Quote from: HiddenPerson on April 20, 2017, 11:44:04 amI get it, but it's still annoying...They're just doing their job, but it can still irk you.So basically, you're upset they can't read your mind over whether or not you'd like some assistance as you look at things in a quizzical fashion. And to compound it, you have to go through the crucible of telling them "I'm okay, thank you." Did it ever occur to you that YOU are the one with the problem, not them? I mean this isn't that big a deal and shouldn't be a huge annoyance.Though in your defense, I am often tempted to go with the Ron Swanson "I know more than you.", especially in the beer/liquor aisle. There is an element of "Guy in costume who you just want to kick in the rear" element to salespeople. I'm not totally oblivious to their annoyances.Quote from: chupacaubrey on April 20, 2017, 12:06:03 pmI only ever experience the super clingy salespeople at places like Etude House, Tony Moly, etc. It drives me mad and, subsequently, out of the store.I also hate being at the grocery store and beckoned to buy some milk that is on sale/being sampled as opposed to whatever it is I actually want.Uhm, correct me if I'm wrong, at places for cosmetics, skin care, etc. isn't that one of the places you really want personal attention and someone who knows the product there to assist you? I mean isn't one of the reasons people go to the dept. store and not just buy online is so they can test out different products and see how it applies and get professional advice? At least that's what it appears to me, but I could be wrong because I'm not really spending much time in Etude House or in front of the Bobbi Brown counter.As far as the grocery store, sometimes those displays can be the best value or they got a good lot. Check the date on stuff, sometimes it's 'Get our excess inventory out of here' but other times they got a big fresh lot from the wholesaler/distributor/whatever and you're getting fresher milk at a cheaper price. Take a gander and see what they have. At worst you just have to shake your head and go and buy something else. At best you either get a better product or a better price and sometimes both.
I get it, but it's still annoying...They're just doing their job, but it can still irk you.
I only ever experience the super clingy salespeople at places like Etude House, Tony Moly, etc. It drives me mad and, subsequently, out of the store.I also hate being at the grocery store and beckoned to buy some milk that is on sale/being sampled as opposed to whatever it is I actually want.
.... As a mixed (Korean/American) this is perhaps the most disturbing aspect of Korean language to me, it teaches them that your are either Korean or you are not, and indeed even my own family always has to pressure me into picking a side. I've been told multiple times that I must choose to either live as a Korean or eventually go back to America. ...As for people complaining about all the slurping as stuff... I can never imagine eating ramen without slurping. Some food just tastes better when you slurp it. In America I'm more conscious of the understanding that slurping is a no-no, but if I walk into a Japanese restaurant joint in downtown, I'm still going to slurp my damn ramen because that is what you are supposed to do.Now... I do not like people who chew with their mouths open... it's tolerable when old people do it but not young people.
Uhm, correct me if I'm wrong, at places for cosmetics, skin care, etc. isn't that one of the places you really want personal attention and someone who knows the product there to assist you? I mean isn't one of the reasons people go to the dept. store and not just buy online is so they can test out different products and see how it applies and get professional advice?
Innisfree seems to have finally realized this, and started this basket system.
Quote from: cjszk on April 20, 2017, 01:17:30 pm.... As a mixed (Korean/American) this is perhaps the most disturbing aspect of Korean language to me, it teaches them that your are either Korean or you are not, and indeed even my own family always has to pressure me into picking a side. I've been told multiple times that I must choose to either live as a Korean or eventually go back to America. ...As for people complaining about all the slurping as stuff... I can never imagine eating ramen without slurping. Some food just tastes better when you slurp it. In America I'm more conscious of the understanding that slurping is a no-no, but if I walk into a Japanese restaurant joint in downtown, I'm still going to slurp my damn ramen because that is what you are supposed to do.Now... I do not like people who chew with their mouths open... it's tolerable when old people do it but not young people. Slurps ramen, shows deference to old people...Sounds like you have made your choice.:)
On another occasion, my wife watched some little monster in the locker room (maybe 3 or 4 years old - young enough to be in the ladies' area of the jjimjilbang, anyway), hitting his mother's bare ass and screaming for attention, which she ignored in favor of the all-important makeup application. This animal then charged around the locker room smacking other nude women on their thighs and bottoms[/size], and his mother never, never came to the conclusion, "You know, maybe a little intervention is necessary here."
You've just enabled their law breaking.
1) Being complimented for basic life skills that any simpleton is able to master. I know that my Korean co-workers mean really well here, and are just trying to be nice, but the dumbest thing I've been applauded for is making a sandwich. This is how that conversation went:On another occasion, my wife watched some little monster in the locker room (maybe 3 or 4 years old - young enough to be in the ladies' area of the jjimjilbang, anyway), hitting his mother's bare ass and screaming for attention, which she ignored in favor of the all-important makeup application. This animal then charged around the locker room smacking other nude women on their thighs and bottoms, and his mother never, never came to the conclusion, "You know, maybe a little intervention is necessary here."
Quote from: cjszk on April 20, 2017, 01:17:30 pmI guess I'll write a couple of things that irk me about what Koreans say. Not so much what they do.The one that stood at to me the most that someone else earlier mentioned:When Koreans refer to Korea as 우리- "Our language, our country, our products." Sometimes it is acceptable. But I sometimes tell Koreans that whenever they use the phrase "We," they separate themselves further from the rest of the world. They often say that it's just their language... well no duh, I speak it too and understand but they don't understand the psychological power that the word "We" has. As a mixed (Korean/American) this is perhaps the most disturbing aspect of Korean language to me, it teaches them that your are either Korean or you are not, and indeed even my own family always has to pressure me into picking a side. I've been told multiple times that I must choose to either live as a Korean or eventually go back to America. There is no concept of a border-less world to them. Humans created the borders, they didn't exist before. All we need is a passport and a plane ticket to travel, what stops us from being more multicultural? These kinds of attitudes.~~~As for people complaining about all the slurping as stuff... I can never imagine eating ramen without slurping. Some food just tastes better when you slurp it. In America I'm more conscious of the understanding that slurping is a no-no, but if I walk into a Japanese restaurant joint in downtown, I'm still going to slurp my damn ramen because that is what you are supposed to do.Now... I do not like people who chew with their mouths open... it's tolerable when old people do it but not young people. You're rapidly becoming one of my favourite posters for your posts.
I guess I'll write a couple of things that irk me about what Koreans say. Not so much what they do.The one that stood at to me the most that someone else earlier mentioned:When Koreans refer to Korea as 우리- "Our language, our country, our products." Sometimes it is acceptable. But I sometimes tell Koreans that whenever they use the phrase "We," they separate themselves further from the rest of the world. They often say that it's just their language... well no duh, I speak it too and understand but they don't understand the psychological power that the word "We" has. As a mixed (Korean/American) this is perhaps the most disturbing aspect of Korean language to me, it teaches them that your are either Korean or you are not, and indeed even my own family always has to pressure me into picking a side. I've been told multiple times that I must choose to either live as a Korean or eventually go back to America. There is no concept of a border-less world to them. Humans created the borders, they didn't exist before. All we need is a passport and a plane ticket to travel, what stops us from being more multicultural? These kinds of attitudes.~~~As for people complaining about all the slurping as stuff... I can never imagine eating ramen without slurping. Some food just tastes better when you slurp it. In America I'm more conscious of the understanding that slurping is a no-no, but if I walk into a Japanese restaurant joint in downtown, I'm still going to slurp my damn ramen because that is what you are supposed to do.Now... I do not like people who chew with their mouths open... it's tolerable when old people do it but not young people.
Quote from: kyndo on April 20, 2017, 11:45:36 amQuote from: donovan on April 20, 2017, 11:34:09 amJust a few weeks ago I was riding my bike on the curb side of the bus lane and a car purposefully swipes ahead of me and abruptly parks to let out his wife next to the subway station. I stop my bike and give him an annoyed glare, but I'm ready to leave it at that, when he rolls down his window, sticks out his head and immediately launches a flurry of curses at me. I explain that this is the bus lane and I was far off to the side when the wife, who is now out of the car, starts lecturing me that I shouldn't be riding my bike in the road, and when I ask 'Where should I ride?' she helpfully offers 'nowhere'. Well, this story just spiked my blood pressure by about 10 points. Thanks!Just 10 more and I win the game!Would not happen in a nation more tolerant of fisticuffs.
Quote from: donovan on April 20, 2017, 11:34:09 amJust a few weeks ago I was riding my bike on the curb side of the bus lane and a car purposefully swipes ahead of me and abruptly parks to let out his wife next to the subway station. I stop my bike and give him an annoyed glare, but I'm ready to leave it at that, when he rolls down his window, sticks out his head and immediately launches a flurry of curses at me. I explain that this is the bus lane and I was far off to the side when the wife, who is now out of the car, starts lecturing me that I shouldn't be riding my bike in the road, and when I ask 'Where should I ride?' she helpfully offers 'nowhere'. Well, this story just spiked my blood pressure by about 10 points. Thanks!Just 10 more and I win the game!
Just a few weeks ago I was riding my bike on the curb side of the bus lane and a car purposefully swipes ahead of me and abruptly parks to let out his wife next to the subway station. I stop my bike and give him an annoyed glare, but I'm ready to leave it at that, when he rolls down his window, sticks out his head and immediately launches a flurry of curses at me. I explain that this is the bus lane and I was far off to the side when the wife, who is now out of the car, starts lecturing me that I shouldn't be riding my bike in the road, and when I ask 'Where should I ride?' she helpfully offers 'nowhere'.
Quote from: JNM on April 20, 2017, 01:28:09 pmQuote from: cjszk on April 20, 2017, 01:17:30 pm.... As a mixed (Korean/American) this is perhaps the most disturbing aspect of Korean language to me, it teaches them that your are either Korean or you are not, and indeed even my own family always has to pressure me into picking a side. I've been told multiple times that I must choose to either live as a Korean or eventually go back to America. ...As for people complaining about all the slurping as stuff... I can never imagine eating ramen without slurping. Some food just tastes better when you slurp it. In America I'm more conscious of the understanding that slurping is a no-no, but if I walk into a Japanese restaurant joint in downtown, I'm still going to slurp my damn ramen because that is what you are supposed to do.Now... I do not like people who chew with their mouths open... it's tolerable when old people do it but not young people. Slurps ramen, shows deference to old people...Sounds like you have made your choice.:)And here we have a person on the other side of the fence saying I'm not welcome. *sob* (Sarcasm)
Quote from: cjszk on April 20, 2017, 01:44:43 pmQuote from: JNM on April 20, 2017, 01:28:09 pmQuote from: cjszk on April 20, 2017, 01:17:30 pm.... As a mixed (Korean/American) this is perhaps the most disturbing aspect of Korean language to me, it teaches them that your are either Korean or you are not, and indeed even my own family always has to pressure me into picking a side. I've been told multiple times that I must choose to either live as a Korean or eventually go back to America. ...As for people complaining about all the slurping as stuff... I can never imagine eating ramen without slurping. Some food just tastes better when you slurp it. In America I'm more conscious of the understanding that slurping is a no-no, but if I walk into a Japanese restaurant joint in downtown, I'm still going to slurp my damn ramen because that is what you are supposed to do.Now... I do not like people who chew with their mouths open... it's tolerable when old people do it but not young people. Slurps ramen, shows deference to old people...Sounds like you have made your choice.:)And here we have a person on the other side of the fence saying I'm not welcome. *sob* (Sarcasm)It's great to play either side as appropriate, isn't it?
I find it pretty annoying when I'm out with my significant other, and I ask a question to some service staff in a restaurant or store, and they completely comprehend and understand, and then start answering - to my significant other. It's not them asking for confirmation or clarification - they're literally answering the question I just asked, but not looking at me.And then I'll make some comment or acknowledge that I heard their answer to my question, and either thank them or ask a follow-up question, and they will continue to speak to my significant other as if it was her talking.This happens probably about 30-40% of the time when we're shopping together. I ranted about that a bit, and significant other said that if she talked to someone in my home country, it would be the same thing. So when we went on vacation to my home country, I made a point to watch for it. And actually I was surprised - it did happen, but only once. But yeah. DANG that's irritating.
Quote from: JNM on April 20, 2017, 02:14:25 pmQuote from: cjszk on April 20, 2017, 01:44:43 pmQuote from: JNM on April 20, 2017, 01:28:09 pmQuote from: cjszk on April 20, 2017, 01:17:30 pm.... As a mixed (Korean/American) this is perhaps the most disturbing aspect of Korean language to me, it teaches them that your are either Korean or you are not, and indeed even my own family always has to pressure me into picking a side. I've been told multiple times that I must choose to either live as a Korean or eventually go back to America. ...As for people complaining about all the slurping as stuff... I can never imagine eating ramen without slurping. Some food just tastes better when you slurp it. In America I'm more conscious of the understanding that slurping is a no-no, but if I walk into a Japanese restaurant joint in downtown, I'm still going to slurp my damn ramen because that is what you are supposed to do.Now... I do not like people who chew with their mouths open... it's tolerable when old people do it but not young people. Slurps ramen, shows deference to old people...Sounds like you have made your choice.:)And here we have a person on the other side of the fence saying I'm not welcome. *sob* (Sarcasm)It's great to play either side as appropriate, isn't it?Oh yes, it's also nice to be in the middle of a dodgeball court having balls thrown at your from both sides, then finally being asked to join a team when that team is down 10 players, then being called a traitor by the other side, then finally being told to "go back to your team" after they jailbreak their previous 10 downed players, being denied and having balls thrown at you again from both sides...
Quote from: yirj17 on April 20, 2017, 02:19:13 pmQuote from: #basedcowboyshirt on April 20, 2017, 02:10:03 pmI find it pretty annoying when I'm out with my significant other, and I ask a question to some service staff in a restaurant or store, and they completely comprehend and understand, and then start answering - to my significant other. It's not them asking for confirmation or clarification - they're literally answering the question I just asked, but not looking at me.And then I'll make some comment or acknowledge that I heard their answer to my question, and either thank them or ask a follow-up question, and they will continue to speak to my significant other as if it was her talking.This happens probably about 30-40% of the time when we're shopping together. I ranted about that a bit, and significant other said that if she talked to someone in my home country, it would be the same thing. So when we went on vacation to my home country, I made a point to watch for it. And actually I was surprised - it did happen, but only once. But yeah. DANG that's irritating.Whenever I'm out with non-Asian friends, Koreans always look to me, even if my friend was the one asking something. I tell them I don't speak Korean. They keep looking to me anyway as if I'm just pranking them and will magically rescue them from having to attempt speaking English. Teehee, MFers. Oh. I should've clarified that I'm speaking Korean when this happens. And to protect my fragile ego, I'll point out again that they totally understand what I said and aren't asking for confirmation. They're just literally answering the question to a different person. Like, I don't expect them to English. But yeah.
Quote from: #basedcowboyshirt on April 20, 2017, 02:10:03 pmI find it pretty annoying when I'm out with my significant other, and I ask a question to some service staff in a restaurant or store, and they completely comprehend and understand, and then start answering - to my significant other. It's not them asking for confirmation or clarification - they're literally answering the question I just asked, but not looking at me.And then I'll make some comment or acknowledge that I heard their answer to my question, and either thank them or ask a follow-up question, and they will continue to speak to my significant other as if it was her talking.This happens probably about 30-40% of the time when we're shopping together. I ranted about that a bit, and significant other said that if she talked to someone in my home country, it would be the same thing. So when we went on vacation to my home country, I made a point to watch for it. And actually I was surprised - it did happen, but only once. But yeah. DANG that's irritating.Whenever I'm out with non-Asian friends, Koreans always look to me, even if my friend was the one asking something. I tell them I don't speak Korean. They keep looking to me anyway as if I'm just pranking them and will magically rescue them from having to attempt speaking English. Teehee, MFers.
Quote from: JNM on April 20, 2017, 11:51:11 amQuote from: kyndo on April 20, 2017, 11:45:36 amQuote from: donovan on April 20, 2017, 11:34:09 amJust a few weeks ago I was riding my bike on the curb side of the bus lane and a car purposefully swipes ahead of me and abruptly parks to let out his wife next to the subway station. I stop my bike and give him an annoyed glare, but I'm ready to leave it at that, when he rolls down his window, sticks out his head and immediately launches a flurry of curses at me. I explain that this is the bus lane and I was far off to the side when the wife, who is now out of the car, starts lecturing me that I shouldn't be riding my bike in the road, and when I ask 'Where should I ride?' she helpfully offers 'nowhere'. Well, this story just spiked my blood pressure by about 10 points. Thanks!Just 10 more and I win the game!Would not happen in a nation more tolerant of fisticuffs.No fisticuffs necessary. I got the last word in with her as she descended the staircase. "Thanks. You're very helpful." and I put an extra sardonic emphasis on the word 'very'. Booyah, grandma!