Things Koreans do that irks us

For a country that doesn't seem too cool with THC, I swear their R&D teams must be stoners:
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Things that annoy me:
driving skills, lack of
walking skills, lack of
scooter skills, lack of
skiing skills, lack of
anytime someone says "Woori-nara"
anytime someone says waygookin, especially if they are Korean, but not in Korea
When dumbasses people think foreigners can't eat spicy food
Being told Hanguel is the best thing ever
Explaining to people that King Seojeong didn't invent hanguel himself
Explaining to people Korean Independence Day wasn't a battle in which Korea won
Explaining that soju, kimchi, and hot peppers contribute to cancer risks, not just foreign devil food.
Doctors, immigration officers, police officers, bank tellers, and postal workers not knowing their job.
Places not serving coffee before noon.

   

I'm irked that the OP of this thread didn't invite us to talk about what irks us in our home countries as well. Oh wait, that'd make too many people on this forum angry and "trigger" people here wouldn't it?

I'm irked that the OP of this thread didn't invite us to talk about what irks us in our home countries as well. Oh wait, that'd make too many people on this forum angry and "trigger" people here wouldn't it?

Considering your genetic "blend", I'm curious...does that make it so NOTHING bothers you from either "culture"or EVERYTHING bothers you from both cultures?  None of the above?

OP let me introduce you to THE RANTING/VENTING THREAD: THIRD ITERATION 

I'm irked that the OP of this thread didn't invite us to talk about what irks us in our home countries as well. Oh wait, that'd make too many people on this forum angry and "trigger" people here wouldn't it?

yeah i mean, what are the chances that someone living in korea would make a thread about something to do with korea on a forum dedicated to life and teaching in korea? this madness has got to stop.

I'm irked that the OP of this thread didn't invite us to talk about what irks us in our home countries as well. Oh wait, that'd make too many people on this forum angry and "trigger" people here wouldn't it?

yeah i mean, what are the chances that someone living in korea would make a thread about something to do with korea on a forum dedicated to life and teaching in korea? this madness has got to stop.

Will everyone just stop bickering and just think of the children! For ****'s sake

I'm irked that the OP of this thread didn't invite us to talk about what irks us in our home countries as well. Oh wait, that'd make too many people on this forum angry and "trigger" people here wouldn't it?

Considering your genetic "blend", I'm curious...does that make it so NOTHING bothers you from either "culture"or EVERYTHING bothers you from both cultures?  None of the above?

I'm human, I'm not a robot... in other words, there are things that bother me too.
With that said, I also don't really give a crap when people make fun of Korea or America, so this thread doesn't necessarily bother me, but what does bother me is that we aren't really being reflective of our own cultures either. (Wearing shoes in houses, food portion size problems, etc.).

Edit: Also I'll mention, if I were to consider myself very much dominantly Korean, then yes I'd probably find many posts in this thread offensive... but I don't necessarily.

I'm irked that the OP of this thread didn't invite us to talk about what irks us in our home countries as well. Oh wait, that'd make too many people on this forum angry and "trigger" people here wouldn't it?

Considering your genetic "blend", I'm curious...does that make it so NOTHING bothers you from either "culture"or EVERYTHING bothers you from both cultures?  None of the above?

For those of us with a bicultural experience, what bothers us the most is when one side or the other talks like they're hot shit and totally overlook the messed up stuff they do as well.

The other reason a lot of us do the "but back home" thing is that a lot of people seem to not realize or forget what goes on back home when they post.

I'm human, I'm not a robot... in other words, there are things that bother me too.
With that said, I also don't really give a crap when people make fun of Korea or America, so this thread doesn't necessarily bother me, but what does bother me is that we aren't really being reflective of our own cultures either. (Wearing shoes in houses, food portion size problems, etc.).

I wish there was a middle ground. I forgot my wallet on the table in the kitchen. My shoes are on. It's 2 long strides to get it and my shoes are "clean." (as in NOT filthy)

Let it go. The floor is not sacred. There's a spectrum between sleeping with your damn shoes on and treating the floor like it's the Holy Land.

I'm human, I'm not a robot... in other words, there are things that bother me too.
With that said, I also don't really give a crap when people make fun of Korea or America, so this thread doesn't necessarily bother me, but what does bother me is that we aren't really being reflective of our own cultures either. (Wearing shoes in houses, food portion size problems, etc.).

I wish there was a middle ground. I forgot my wallet on the table in the kitchen. My shoes are on. It's 2 long strides to get it and my shoes are "clean." (as in NOT filthy)

Let it go. The floor is not sacred. There's a spectrum between sleeping with your damn shoes on and treating the floor like it's the Holy Land.

I do the same actually. My mom used to scream at me whenever I did this. I think that that is okay... I mean... what is two steps? 

What I'm talking about is for example- I had a friend in middle school and when I went to his house, because I had been so accustomed to taking my shoes off I did just that. He told me I could keep them on but that just felt really weird to me... until I not only stepped on some weird sticky spots in the carpet... I stepped on some frickin' old gum his 5 year old sister spat out on the carpet. Had another friend in high school whose house was also a shoes-in house and if I took my shoes off for even one hour, my socks/feet would be black and dirty... This is what I mean.

The other reason a lot of us do the "but back home" thing is that a lot of people seem to not realize or forget what goes on back home when they post.

a black american friend of yours posts about a racist incident they experience in the US on facebook. you write "well it's okay, there's racism in south korea too. and in south korea there aren't even any anti-discrimination laws like there are in the US!". this person has never been to south korea in their life.

a british friend of yours complains about Theresa May. you write "well in south korea they have park geun-hye, she recently got impeached for corruption! theresa may is a saint in comparison, be grateful you live in england".

can you see how ridiculous those comments are? would you even write something like that in the first place? and yet that is exactly what you do when someone living in korea talking about issues with koreans or korea and you pull the whole "well what about in the US?" or "in the US this happens too!" card.

never mind the fact that it's actually a logical fallacy and not a valid argument at all.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whataboutism

Mustard doesn't belong on the pizza. Just for dipping the pizza.

Also Pizza School etc are great and should be praised.

Also mustard belongs on the beat.

Napoli Pizza is based pizza.

Any pizza under 10,000 for a whole pizza is based pizza.

Plus once you put half a bottle of sriracha on it, and half a dozen beers in you, it tastes awesome.

Speaking of tasty food abominations, I could really go for some deep fried cali rolls slathered with sriracha mayo.

That sounds like some delicious trash. I've never had deep fried cali rolls, before. Is that a thing?

  Never?? It's amazing garbage!!! I thought it was a common bastardization but maybe not. Mmmm get you some!!

Sushi place in my hometown does this. I think they call them crazy boy rolls. Really good. I've never seen them anywhere else though.

the sound of smacking lips and slurping of food. 

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The other reason a lot of us do the "but back home" thing is that a lot of people seem to not realize or forget what goes on back home when they post.

a black american friend of yours posts about a racist incident they experience in the US on facebook. you write "well it's okay, there's racism in south korea too. and in south korea there aren't even any anti-discrimination laws like there are in the US!". this person has never been to south korea in their life.

a british friend of yours complains about Theresa May. you write "well in south korea they have park geun-hye, she recently got impeached for corruption! theresa may is a saint in comparison, be grateful you live in england".

can you see how ridiculous those comments are? would you even write something like that in the first place? and yet that is exactly what you do when someone living in korea talking about issues with koreans or korea and you pull the whole "well what about in the US?" or "in the US this happens too!" card.

never mind the fact that it's actually a logical fallacy and not a valid argument at all.

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Tu_quoque

http://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Whataboutism

But in many cases, people making these comments are either insinuating or explicitly stating that such things don't happen back home are saying they are a uniquely Korean phenomenon. It would be like someone saying that British culture is flawed or there is something wrong with British people because of such and such a thing involving May or Corbyn or some guy on the street. Pointing out it happens in other cultures is done because it points out the incorrect assertion that it is some sort of uniquely Korean phenomenon. In that case, it is not a logical fallacy, instead it using an example to disprove an incorrect assertion.

Also, people who make these comparisons tend not to object to bringing up other countries when it supports their point, then when someone points out that indeed such a thing does happen in their own country, the response isn't the logical one of admitting an error, it's to criticize the person for the very thing they did- bring up an example from another country.

Furthermore, the goal is not simply to win a debate, but to increase understanding. Citing other examples serves to expand a person's thinking and consider other events which may be analogous to back home. No analogy is perfect, but they can be quite close. Samurai and knights are not a perfect match, but you can draw comparisons to them. The average poster on here isn't looking for a debate championship, they are looking to survive, adapt, and thrive in a foreign culture to which they may not have much exposure and may be a bit of a shock. Using such examples allows a person not to overreact emotionally to certain things they may see.

And as many posters admit, most of these cases are not logical arguments but 'rants' or 'venting', and I'm quite certain that neither of those is a logical argument either.

Also, ranting and venting is not a healthy way to deal with stress. https://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/high-octane-women/201102/feel-venting-you-may-want-think-again-literally

Also, ranting and venting is not a healthy way to deal with stress.

Swearing and pointing my index finger at someone is my preferred method, works great! 

Also, ranting and venting is not a healthy way to deal with stress

+1

Recently, I've been needing to "solve" a commute problem.

When I take the bus home, there are these two Korean men smoking at the bus stop.

The first two times, I pointed to the "no smoking" sign, they muttered some nonsense, and walked away.

However, the third time, I simply looked at them and didn't say anything, because they swore openly as I approached (no muttering, which indicated to me that they didn't intend on walking away or putting their cigarettes out).

Solution: I started walking to a different bus stop (the stop before that one).

The beauty of it...

When they got on the bus, who do they sit next to...

You guessed it :)  (lovely smoke smell, thanks guys)

Thankfully, the weather is getting nicer, so I can start walking home to avoid the issue.

In short, I agree with you Mr. D.  Removing myself from the situation is much healthier than beating my head against the bric/those two rude smokers (I think "rude" and "smoker" are unnecessarily redundant).

1) using the car's horn instead of the brakes.

2) using the car's horn when they cannot see or understand why you are stopped with your right turn signal on - reasons often include pedestrian crossing the side street, or a car exiting the (single lane) side street.

the only actual day to day stuff that irks me is not having a set walking pattern. except filling up the whole road when possible. i just don't understand why schools aren't starting to enforce even though there's signs everywhere. even my korean course supplied by the government talk about keeping to the right.

and maybe blocking exits (locking them, putting stuff there, standing in door ways)