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Understanding English through time
« on: September 14, 2023, 08:56:26 pm »
Somewhere around 1450 our understanding of English, as it is spoken now, evolved. Prior to 1450, we English speakers of today would not have been able to communicate with English speakers of yore. The language was different to the point that it was, in fact, a different language, whilst still being English.

Kind of how I, as a Canuck, feel, when speaking to my Scottish mate. Everyday.

I have been reading lately about how language has been changing with the younger generation. Whilst my generation introduced: cool, groovy, far out, right on...those words didn't represent a fundamental shift in language.

A clear indication of the evolving of language is the social acceptance of text talk, to the point where it has become text speak.

Have you ever heard someone say OMG?

There it is.

Clearly humanity is in a fundamental language shift.

So, my question is this:

How long do you think it will be until we, as a 21st Century people, will be unable to comprehend our future kin? 


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #1 on: September 15, 2023, 05:02:59 am »
I'm still dealing with the 20th Century:

"This is the age of machinery
A mechanical nightmare
The wonderful world of technology
Napalm, hydrogen bombs, biological warfare

This is the twentieth century
But too much aggravation
It's the age of insanity
What has become of the green pleasant fields of Jerusalem

Ain't got no ambition, I'm just disillusioned
I'm a twentieth-century man but I don't want, I don't wanna be here

My mama said she can't understand me
She can't see my motivation
Just give me some security
I'm a paranoid, schizoid product of the twentieth century

You keep all your smart modern writers
Give me William Shakespeare
You keep all your smart modern painters
I'll take Rembrandt, Titian, Da Vinci and Gainsborough"


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #2 on: September 15, 2023, 08:07:23 am »
Do people actually read song lyrics when people awkwardly throw up an entire song?  I get a cool line or two, but why do people put the whole song, or at least a few verses up?  Do they think people are going to read them and think "Now, that was cool.  This guy gets it?" 


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #3 on: September 15, 2023, 08:08:26 am »
Somewhere around 1450 our understanding of English, as it is spoken now, evolved. Prior to 1450, we English speakers of today would not have been able to communicate with English speakers of yore. The language was different to the point that it was, in fact, a different language, whilst still being English.

Kind of how I, as a Canuck, feel, when speaking to my Scottish mate. Everyday.

I have been reading lately about how language has been changing with the younger generation. Whilst my generation introduced: cool, groovy, far out, right on...those words didn't represent a fundamental shift in language.

A clear indication of the evolving of language is the social acceptance of text talk, to the point where it has become text speak.

Have you ever heard someone say OMG?

There it is.

Clearly humanity is in a fundamental language shift.

So, my question is this:

How long do you think it will be until we, as a 21st Century people, will be unable to comprehend our future kin?

So is Van behind or ahead of the curve?  I often don't know what he is trying to say, despite the fact it seems he is using some form of English.


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #4 on: September 15, 2023, 08:36:32 am »
So is Van behind or ahead of the curve?  I often don't know what he is trying to say, despite the fact it seems he is using some form of English.

ahead. i mean, he did own a color TV.


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #5 on: September 15, 2023, 08:47:47 am »
ahead. i mean, he did own a color TV.

In the mid-90s. He was ahead of the curve


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #6 on: September 15, 2023, 12:52:23 pm »
Do people actually read song lyrics when people awkwardly throw up an entire song? 

No never! It's too much hard work.


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #7 on: September 15, 2023, 01:59:58 pm »
Ye old English.  Thou shalt speaketh only the fineth English. 

Get thee to it, thine old farts....


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #8 on: September 15, 2023, 08:22:22 pm »
No never! It's too much hard work.
Well, the only person talking about love thine brother is the preacher
And it seems nobody's interested in learning but the teacher


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #9 on: September 16, 2023, 08:26:08 am »
Well, the only person talking about love thine brother is the preacher
And it seems nobody's interested in learning but the teacher

The only person talking about love today is the preacher. Love and Rockets introduced me to this song.


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #10 on: September 16, 2023, 11:01:57 am »
Pat can't f bomb now that he's on the leader, but if his guests drop one it's copacetic so he goads them into droppin' it (Boulder game day live hours ago).

Understanding a language is about time and place.
Help others, especially animals. Say what you think, be considerate of others. Appreciate more than deprecate. Teach well, jump on teachable moments. Enjoy Korea as it is, without changing it. Dwell! Yet, at times, change your life for the better. "The most important [thing] is to have a good day."


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #11 on: September 18, 2023, 12:57:07 pm »
Jimmy left it in one of the worst places possible.  Does he care?  Hardly.  Yet, when contract renegotiation happens, he may wish he could find it again. 


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Re: Understanding English through time
« Reply #12 on: September 18, 2023, 01:31:27 pm »
Jimmy left it in one of the worst places possible.  Does he care?  Hardly.  Yet, when contract renegotiation happens, he may wish he could find it again.