I completely agree, and for the first few years in Korea I tried to stick to my guns about academic achievement being a reward in itself.
Quote from: philby1985 on September 14, 2014, 11:30:50 amGeneral question (not directed at anyone in particular). What rewards system did your teachers implement when you went to school? I never got stickers, stamps or candy for finishing tasks, bringing our books and pencil cases, coming to class on time or waiting quietly (in 2 lines) outside the classroom. We never had party days for good behaviour.For me, the reward was always happy parents, happy teachers and a sense of achievement.I completely agree, and for the first few years in Korea I tried to stick to my guns about academic achievement being a reward in itself. But later I completely caved. It's not my country, I'm not here to fix anything. In Korea, only actions that reap immediate rewards seem to be worthwhile. Look at personal relationships here, you're my friend until I don't need you anymore and then you're just tossed aside. Sorry to be harsh, just my observation.
General question (not directed at anyone in particular). What rewards system did your teachers implement when you went to school? I never got stickers, stamps or candy for finishing tasks, bringing our books and pencil cases, coming to class on time or waiting quietly (in 2 lines) outside the classroom. We never had party days for good behaviour.For me, the reward was always happy parents, happy teachers and a sense of achievement.
Quote from: orangeman on September 14, 2014, 12:42:17 pmI completely agree, and for the first few years in Korea I tried to stick to my guns about academic achievement being a reward in itself. I've stuck to my guns here and I refuse to hand out candy or give out stickers and stamps. I should point out that I teach at a middle school, so I'm not sure my hard-line stance would work with elementary.
I think doing basic things that are required and being given a reward for them is extremely counterproductive. When they get into the real world they will have the mentality of 'Oh I showed up to work on time today where is my bonus?'
Foreigners who complain about the system of handing out candy for expected behavior yet continue the practice is a little baffling.Candy as a reward should truly be used as a reward. People need to stop giving it for basic things that are required for every student and give to those who go above and beyond.
Quote from: country09 on September 15, 2014, 08:52:40 amI think doing basic things that are required and being given a reward for them is extremely counterproductive. When they get into the real world they will have the mentality of 'Oh I showed up to work on time today where is my bonus?' So you don't think companies in the "real world" track attendance and timeliness for the purpose of bonuses and raises?
Quote from: Mr C on September 19, 2014, 07:59:22 amQuote from: country09 on September 15, 2014, 08:52:40 amI think doing basic things that are required and being given a reward for them is extremely counterproductive. When they get into the real world they will have the mentality of 'Oh I showed up to work on time today where is my bonus?' So you don't think companies in the "real world" track attendance and timeliness for the purpose of bonuses and raises? Office work? Attendance? Not sure, but if you work in retail or fast food, or any service industry job, attendance is extremely important, and remember, the majority of people don't work at high-pay jobs that don't mind much if you aren't at work once in awhile, but yeah, you get rewarded by keeping your job if you are there, generally.I've never worked for a company that rewards those things. They have always rewarded hard work, which just so happens to be related to being on time and turning up. I've seen people get fired though for not turning up on time .... I guess the reward is keeping your job
Office work? Attendance? Not sure, but if you work in retail or fast food, or any service industry job, attendance is extremely important, and remember, the majority of people don't work at high-pay jobs that don't mind much if you aren't at work once in awhile, but yeah, you get rewarded by keeping your job if you are there, generally.
Quote from: Mr C on September 19, 2014, 07:59:22 amQuote from: country09 on September 15, 2014, 08:52:40 amI think doing basic things that are required and being given a reward for them is extremely counterproductive. When they get into the real world they will have the mentality of 'Oh I showed up to work on time today where is my bonus?' So you don't think companies in the "real world" track attendance and timeliness for the purpose of bonuses and raises? Please inform me of these jobs so I can coast through life by just showing up on time. Someone above already mentioned the reward for showing up to do your job is that you get to keep your job.