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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #20 on: March 14, 2023, 11:20:08 am »
http://m.epik.go.kr/description/salary01.php

Look at the maximum pay.

The most populous province is still at 2.5.

The highest provincial pay was previously 2.7 and is currently 2.7.

Which places raised their ceiling caps?


  • hangook77
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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #21 on: March 14, 2023, 11:44:53 am »
http://m.epik.go.kr/description/salary01.php

Look at the maximum pay.

The most populous province is still at 2.5.

The highest provincial pay was previously 2.7 and is currently 2.7.

Which places raised their ceiling caps?

Apparently a handful of the metro cities did.  It's one of the rare times I have to concede to New Orleans.  I originally saw the form just say Busan.  But some other metros went from mostly 2.4 and a couple at 2.5 to 2.6.  But the rural, Gyeonggi, and Seoul where the majority of the teachers still work did not get a raise.  The lowest levels went to minimum wage though.  It did piss off  lot of foreigners though.  I see many on the Facebook groups complain about it and even go after and harass recruiters that post jobs that pay too low.  EPIK set off most foreigners by promising a pay raise and not delivering for most.  There is supposedly a shortage of teachers here now. 


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #22 on: March 14, 2023, 11:55:14 am »
There is supposedly a shortage of teachers here now. 

I don't know if this is related but the two elementary schools where I live don't have a NET anymore.

Oh yeah, and the other two elementary schools about 10 minutes away by car in opposite directions, also don't have a NET.
« Last Edit: March 14, 2023, 12:29:25 pm by Jethro Bodine »


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #23 on: March 14, 2023, 01:04:57 pm »
I don't know if this is related but the two elementary schools where I live don't have a NET anymore.

Oh yeah, and the other two elementary schools about 10 minutes away by car in opposite directions, also don't have a NET.

Sounds about right.  You can see some of the hogwans and a lot of kindies raising their pay to uppers 2's or low 3's.  Of course some are still low 2's bottom feeders.  But you can find them on the Facebook groups.  If you don't mind dealing with kids, you can prob negotiate yourself into the 3's quite easily for those jobs. 


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #24 on: March 14, 2023, 01:56:08 pm »
hagwons*


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #25 on: March 14, 2023, 02:17:24 pm »
hakwons*


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #26 on: March 14, 2023, 02:23:00 pm »
Hack once *


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #27 on: March 14, 2023, 02:25:34 pm »
And if my thought-dreams could be seen
They’d probably put my head in a guillotine


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #28 on: March 14, 2023, 02:27:25 pm »


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #29 on: March 14, 2023, 02:32:03 pm »
Effin annoying*

What do you mean? It's not 호관?
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They’d probably put my head in a guillotine


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #30 on: March 14, 2023, 02:52:25 pm »
 :rolleyes: :rolleyes: :lipsrsealed:


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #31 on: March 14, 2023, 03:10:27 pm »
Okay this was some weird stuff. 

Technical spelling is ".hakwon"
« Last Edit: March 20, 2023, 08:49:02 am by Kyndo »


Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #32 on: March 14, 2023, 04:13:03 pm »


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #33 on: March 17, 2023, 10:07:55 am »
Talked to the Gyeongbuk POE rep and they said over here, it's for the schools *only*, and meant as a last resort if no cheaper rents are available in the are. NETs here will still be receiving the 400k.  :sad:

I pointed out that I knew of teachers who were receiving 500k, and they told me in no uncertain terms that that was a mistake, and if they knew who it was, they would talk to the school.

So, uh, just saying, if you're getting 500k from a gyeongbuk school, don't make any noise about it!

The rent must be a little bit cheaper out in the rural areas of Gyeongbuk for the POE to still decided to not give teachers the extra 100,000 won :<  I'm in Daegu, which I guess is technically in Gyeongbuk province we're under our own office of education (DMOE). I think the reason for the rent increases going to all teachers was due to rents increasing in the two expensive districts "Suseong" and "Dalseo" and many EPIK teachers living in non- Epik provided housing in those areas, so they made it fair and just allowed the teachers to get the extra bit of housing allowance.


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #34 on: March 17, 2023, 10:27:14 am »
The rent must be a little bit cheaper out in the rural areas of Gyeongbuk for the POE to still decided to not give teachers the extra 100,000 won

Then why give the schools 500k? If it's not getting expensive for the teachers, why would it be getting expensive for the schools?


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #35 on: March 17, 2023, 03:28:08 pm »
Then why give the schools 500k? If it's not getting expensive for the teachers, why would it be getting expensive for the schools?

EPIK approved the 500k.  If it's anything like the past, the local education offices or school are getting that money.  It's already been budgeted.  But they are keeping it for themselves and not giving it to you.  That's why the local places are nickle and diming you.  I am not saying it's necessarily going into a local officials personal pocket.  But it is being diverted to another budget within that provincial or local office.  I remember they use to pull this stuff when I lived in the country.  IE  Not giving you multiple school allowance during the vacation, etc.  But on the plus side, the schools and education offices left you alone.  Go home early, no desk warming, etc.  So, you left them alone too.  Seems many of the rural provinces are not paying out the money while some of the metro cities are.  Which means you are now making the same as rural top levels minus the rural bonus and multiple school allowances unless you go to more than one school there.  2.6 plus 100 k I mean. 
« Last Edit: March 20, 2023, 08:49:56 am by Kyndo »


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #36 on: March 18, 2023, 12:31:19 pm »
Then why give the schools 500k? If it's not getting expensive for the teachers, why would it be getting expensive for the schools?

Maybe the extra money is given to the schools to use towards the key money/ deposit? Or they could just be pocketing it or using it towards other things like school renovations... who knows :<


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #37 on: March 20, 2023, 09:02:30 am »
EPIK approved the 500k.
..
  Not giving you multiple school allowance during the vacation, etc.  But on the plus side, the schools and education offices left you alone.  Go home early, no desk warming, etc.  So, you left them alone too.  Seems many of the rural provinces are not paying out the money while some of the metro cities are.  Which means you are now making the same as rural top levels minus the rural bonus and multiple school allowances unless you go to more than one school there.  2.6 plus 100 k I mean. 
I don't think EPIK has anything to do with this. It's a funding issue that is decided independently by each MOE or POE. Some have chosen to allocate more budget to schools in their area, probably due to rising rent making it difficult to find housing close to the school with only a 400k  budget. Some POEs/MOEs have given that same allocation to NETs regardless of whether it's a stipend or not (which is nice). Unfortunately I'm not in one of those areas (and from the sound of it, likewise for you).  :sad:

Also, not giving you the multiple school allowance is actually a NEIS issue. In order to qualify for multi-school allowance, you are required to log into NEIS that you are going to all of your branch schools *at least* once in a month. If you haven't entered them in, then the system doesn't recognize that you qualify for the multi-school allowance for that month.

There are 2 possible solutions to the issue:
- (lawful good) Make sure you go to all your branch schools at least once per month, and log it into NEIS.
- (lawful evil)    Make sure you enter into NEIS that you went to your branch schools at least once a month. Keep in mind that the VP and P look at and approve all business travel (including going to branch schools every week), so they'll need to be in on the scam if you aren't actually going to them.   :wink:
« Last Edit: March 20, 2023, 11:07:22 am by Kyndo »


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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #38 on: March 20, 2023, 09:51:45 am »
Maybe the extra money is given to the schools to use towards the key money/ deposit? Or they could just be pocketing it or using it towards other things like school renovations... who knows :<

Schools don't have a key money/deposit fund, at least in my province. Instead they pay more monthly with no deposit (such as 0 deposit 400k monthly, instead of 10m deposit 300k monthly).
Landlords often accept because there's no risk that the schools won't pay up or disappear on them, and are likely to renew the lease year after year.

And yeah, EPIK has nothing to do with teachers once they finish orientation and are placed in schools. They're just a recruiter/placement/orientation service.


  • hangook77
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Re: Increase in EPIK housing subsidy?
« Reply #39 on: March 20, 2023, 12:31:34 pm »
Schools don't have a key money/deposit fund, at least in my province. Instead they pay more monthly with no deposit (such as 0 deposit 400k monthly, instead of 10m deposit 300k monthly).
Landlords often accept because there's no risk that the schools won't pay up or disappear on them, and are likely to renew the lease year after year.

And yeah, EPIK has nothing to do with teachers once they finish orientation and are placed in schools. They're just a recruiter/placement/orientation service.

The national government via EPIK gives them the 500k.  It is suppose t be for housing.  The more honest education offices have given it straight to the teachers.  The others who nickle and dime everything are keeping it and using elsewhere for something it is not intended. 

It is true schools don't pay deposits.  Whatever place they can get up to 400 or 500k a month is what you get.  Usually an older dumpier place where the key money wouldn't be that much anyways or non existent.  Of course some teachers can get a nice place, but not often (at least in the public school).  You usually have to be willing to pay your own deposit and collect the rent subsidy.