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  • mr
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How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« on: June 20, 2013, 01:23:42 pm »
My co teacher and I are having a hard time to schedule camps for the next year. We need to do 100 hours (5 weeks) of camps. According to my school, camps can only be from Monday to Friday, and has to be 5 days folllowing each other.
So if there is a red day (ex Christmas/New year etc) we lose a day, and therefor cant do a camp during that week.
Also, we are coming back from vacation on a Friday (another week lost)

How does your school schedule camps? 2 weeks in summer and 3 in winter? Are they always from Monday to Friday.
This means that I will NEVER get my vacation days all together in a block, but rather a week here and a week there.

Please help.


Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #1 on: June 20, 2013, 01:29:16 pm »
I would speak to the principal about starting again on a Monday rather than a Friday.  See if it is possible.


  • acousticr
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #2 on: June 20, 2013, 01:34:38 pm »
They shouldn't have to be M-F, that's something your school will probably have to budge on. At my school, if there's a red day, there's a red day. We had summer camp the week of 8/15 last year, and we will this year too. Because I have to take my renewal leave in summer, we're splitting things up really awkwardly - two days right when school ends, and two weeks later on.

Taking vacation a week at a time doesn't sound bad to me, it's what I did mostly (or even a few days here and there, if that's what worked). If you have a particular reason why it won't work for you, though, bring it up with your school. Have alternative suggestions ready and be calm but stick to your guns as much as possible. That's how I've gotten my way when I needed things here.
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  • Grimne_Lothos
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #3 on: June 20, 2013, 01:39:57 pm »
my school does 1 week in winter and 1 week in summer.   Some years instead of having a winter camp they pay to go to an English village in Cheonan for a week.


  • Mezoti97
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #4 on: June 20, 2013, 01:46:21 pm »
I suppose it probably depends on where your school is located. In my rural area, my main school does English camp during the summer time for 3 weeks, I think (according to one of my co-teachers at my country schools, she said that it's standard for schools in our area to have 3 weeks of camp in the summer). However, I don't have to teach at the camp at my main school; I am only assigned to teach camp with a few other NETs in my area at our local English center, so my main co-teacher will do the English camp at our main school by herself. We didn't even have any winter camp at my main school last winter; again, at that time, I just taught winter camp classes held at the English center with the other NETs. I just did a week of camp at that time, due to my winter vacation days.


Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #5 on: June 20, 2013, 02:16:00 pm »
5 hours a day 4 days a week

3 in summer 2 in winter

3+4,5,6 in summer
3+4,4+5 in winter

Fridays are usually given too :)


  • jamasian
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    • December 05, 2011, 03:02:00 pm
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #6 on: June 24, 2013, 03:47:48 pm »
Hmmm My contract says up to 2 weeks/ 40 hours. Is yours concrete? My friends were also able to pull off doing less "days" by extending hours. Ex: Instead of 4 hours per 10 days (M-F), let's do 8 hours per 5 days.
They also put in a Saturday to make up for the red day.


Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #7 on: June 24, 2013, 07:39:51 pm »
Three in summer, three in winter. Vacation is one week in summer and one week in winter. It's quite a bit of work, but the overtime is nice.


  • Ley_Druid
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #8 on: June 25, 2013, 08:18:02 am »
Holy Moses! Where are all of you located? I never ever, not in this lifetime, have had to do so many hours of camp a year. And this year, I am moaning about this year's summer camp's 25 hours.


  • Chicagohotdog
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #9 on: June 25, 2013, 08:23:52 am »
100 hours?! Seriously?!  I have 32 hours working with two different schools.

Where does it say that schools need to complete 100 hours of camp?!
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  • aschil6
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #10 on: June 25, 2013, 08:48:16 am »
Hmm I didn't even realize this was a rule. My school doesn't do nearly that much camp. We had 5 days, two hrs/day during winter and we're doing 3 days, 3 hrs/day for summer...


  • Mezoti97
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #11 on: June 25, 2013, 08:49:48 am »
In my case, I was just talking about the number of days my particular area requires schools to have English camp for during the summer vacation. I don't really know about the exact hours, so I just talked about the number of days. I was told that the camp I will teach at this summer will only be in the morning and finish before lunchtime, which I think is nice, since the winter camp I did was longer and went into the afternoon well past lunchtime. The summer camp will be held for three weeks, but because of my summer vacation days, I'm not required to teach for all three weeks of the camp.


  • Pikkle
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #12 on: June 25, 2013, 09:17:45 am »
That seems extreme! I have 10 hours this summer (1 week). Winter is 20 hours (2 weeks). Also, I've never heard of this red day rule. Whenever holidays happen, they just make camp start on a Friday or end on a Monday for me.

100 hours seems ridiculously awful and a nightmare to plan.


Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #13 on: June 25, 2013, 10:45:57 am »
I don't think we do 100 hours, though. I can't really calculate properly, because some parts of camp are taught just by bilingual teachers and some just by native teachers. I'd doubt it was 100 hours though.


Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #14 on: June 25, 2013, 10:52:31 am »
I'm pretty sure unless they count winter classes, which they probably do, my school does no more than 20 hours camp.  If they add in winter classes they probably push 100 in the english dept.


  • btpham13
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #15 on: June 25, 2013, 02:11:25 pm »
Last summer I had 10 days, 4 hours a day of "summer class" in the morning, and on top of that, 5 days, 2 hours a day of "summer camp."  I got paid OT for working 30 hours in one week, so whatevs.

This summer, I'm 'ONLY' having 5 days, 4 hours a day of "summer class" in the morning again, and 5 days, 2 hours a day of "summer camp" in the afternoon.

I'll get OT as well.


  • korr
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #16 on: June 25, 2013, 03:38:04 pm »
I think a lot of schools have camps that exist on paper and don't actually happen. The most any of mine have ever been able to squeeze into one summer is a two-day sixteen-hour camp plus a weeklong twenty-hour camp. That was with some serious schedule juggling.


Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #17 on: June 25, 2013, 05:56:11 pm »
If there are multiple classes happening at once then 100 hours shouldnt be that hard. We have two or three simultaneous classes for four periods. That gives us 45 classes in one week.

But along the lines of vacation time and all of that, our principal just moved a camp we already planned back one week disrupting everyones vacation plans. My after school program is just kind of under their thumb so they can do what they want. I already had tickets for a trip. They love to make our lives hard.


Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2013, 01:47:27 pm »
If there are multiple classes happening at once then 100 hours shouldnt be that hard. We have two or three simultaneous classes for four periods. That gives us 45 classes in one week.

But along the lines of vacation time and all of that, our principal just moved a camp we already planned back one week disrupting everyones vacation plans. My after school program is just kind of under their thumb so they can do what they want. I already had tickets for a trip. They love to make our lives hard.

That's why you clear the dates early in the semester.  Once you get it negotiated with the principal, head teacher, or even local ed office supervisor, then you book the trip.  No chance of getting screwed later on.  If they change the dates of the camp, they either have to do it without you or refund you the money. 


  • mr
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Re: How does your school fit 100 hours of camp in a year?
« Reply #19 on: August 16, 2013, 05:51:51 pm »
SMOE... we should do 100 hours a year (5 weeks)