People need to get a grip when it comes to pets. The whole thing is out of control, especially the emotional neediness. For goodness sakes, makes me want to join the Animal Liberation Front or something. Dog piss everywhere on the streets. Pets in restaurants. Dogs in cramped little apartments. Dogs yapping all the time. Dogs on buses. Dogs on planes. People treating pets like some sort of right. People who can't spend a year in another country without having a pet because they have emotional loneliness issues. People stopping every half a block to pet a dog like its something magical. People who think pets are people. People who think their pets have the same emotional fragility as them. Enough!
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on May 10, 2017, 01:54:54 pmPeople need to get a grip when it comes to pets. The whole thing is out of control, especially the emotional neediness. For goodness sakes, makes me want to join the Animal Liberation Front or something. Dog piss everywhere on the streets. Pets in restaurants. Dogs in cramped little apartments. Dogs yapping all the time. Dogs on buses. Dogs on planes. People treating pets like some sort of right. People who can't spend a year in another country without having a pet because they have emotional loneliness issues. People stopping every half a block to pet a dog like its something magical. People who think pets are people. People who think their pets have the same emotional fragility as them. Enough! For the record, I have no problem with people getting whatever pet they want... ASSUMING, they handle the necessary responsibilities.You have no business owning a dog if:1 - You don't have a big yard.2 - You don't have regular access to large field/park.3 - You want to let unleash your dog to run around said park, which includes other people.4 - When outside your home, you're unable to keep the dog out of people's personal and olfactory space.5 - You don't have the income to provide proper nutrition and veterinary care 6 - You start fundraisers because your broke ass didn't anticipate that pets may need expensive emergency treatment.7 - Your apartment isn't, at least, as big as Dr Frasier Crane's.8 - You're always on the move9 - You're not prepared to pay thousands of dollars to ship it home, at the end of your contract.10 - A big motivation for getting a dog is to see how cute it will look in the little dog jersey you found... seriously, just die!
Quote from: Aristocrat on May 10, 2017, 02:22:42 pm9 - You're not prepared to pay thousands of dollars to ship it home, at the end of your contract. Especially this.
9 - You're not prepared to pay thousands of dollars to ship it home, at the end of your contract.
I've seen a lot of people (2) outside walking their terrified-and-obviously-not-enjoying-themselves housecats on leashes recently.I'm irked.
Quote from: yirj17 on May 10, 2017, 07:35:14 pmQuote from: Aristocrat on May 10, 2017, 02:22:42 pm9 - You're not prepared to pay thousands of dollars to ship it home, at the end of your contract. Especially this. Depending on the size of the animal, it only takes around 250,000 won to fly it from Korea to North America. I have a Dachshund, and we've made that flight several times already. No problemos.
Quote from: kyndo on May 10, 2017, 08:01:28 pmDepending on the size of the animal, it only takes around 250,000 won to fly it from Korea to North America. I have a Dachshund, and we've made that flight several times already. No problemos. Curious, what airline do you typically use?
Depending on the size of the animal, it only takes around 250,000 won to fly it from Korea to North America. I have a Dachshund, and we've made that flight several times already. No problemos.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on May 10, 2017, 01:54:54 pmPeople need to get a grip when it comes to pets. The whole thing is out of control, especially the emotional neediness. For goodness sakes, makes me want to join the Animal Liberation Front or something. Dog piss everywhere on the streets. Pets in restaurants. Dogs in cramped little apartments. Dogs yapping all the time. Dogs on buses. Dogs on planes. People treating pets like some sort of right. People who can't spend a year in another country without having a pet because they have emotional loneliness issues. People stopping every half a block to pet a dog like its something magical. People who think pets are people. People who think their pets have the same emotional fragility as them. Enough! i hate to say it but i'm in total agreement with demartino on this (rare) occasion.
My first week here, it was snowing and crazy windy. I found a tiny puppy, maybe a month or 2 old, IN THE SNOW. SHIVERING. It was skinny, and cold...
Wow, so much hostility and judgment. FOR THE RECORD:My first week here, it was snowing and crazy windy. I found a tiny puppy, maybe a month or 2 old, IN THE SNOW. SHIVERING. It was skinny, and cold, and trying to keep out of the wind by cowering in a corner. Snot was crusted all over its nose and eyes. It was filthy. I did what any basic decent human being would do- I tucked it under my jacket, brought it home, and held it in my arms next to the space heater until it stopped shivering. Then, I gave it a bath. I didn't have any dog food, I didn't even know where to BUY dog food, so I fed it a hot dog. It has been a burden every day, I've never had a dog before, I had no idea what I was doing. BUT I'm pretty sure I saved it's life, and I've been trying desperately to find it a good home every day for the last 2 months. I've asked all my coworkers if they know anyone, when I bring her to events and go out of town I tell everyone who asks about her that she's up for adoption, I've been posting on animalrescuekorea.. . I'm even trying to find someone in the US to take her and I'll use my summer vacation to fly her to her new home. I live in Boeun, and I can't find any pet sitting services. It's a really tiny town. ON THE BUS, I had the dog in it's carrier, and the carrier was in the window seat, and I had the aisle. Finally, I would never choose to adopt a dog and then abandon it when I leave in a year. You know what they say about assuming, right? Anything else I need to defend myself against?
Quote from: Chinguetti on May 10, 2017, 09:35:16 pmCurious, what airline do you typically use?United, usually, and Korean Air occationally. Whichever one is cheapest at the time :)
Curious, what airline do you typically use?
I have been in Korea 2 months now, and only had really good experiences up until now. However, this weekend, I bought a bus ticket for my dog so I didn't have to hold her carrier in my lap the entire 4-hour trip from Seoul to Chungbuk, and a girl INSISTED on taking my dogs spot despite that there were 2 open seats elsewhere. She kind of stood in the aisle and just looked at me expectantly, and I showed her the 2 tickets I had bought, pointed to one ticket and at myself, then to the other ticket and to my dog in the other seat, and she still just stood there, waiting for me to move my dog. I was honestly, very pissed off. If it was a short bus ride, that's fine. But considering I paid 30,00 won for the bus fare so I could be comfortable instead of miserable for 4 hours straight, I was very upset. Then she has the audacity to close both the air vents completely, so I'm sweating my butt off the entire time. My dog got really antsy after about 3 hours, and started panting once she closed the vents, so I had to take her out of her crate and put her on my lap. Then, she had the audacity to look annoyed when my dog tried to get her attention and wagged her tail excitedly. I should have just stood my ground.
Quote from: kyndo on May 11, 2017, 07:51:07 amQuote from: Chinguetti on May 10, 2017, 09:35:16 pmCurious, what airline do you typically use?United, usually, and Korean Air occationally. Whichever one is cheapest at the time :)Welp, two airlines crossed off my list. United has tiny seats and treats you like crap but they allow dogs. Maybe they should
Incredible, the only thing these airlines bend over backwards for is for carry-on animals. They treat animals better than their own damn customers. No wonder these airlines suck. Not surprised that people who think like this are running their airlines into the ground.
Quote from: Mr.DeMartino on May 11, 2017, 09:20:16 amQuote from: kyndo on May 11, 2017, 07:51:07 amQuote from: Chinguetti on May 10, 2017, 09:35:16 pmCurious, what airline do you typically use?United, usually, and Korean Air occationally. Whichever one is cheapest at the time :)Welp, two airlines crossed off my list. United has tiny seats and treats you like crap but they allow dogs. Maybe they should Insofar as I know, all the carriers that have flights to NA allow carry on pets. Some just charge more than others, and have different weight/size limitations. Do you know of any major airlines that don't? Would be nice to know in advance!And in my experience*, most dogs just sleep throughout the flight. Something to do with the changes in air pressure and engine noise/vibration. *Your experiences may, of course, be different.
Quote from: SamBunny on May 11, 2017, 08:19:45 amMy first week here, it was snowing and crazy windy. I found a tiny puppy, maybe a month or 2 old, IN THE SNOW. SHIVERING. It was skinny, and cold...Good job. Mine was a rescue as well. Found her in a trash pile covered in sores and too starved to run away. Considering how sought after dachshunds are here in Korea, I was really surprised to see somebody tossing one out like that!3 years later and she's fine (except for some serious trash eating issues. Damn dog.).
Middle Eastern airlines (consistently rated the best) don't allow them, except for falcons and the only people that have those are people with F U money. Those people are probably in those 1st class staterooms or whatever.
Quote from: SamBunny on May 11, 2017, 08:19:45 amWow, so much hostility and judgment. FOR THE RECORD:My first week here, it was snowing and crazy windy. I found a tiny puppy, maybe a month or 2 old, IN THE SNOW. SHIVERING. It was skinny, and cold, and trying to keep out of the wind by cowering in a corner. Snot was crusted all over its nose and eyes. It was filthy. I did what any basic decent human being would do- I tucked it under my jacket, brought it home, and held it in my arms next to the space heater until it stopped shivering. Then, I gave it a bath. I didn't have any dog food, I didn't even know where to BUY dog food, so I fed it a hot dog. It has been a burden every day, I've never had a dog before, I had no idea what I was doing. BUT I'm pretty sure I saved it's life, and I've been trying desperately to find it a good home every day for the last 2 months. I've asked all my coworkers if they know anyone, when I bring her to events and go out of town I tell everyone who asks about her that she's up for adoption, I've been posting on animalrescuekorea.. . I'm even trying to find someone in the US to take her and I'll use my summer vacation to fly her to her new home. I live in Boeun, and I can't find any pet sitting services. It's a really tiny town. ON THE BUS, I had the dog in it's carrier, and the carrier was in the window seat, and I had the aisle. Finally, I would never choose to adopt a dog and then abandon it when I leave in a year. You know what they say about assuming, right? Anything else I need to defend myself against?You're a compassionate person, to animals at least. You're also learning why most people, despite feeling sorry for the animal, didn't take it home. Nature is merciless, feral cats and dogs needs to develop survival instincts and learn to fend for themselves. It's through hardships like this that the strongest feral animals overcome and live long enough to pass on their superior genes.I never pet feral animals, no matter how needy they seem. Despite taking a very dangerous chance at contracting rabies or some nasty infection, you're also creating an association that humans are friendly... That's the last thing I want a stray animal to be thinking in this country.There's a fine line between being compassionate and leaving nature alone. It's just my opinion, but if you're going to rob the animal of it's opportunity to pass nature's test and learn how to survive, you better be prepared to become it's provider.
I feel so validated after reading all these other posts about Koreans being in the way. I was so grumpy yesterday in Dongdaemun partly because of all the people that kept bumping into me, cutting me off, or blocking the way. I kept wondering if Koreans have any concept of spatial awareness, or if it was just confirmation bias. I was trying to leave the subway, and a guy abruptly stopped at the top of the stairs to check his phone. Really guy? You couldn't have walked forward another few steps so people could get out? I was so annoyed I just pushed right past him. I hope it taught him a lesson, but I may have come off as just a rude foreigner. Oh well.