (now 2nd grade middle school) walking with her dad. I waved, she said "hi!" and I said, "Hi, nice to see you, I'm very late!" while simultaneously bowing to her dad and giving her a high-five. Then I jogged on.

He later called my school and complained that I hadn't stopped to help her practice her English.

LAWD!! Are you serious.  I can't even with what you just posted.  Ugh!  That reminds me of this one time I heard from this girl I was talking with at a bar that she lost a student at her hakwon because she didn't say hi to her in passing down the street.  The mother called up furious about it too.  I remember when I used to live 5 minutes from a nucleus of popular hakwons in my area and I would just overhear the mothers chatting at the Paris Baguette café about which one of the hakwons in my area that they wanted to send their children to and which ones were bad.  Ugh Nauseating 


Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #22 on: June 16, 2015, 12:32:18 pm »
Well I live about a 15-20 minute walk and I have seen my students in my town less than 5 times. I don't know if it's just my area but it seems like the kids never leave the close vicinity of the school. (I live one subway stop away from my school.)

I would hate to live any closer.

My kids don't need to see me all dolled up for a night on the town and I also let my tattoo be visible around my town. So lack of privacy is a definite CON, IMO.


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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #23 on: June 16, 2015, 12:48:52 pm »
I live an 8 minute walk from my school. 6 if I do the korean shuffle.

PROS: all of them

CONS: none

30 minute commute being worth it because sometimes kids ask you for food? I don't buy it

Was that meant for me?  Because, I said quite a lot more than that.  The main take-away point should have been "He enjoys the privacy and anonymity of living away from the school".  The reasons for this should be fairly obvious but if you'd like I can explain it to you the way I would explain it to one of my students.

Is English your first language?  Do you understand what "I don't buy it" means?  I stated my personal preference.  Do you think I misrepresented myself?
« Last Edit: June 16, 2015, 12:51:15 pm by outsider »


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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #24 on: June 16, 2015, 12:49:39 pm »
Almost every time I read posts like this, I realize how bizarre and chill my school is.  (which I absolutely love).

I live in a small town and work at a dorm school (meaning the kids live on campus).  It takes me about 30 minutes to walk to school.  However, I have the best of both worlds in regards to transit.  An agriculture teacher picks me up in the morning and we commute to school together.  At night I walk the 30 minutes home. 

I live far enough away that during the week I rarely see students near my home and on the weekends the only students left in town are the local ones.  I don't change my habits.  I still drink outside the CU near my house.  My school knows a lot of stuff but they just don't care.  Been here almost 3 years.


Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #25 on: June 16, 2015, 12:58:00 pm »
After lunch, I walked home (7 minutes), took a box to the post office (another 5), and then walked back to my school. I think I spent more time actually waiting in the post office. That's a PRO for living close. It's much easier for running random errands.
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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #26 on: June 16, 2015, 01:37:07 pm »
Here is a big Con.

I lived close to my school, as well as other school children.  I managed to keep where I lived a secret for almost a year.  Students knew where I lived, but not exactly where.

Well, one day some students decided to follow me, secretly, home.  They found out where I lived and wanted to come in an say hi.  (I have a rule, no kids shall be at my house, period.)  They kept on knocking on my door and then running away, or wanted to visit.  I got annoyed real quick.  Thank God I was moving from that apartment to a better one in two weeks, so I didn't mind.



Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #27 on: June 16, 2015, 02:54:24 pm »
Last year, I worked at two schools. One was a 20 minute walk away and the other was a 30 minute bus ride away.

This year, I decided to keep the same apartment but my schools changed.I now both live 15 minute walk away from both schools, somewhere in the middle of both.

I prefer walking to both schools. The bus system is a hit or miss system here- If I didn't arrive at the stop at 7:50 on the dot (or before) the bus would leave and only came every 20 minutes. Sometimes, I had to take a 7k taxi ride to that school which was really irritating.


I like relying on myself to walk and get the extra exercise, which is why I stuck to my old apartment.

The only con that I have living a little close to both schools is occasionally I see my students at the same health club as me.

You had to take a taxi instead of taking the next bus 20 minutes later at 8:10?  How far away is your school?  The ed office changes me in my mid sized city every year or nowadays every couple of years. Public transport in large cities good, in rural areas decent, but mid sized cities or if you don't live near the center of your town, crap.   It would take me prob an hour and 15 minutes in the morning because of the stupid illogical system of bus routes all having to meander to the middle of the city which hardly anyone lives in anymore here and then transferring and going out to another part of town.  I can drive direct in 20 minutes if I catch the traffic just after peak time, which usually means I leave later nowadays to avoid it and arrive at 8:40.  But classes don't start until 9 AM this year, thank goodness.  (Not sure why they can't have more direct bus routes.  Must be some stubborn resistance to change or something.  Folks more away to other parts of the city over the years.) 


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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #28 on: June 16, 2015, 03:01:23 pm »
In my case, most of the time I lived far enough away from my schools that it wasn't common for me to see/run into my students in the areas where I used to live at the time, since most (if not all) of them didn't live in the same area as me. I personally liked it that way. The only time I lived near my school was when I used to work at my ex-hagwon; I lived a 5-minute walk from the hagwon and it was in a small rural town, so needless to say, I would run into students quite frequently outside of work. I guess saving on public transportation to commute to/from work was nice, too.

At one of my former public schools, it was a 7-minute bus ride away (and a 5-minute walk to the bus stop from my then-apartment), so starting in my second year working at that school, I decided to only take the bus to school in the morning (since I'm not a morning person) and walk home in the afternoon. It was about a 25-minute walk but I didn't mind (as long as the weather wasn't so bad); it was good exercise and it cut my public transportation commuting costs in half. 


Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #29 on: June 16, 2015, 03:26:38 pm »
Pro tip: If possible live in a different education district than your school. I'm an 8 minute walk but their is this magic gu barrier that students never cross.

Pro: Saving on bus fare everyday. Not spending time on the bus.
Cons: none that have popped up.
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i technically live in a different city from my school (but only about a 20 minute walk) and it's great.  You almost never have awkward run ins with students/parents/teachers.  you get a personal life that is separate from your school.  nobody is up in your business.  ahhh bliss....


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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #30 on: June 16, 2015, 03:32:04 pm »
I am within a ten minute walk from my school. Having had an 80 minute round trip commute in the US by car, this feels like a dream. Sometimes I do see my students, but its very rarely if at all. When they do see me its at the grocery store or at the Lotteria, but it doesn't bother me.


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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #31 on: June 16, 2015, 04:00:46 pm »
I live about a five minute walk from my school.
Pros - all of the above. And there's a coffeeshop between my house and my school so I always stop there in the morning for coffee and breakfast, which is nice.

Cons - All the kids in my neighbourhood know exactly where I live. They follow me home, follow me to and from the store, hang out in the parking area waiting for me, try to sneakily watch me put in the password for the main door so they can come in after, and sometimes run up and down the streets on the weekend mornings yelling my name while I'm trying to sleep off a hangover.

I still think living close is better, it can just be incredibly irritating when you're tired/hungover/sick of seeing your kids all day/ALL THE TIME.


Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #32 on: June 16, 2015, 04:25:47 pm »
At my first school, I could walk there in about 5 minutes. The pros of this have already been stated for the most part: sleep later, go home at lunch for quick naps, go home if I forgot something, easier to run errands during the day, get home quickly in the evening.
One major con, however: seeing students at the jimjilbang. o.O


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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #33 on: June 16, 2015, 05:37:59 pm »
One thing I suppose, you can't really go out in your pajamas, even if it's just to take out the trash.
I guess it really depends on your lifestyle.

Totally doable. I routinely walk past the front doors of my school with the park opposite wearing hobo clothes and dirty beard growth on Sundays. No one, parents, students nor my principal cares.



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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #34 on: June 16, 2015, 06:40:23 pm »
I've done both ways. Living close is better. Yes, I see students every time I go outside. But saving money and time on the commute is so worth it.


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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #35 on: June 16, 2015, 11:05:51 pm »
2002-2006 I lived across town in compact Okpo, Geoje Island. It took 12-15 minutes to walk across the densely-populated small city on the bay across from the DSME shipyards (the island is technically one municipality, the world's biggest shipbuilding city, with Samsung shipyards 45 minutes away in Gohyeon on the north coast). I loved the daily walk, except for the middle of summer when the humidity caused me to taxi it (I have faced 40+ C days back in Canada but that was a dry heat compared to the 36-39 C humid sweat-your-clothes-off days in Okpo).

2006-2009 I lived halfway across farm town Hadong, a 15-minute walk almost to the tee most days. Agaian, it was pleasant, though definitely more rural, less dense. It was also a taxi ride in the height of the summer humidity (at least TO work. I almost always sauntered home).

2009-2015 I've been living in the same building as my academy for all but my first year in Seogwipo, on Jeju Island and I so appreciate the COOLER temperatures hereabouts compared to the mainland. yeah, the winters are more humid, sometimes misty through the Xmas-New Year's season, but it doesn't get past 25 C in May or June and yet is 22+ C well past October. I LOVE living in the same building as work. My director has only knocked on my door to give me Korean Thanksgiving (Chuseok) and Lunar New Year's food treats (plus, er, a knock the only time I forgot to set the alarm and overslept a nap one Saturday afternoon extra class I taught).

As long as a director can be trusted to not pester you, living in the same building is great. Living within a 10-15 miniute walk is certainly a requirement for any job I may take years down the road.

I would never subway commute or any other kind of transit 30-minute+ each way (an hour a day in some metal box). Perhaps that's more the cup of tea of those who come from big cities to begin with.

The only con I can think of of living in the same building as my classes the last five years is the mental prep time and daily views of sky and nature (though I'm fifteen minutes from a waterfall and the Jeju coast and do get out several mornings a week before my 2 o'clock deadline to get ready (for my 2:30 pm first class).

I'd rather hike over a tall mountain every day than take a subway ride for an hour a day. of course, I haven't done either, but I've no doubt about my preference.


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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #36 on: June 17, 2015, 08:28:37 am »
I live a 25minute walk away.

In the morning, I either ride a bike or pay the 3,000 cab fare. TBH, I'm engaged in certain activities that keep me up late night these days so I can't seem to wake up in time to cycle but I don't mind.

This seems like the perfect distance. I get nice strolls home and I don't see too many kids. I have a friend who works at the school near to where we live. If I'm walking with her all she is constantly doing is waving and greeting enthusiastically. She loves it. I personally find it annoying. I put the razzle dazzle on at school. I don't want to have to put it on all the time outside of school too.


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Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #37 on: June 17, 2015, 09:47:07 am »
I live 10-25 minutes by bus from the schools I work at. A lot of my students live in the same town so I see them around fairly often if I'm around town in the evening. They usually just hug me or wave and scream at me or give me food. Occasionally the kids who live in the same apartments ask me which building or floor I live at or watch to see where I go in the elevator but none of them have ever came to my house. They've seen me around with all my piercings in and commented on them but it's never caused any problems.
It's better dealing with some annoying kids to me than having to wake up earlier and pay more to go further on the bus. I kind of like seeing the kids sometimes. I teach elementary and it's nice seeing my former grade 6 students around since I don't teach them anymore.


Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #38 on: June 17, 2015, 10:12:39 am »
A few years ago I spent 2 years at an urban middle school. First year, I lived 35 mins walk away in an officetel (8F), and the second year I lived in a regular (but low rent) numbered apartment block (11F) a mere 10 mins walk from school.

I had more hassle from kids when I lived in the officetel, as 1. it was next to a load of hagwons, and 2. in a more residential area, they know they need to behave.


Re: Pros and Con's on living close to school.
« Reply #39 on: June 17, 2015, 10:26:18 am »
I live (literally) a stone's throw from my school. It's five minutes from putting on my shoes to sitting at my desk. Some pros and cons that I have noticed:

Pros:

  • I can sleep later because of the short 'commute'
  • More time to have a good breakfast or ease into the day
  • I save money on transport to and from school
  • Less time in adverse weather on the way to and from school
  • I can go home quickly if I forget something important
  • I can have a quick shower and change clothes before hwesik
  • I can easily go grocery shopping on the way home

Cons:

  • Students have followed me home and even tried to sneak into my apartment building after me to find out which apartment I live in
  • I cannot socialise in my neighborhood because of the risk of being seen by students or parents
  • Increased transport costs from having to travel to socialise
  • If my students see me with a woman, no matter who it is, she is automatically my girlfriend and the whole school will know by the next day
  • I don't know if this is because my home is so close to school, but my only table is a rickety single-seater school desk
  • It can be tiring to constantly be 'on' in the neighborhood, sometimes I just want to go where I'm going without having to put on my teacher/foreign child-entertainer persona


Bonus story:

My vice-principal told my main co-teacher to search my apartment for drugs because, and I quote, I am 'quiet outside of class'.