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Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #120 on: July 08, 2015, 11:24:19 am »
I just got accepted into a DELTA program outside Korea. I'm curious if there are any DELTA-certified people using this site who can speak about professional opportunities that the DELTA may have opened for them, in Korea or anywhere else. I want to get a DELTA primarily for the practical skills --- the skills I got from the CELTA completely changed my approach to teaching --- but if there are greater professional opportunities to be had, that would be nice as well. For example, people often mention post-DELTA business English teaching opportunities, but is it really the case that a DELTA module 3 focused on business English would better position someone for a career in teaching business English?

It depends on what field you want to specialise in, and in which country etc... Some people will tell you an MA is more useful. I don't really know much about business English to be honest but I mostly work in teacher training nowadays where all the jobs I go for require a DELTA as a minimum.


Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #121 on: July 08, 2015, 12:38:11 pm »
I just got accepted into a DELTA program outside Korea. I'm curious if there are any DELTA-certified people using this site who can speak about professional opportunities that the DELTA may have opened for them, in Korea or anywhere else. I want to get a DELTA primarily for the practical skills --- the skills I got from the CELTA completely changed my approach to teaching --- but if there are greater professional opportunities to be had, that would be nice as well. For example, people often mention post-DELTA business English teaching opportunities, but is it really the case that a DELTA module 3 focused on business English would better position someone for a career in teaching business English?

It depends on what field you want to specialise in, and in which country etc... Some people will tell you an MA is more useful. I don't really know much about business English to be honest but I mostly work in teacher training nowadays where all the jobs I go for require a DELTA as a minimum.

Did your DELTA module 3 assignment cover issues related to teacher training?

No


Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #122 on: July 31, 2015, 02:07:17 pm »
Finished the course last week in Thailand. A hell of a month. MPF MPF!


Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #123 on: August 01, 2015, 04:48:12 pm »
I taught in Korea for 10 years and never needed an advanced degree or a CELTA.  Just have a puney 100-hour online TEFL which is also the minimum for here in China.

Thanks for the online link.

I'm doing uni teaching here in China (lower hours) and finally trying to finish a MA TESOL online.

IELTS is pretty big here in China so I'll try to work in a CELTA sometime.

For long-timers who don't have TEFL with a supervised instruction component, this would look good as it would mean you are trying to upgrade your skills.

What I'm trying to do is become a TESOL professor in my country after finishing my MA and CELTA would help me get a leg up.

There is a licensed center just a couple kilometers up the road from where I live where I could do the observed teaching.


It seems the online CELTA doesn't exist?


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Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #124 on: August 01, 2015, 09:03:45 pm »

It seems the online CELTA doesn't exist?

Uh, yeah. That sorta defeats a big part of the purpose of the CELTA training i.e. an intensive month that's there to separate the wheat from the chaff.  :rolleyes:


Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #125 on: August 03, 2015, 01:41:39 am »
There is a CELTA where you do the input sessions and assignments online and have the lesson observations face to face. I know, I've tutored on it.


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Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #126 on: August 27, 2015, 10:31:09 am »
Just came back.  Just a note: I am Vietnamese American and did it in Saigon ILA.  Was actually fun.  First time ever having ALL HIGHLY MOTIVATED STUDENTS.  It's a amazing.  Assignments and Lesson planning were on the heavy workload side but the teaching was a JOY  :azn:  Tutors were also cool and down to earth.  Do it.  Definitely do it if you can fit it into one of your school's long break. 

Also would recommend "learning teaching" by Scrivener to get the whole mindset behind the cambridge celta model of student centered teaching.


Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #127 on: August 27, 2015, 11:15:55 am »
I completed my CELTA in Ecuador. It's a pretty neat deal but a heck of a lot of work. However, I would recommend it, if you were planning to be in/near the states AND can afford it.


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Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #128 on: August 27, 2015, 12:29:27 pm »
I did the CELTA before coming to Korea and I'm happy to answer any PMs if people want more specific information about the workload.

I can echo most people's thoughts; it's intensive and a lot of work.

But I also think it's very difficult to actually fail the course.  You get a lot of warnings early on if they think that's a possibility and from what I saw, a lot of support from the tutors.  I also saw people on my course who were a joke when it came to planning and professionalism.  They all passed.


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Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #129 on: September 12, 2015, 01:09:43 pm »
Reviving this thread to get some more information on the CELTA programs available throughout Asia/SEA.  My current contract is going to wrap in August of 2016, and I'm looking into some further professional development.  I intend to gradually travel into Europe and teach there, so it sounds like a CELTA certification is the way to go.

My questions for current CELTA holders are:
  • What made you choose CELTA over TESOL?
  • Where did you receive your training?  Specifically interested in experiences in Asia or South East Asia.
  • How did your employment opportunities change after completing the course?  Was it worth it?

I'm not really concerned about being able to handle the intensity of the course, and am currently leaning toward the International House course in Chiang Mai, Thailand, but all other suggestions are greatly appreciated!


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Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #130 on: September 12, 2015, 04:24:33 pm »
But I also think it's very difficult to actually fail the course.  You get a lot of warnings early on if they think that's a possibility and from what I saw, a lot of support from the tutors.  I also saw people on my course who were a joke when it came to planning and professionalism.  They all passed.

That's the only gripe I had about the course.  The course is amazing but people who are almost crap at planning AND/OR at actually running a class still pass.  It kind of dilutes the meaning of the CELTA from employer IMHO


Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #131 on: September 12, 2015, 08:24:43 pm »
But I also think it's very difficult to actually fail the course.  You get a lot of warnings early on if they think that's a possibility and from what I saw, a lot of support from the tutors.  I also saw people on my course who were a joke when it came to planning and professionalism.  They all passed.

That's the only gripe I had about the course.  The course is amazing but people who are almost crap at planning AND/OR at actually running a class still pass.  It kind of dilutes the meaning of the CELTA from employer IMHO

Sounds like some trainers are avoiding confrontation for an easy life. I've failed a few people
when working as a CELTA trainer but as The Arm pointed out they kind of knew they were going to fail beforehand.

To answer nomadic madda

I did a cheaper CELTA equiv, which caused me one of two problems looking for jobs in Europe when they didn't accept substitutes. However those problems disappeared after I did
the DELTA.

So, If you don't have any plans to do the DELTA , do the CELTA just to avoid any issues. Getting the Celta and having a couple of years' experience will get you a job with the British Council in Europe, which whatever you think of their corporate ethos, will  lead to more potential and diverse career opportunities in TEFL than any other organization I know.


Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #132 on: September 12, 2015, 09:25:21 pm »
IF you plan on sticking around in Korea, the CELTA is just so-so (lol). If you want to teach in better countries (Europe, Thailand) or make more money (Mid East), then you will need a CELTA. Eitherway a CELTA will make you a better teacher, so there's that too lol


Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #133 on: October 11, 2015, 05:22:06 pm »
I did the CELTA at IH Chiang Mai this past(2015) January.  I really enjoyed it and got a lot out of the classes and evaluations.  I don't check the waygook page often as I have left Korea, but I do have a couple items that I would like to mention for people looking to take the course there.
  • The grounds and housing are separated away from the city.  You are a bit secluded.  I found this great for being able to study and focus.
    You will get informational packets the first Sunday.  READ THOSE MATERIALS.  THis will help you with getting information for the coming weeks.
    Talk to the students before and between classes.  Even if you want to throw up before a teaching lesson day.  The investment is worth it in terms of student interaction and for assignments. 
    The students are fantastic!  Moreover they WANT you to succede.  The intermediate students have been coming for a while and pretty much know the CELTA teaching way so they will get up and move around and follow your instructions without any gripe or unwillingness.
    The instructors that I had were very good at teaching the classes.  If you have learned something in a class(a proctoring technique, a drilling prompt, whatever) you  are expected to use that technique! 
    Not everyone who pays and takes the course passes.  We had a few people drop out and not return, a person drop the proctored portion but still take the course(just no certificate at the end) and a person was asked to leave halfway through as he was not going to pass the course. 
    If you need to fix one of your papers-Find the evaluator who graded the paper and FIND OUT WHAT HE WANTS TO SEE.  This will help you with corrections.  Do this as soon as you get your paper back. 
    The food at the center is AMAZING!  The chef is wonderful and really the food is a good variety of Thai and western food. 
    I can only speak for IH Chiang Mai - Copy Machine - you only get 400 copies with your copy code.  You will go over and then have to pay per sheet used.  *Pat the Bunny tip* The people who have dropped the course(there will always be a couple) still have their copies allotment and copy code in their file.  Get that code and you can use those pages.  I had to pay just 10 baht while others had to pay several hundred baht.
    Remember that they are teaching their CELTA technique.  You may not agree with everything they instruct.  It is best to file away the disagreements in your head and not try to push issues with instructors.  If they say 'don't drill from the board' well...don't do that. 

    I would recommend prep-wise the books:  LEARNING TEACHING Jim Scrivener (Macmillan), PRACTICAL ENGLISH USAGE, Michael Swan (OUP), SOUND FOUNDATIONS, Adrian Underhill, (Macmillan) they have copies at the school as well. 

    I got a lot out of the course, especially the proctored teaching.  I had previously finished the TeacherReady course and had my license.  The whole first week I was wondering why I had chosen this stressful course and not a month in Bali.  I am now a teacher at an international school in Europe teaching Literature and Writing to middle schoolers.  I love it and am happy with my time in Korea, but much happier now. 

    I will probably not check back here  on Waygook but if anyone has questions feel free to send a PM and I will respond. 


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Re: CELTA courses
« Reply #134 on: November 06, 2015, 11:04:56 am »
BUMP..   Does anyone now if the CELTA is offered in Seoul anywhere?  I can't find any info..


Re: CELTA courses
« Reply #135 on: November 06, 2015, 11:43:28 am »
the British Council here used to run a combo online-face to face course. but it seems the last time it was run was last year, in 2014. either that or they just haven't updated the website since then. maybe send them a mail or call them and find out: https://www.britishcouncil.kr/en/teacher/cambridge-celta

this place also apparently offers the CELTA in Seoul:
IGSE Language Centre
Seonganno 7-13
Gangdong-Gu
Seoul
134-031
KOREA, REPUBLIC OF
Contact: James Forrest
Phone: +82 2 6477 5151
Fax: +82 2 6477 5167
Email: celta@igse.ac.kr
« Last Edit: November 06, 2015, 11:46:27 am by johnny russian »


Re: CELTA courses
« Reply #136 on: November 06, 2015, 11:55:46 am »
others will go on about how you failed the Google test.  I shall, however, give you the information:

http://www.cambridgeenglish.org/find-a-centre/find-a-teaching-centre/


Here you select the kind of CELTA course you want and get some information about what places in what countries all over the world.  Select the country and get some link or info about the institution that offers it.  Unfortunately some links are out of date.  It does give you 2 Seoul options. 

British Council in Seoul have stopped offering it for the moment. I called them last month and they said they don't have any scheduled.  IGSE Language Centre are offering CELTA in January.  They are considering offering a part-time course in the future.  I would like to do the part-time course. 



 


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Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #137 on: May 25, 2016, 02:22:20 pm »
has anyone here done a DELTA? what was your experience of it?


Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #138 on: May 25, 2016, 05:20:30 pm »
I did it a while ago and have also been a DELTA tutor. It's a tough course. Most people fail at least one observation because there are so many criteria involved. There's a lot of written work that backs up everything you do, which will get taken apart if done half arsed or without proper research.


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Re: CELTA/DELTA Information
« Reply #139 on: May 25, 2016, 07:40:50 pm »
nice pretty much the answer i was looking for. cheers.