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The K-pop thread
« on: November 16, 2023, 01:55:44 pm »
Are NewJeans on their way to overtaking Blackpink as the number one girl group in the game? Have HYBE finally found a girl group worthy of challenging the almighty BTS on the world stage?


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #1 on: November 16, 2023, 01:59:46 pm »
a good way to find out who is more popular is who has more deepfake video on particular adult sites.  or listen to their dumb music that marty likes so much. i think their music is meant to be watched,  not listened to.  maybe im just a bigot.
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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #2 on: November 16, 2023, 02:02:41 pm »
a good way to find out who is more popular is who has more deepfake video on particular adult sites.  or listen to their dumb music that marty likes so much. i think their music is meant to be watched,  not listened to.  maybe im just a bigot.

Don't let your lack of knowledge fool you into thinking Marty knows what he's talking about. He's speaking of a different era. Similar to how he complains about the older members on here and rock music. Marty would be scoffed at by any young k-pop fans.


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #3 on: November 16, 2023, 02:26:24 pm »
I get into some pretty serious discussions with some of my grade 5 and 6 students on this topic, but the golden era of K-Pop started and ended with H.O.T.  I mean just the name, High Five of Teenagers, sets them apart.  What does BTS stand for?  Those guys were just a flash in the pan.  H.O.T. could still do standing room only shows in front of the Doota building in Dongdaemun if they so chose. 


Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #4 on: November 16, 2023, 03:37:02 pm »
Once walking around Itaewan, I think, I went by a music shop of some type that was jam packed with a few dozen young girls spilling out into the lane. Lots of screaming and hysterics.

I asked one young lady what was going on and she gushed, "It's 2 pm."

I looked at my watch and said, "No it's not. It's only noon."

Feeling old LOL

I did watch a documentary on Black Pink on Netflix and was totally impressed. Became a bit of a fan.


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2023, 03:37:30 pm »
... i think their music is meant to be watched,  not listened to.  maybe im just a bigot.

Come join me BaC. I'm a bigot...also a card carrying racist, and a part-time persecutor of Muslims. There's plenty of them to harass where I live. I even sit outside their place of worship and tell them to bugger-off back to Muslim Land when i get bored.

One thing though, just like you, I'm a fan of K,pop dance. My 7 year old granddaughter shows me all the moves. It seems like all her mates are really into it. These 7 year olds even know the lyrics. Though, I do feel that if 7 year old girls are into something, it's not really appropriate for me to be into it as well. Makes me shiver what could happen if word got out.


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2023, 03:42:54 pm »
What does BTS stand for? 

Easy...'Bacon. Tomato, Sandwich'. But don't say this to a 10 year fan...the tears will flow.

Not joking, I actually did. The reaction was worthy of the Big Screen.

How the hell did I know...never heard of them at the time, and I thought she was talking about food.


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #7 on: November 16, 2023, 04:54:29 pm »
Easy...'Bacon. Tomato, Sandwich'. But don't say this to a 10 year fan...the tears will flow.

I thought BTS was a new Hyundai model :undecided:


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2023, 02:42:14 pm »

I think music is like food. It tends to resonate with you for your
entire lifetime. The newer K-Pop isn't offensive to the ears like
a lot of Korean music was in the 90s and 00s. I wouldn't choose
it myself, but when it is on at the gym it is okay.

Music I dislike is like Bongjak, trot, balla-duh. But also stuff like
Frank Sinatra and Bing Crosby make my skin crawl.
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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #9 on: November 23, 2023, 10:26:35 am »
On Wednesdays we play Blackpink

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X8mYi-oLKbg


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #10 on: November 23, 2023, 11:56:30 am »
I miss when Aristocrat would jump into any thread that ever touched upon music and explain to us what music actually was, and why we all liked the music that we did.  He made it fun. 


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #11 on: November 23, 2023, 01:39:49 pm »
I miss when Aristocrat would jump into any thread that ever touched upon music and explain to us what music actually was, and why we all liked the music that we did.  He made it fun.

I need a lecture on how to appreciate music with a side of how to dress and smell better. And if there's time I'd like to here a detailed description of his sprint training routine.


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #12 on: November 23, 2023, 01:49:13 pm »
I need a lecture on how to appreciate music with a side of how to dress and smell better. And if there's time I'd like to here a detailed description of his sprint training routine.

if only he was still with us to explain to you the difference between "here" and "hear" :cry:


Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #13 on: November 23, 2023, 02:11:23 pm »
I miss when Aristocrat would jump into any thread that ever touched upon music and explain to us what music actually was, and why we all liked the music that we did.  He made it fun.
He did have a point on the kpop thread. Everyone was b*tching about kpop and why they hated Kpop, but none of them had anything to do with music. It was all how Kpop was made or that it was commercial or the way the guys looked.

Basically what people hated was more cultural than musical, yet they tried to say it was about music. Really it was insecurity. The same kind that caused  people to freak out about rap and people to freak out about rock. And people to freak out about disco. And people to freak out about Marilyn Manson. And now people freak out over Kpop. Same impulse. There's some weird impulse that runs through a certain strain of the population back home when it comes to music. "How dare you listen to something outside the bounds of what I like? If you do, you deserve to be at a minimum mocked and at most censored."

Anyways, when pressed people couldn't explain in musical terms what made Kpop bad. Eventually Aristocrat had to explain what he thought the reason was. Essentially in a round about way, it came down to prejudice. There really wasn't a musical justification.

You press Kpop haters enough and eventually what comes out is "These people don't look like me and people like them and not the look I have." That and homophobia.


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #14 on: November 23, 2023, 02:41:36 pm »
if only he was still with us to explain to you the difference between "here" and "hear" :cry:



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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #15 on: November 23, 2023, 03:17:22 pm »
I need a lecture on how to appreciate music with a side of how to dress and smell better. And if there's time I'd like to here a detailed description of his sprint training routine.

Even if he was busy talking down to his co-teachers for not adhering to his principles of classroom management, he always used to make time. 
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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #16 on: November 23, 2023, 04:00:32 pm »
Even if he was busy talking down to his co-teachers for not adhering to his principles of classroom management, he always used to make time. 


Broody sort of character that one. I thought that he was ok for a while, although a very 'Sergeant Major' kind of fella who would rip certain posters unmercifully. Then he himself was getting all sorts from a number of posters. Might have actually ben the thread that you were having a go at him, August...not sure? The prick deflected by calling me a nerd for getting into a snarky debate with Sagi Keun, in a completely unrelated thread or topic. Watched him carefully from then on. Sure enough, he started devolving and losing the plot big-time, not long after.


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #17 on: November 23, 2023, 04:02:52 pm »
Why K-pop sucks? Itís disposable music for people with short attention spans. Musically? Itís just create a hook and catchy lyrics to make-up for the poor vocal ranges of the majority of singers. Not all K-pop is bad but a lot of it is not good. Scrub away the auto-tune and drop the music and it sounds really bad.


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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #18 on: November 23, 2023, 04:13:16 pm »
Why K-pop sucks? Itís disposable music for people with short attention spans. Musically? Itís just create a hook and catchy lyrics to make-up for the poor vocal ranges of the majority of singers. Not all K-pop is bad but a lot of it is not good. Scrub away the auto-tune and drop the music and it sounds really bad.

I'd agree with this assessment. For all the in -your-face, everywhere you turn crap that it is, I only have one song that I remember over the past 10 years, and that's 'Danger Girl'. I can thank a bunch of middle school girls for that one...every night driving them home with this blasting out. I actually don't mind it. Pre K.Pop, like pre early 2000s, I have far more Korean music stuck in my head. way more interesting and memorable.

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Re: The K-pop thread
« Reply #19 on: November 23, 2023, 05:02:15 pm »
K-popís problem is that there is too much of it: every few weeks/months new groups seem to emerge but they are all just recycled versions of the previous ones.