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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #140 on: April 13, 2023, 08:48:14 pm »
Ding ding ding!

I think it's hilarious that you think you'd be boss of anything given your complete inability to anticipate problems and to formulate realistic solutions. You know who is getting fired at their job? It is NOT Employee A who points out how Employee B's are completely unrealistic magic wand ideas, while Employee B responds with throwing a temper tantrum and not addressing in any specific manner the concern raised by Employee A.
As usual, wrong. It's the do-nothing know it all (you) who gets fired. Seen it happen plenty of times.



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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #141 on: April 13, 2023, 08:51:04 pm »
I don't think Brits etc are taught that the States are a horrible country.
I've gone to public school in 2 different countries, and when we were actually learning about the US, it was more or less mostly positive things.

 It's more that Americans are taught that Brits are taught that the States are a horrible country. Trumping up adversity -- real or otherwise -- is a great way to pump up national unity.

Also, cancer survival rates differ drastically depending on the sort.
To show how these stats differ from country to country:

At 88.6%, it looks like the US *does* in fact have one of the world's highest breast cancer survival rates. Pretty cool.
At 57.8%, South Korea has the highest stomach cancer survival rate (the US being at 29.1%).

As for all cancers together, the ten countries with the overall highest survival rates are as follows:

1. Australia – 1,849.8 survivors per 100k people
2. New Zealand – 1,686.8 survivors per 100k people
3. Ireland – 1,240.5 survivors per 100k people
4. United States of America – 1,195.7 survivors per 100k people
5. Canada – 1,148.3 survivors per 100k people
6. Norway – 1,120.3 survivors per 100k people
7. Netherlands – 1,103.4 survivors per 100k people
8. Switzerland – 1,102.9 survivors per 100k people
9. Belgium – 1,076 survivors per 100k people
10. Denmark – 1,068.9 survivors per 100k people

https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/cancer-survival-rates-by-country/#highest-cancer-survival-rate-by-country
Note: This data is collected by an American stat company to distribute to insurance companies so, while I can't find actual dates, I assume that the data is recent and relatively accurate.
US insurance companies really push mammograms. They may even be required under the ACA.


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #142 on: April 14, 2023, 05:24:39 am »
These odds are still pretty scary. Like 1-2%?

Scary

Still seems like a death sentence.

That appears to be survivors per capita of the population per year... meaning the more people get cancer in the first place, the more survivors there'll be. Why is Australia number one? More sunburn and/or proximity to coal and/or other factors?

Check out survival rates of common cancers:

The United States wins every category except for stomach. Way more screening for that in Korea compared to other countries meaning catching it in the early stages before it spreads. Korea has a bigger problem with per capita stomach cancer cases than do other countries.

Breast:
USA: 88.6
Australia: 86.2
Canada: 85.8
New Zealand: 83.7
South Korea: 82.7
UK: 81.1
Ireland: 80

Stomach:
South Korea: 57.9
USA: 29.1
Australia: 27.9
New Zealand: 26.7
Canada: 24.8
Ireland: 22.7
UK: 18.5

Lung:
USA: 18.7
South Korea: 18.5
Canada: 17.3
Australia: 15
Ireland: 12.9
New Zealand: 12.4
UK: 9.6

Prostrate:
USA: 97.2
Canada: 91.7
New Zealand: 88.7
Australia: 88.5
Ireland: 88.4
UK: 83.2
South Korea: 82.2


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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #143 on: April 14, 2023, 07:45:25 am »
Yeah, the source Iisted was the number of cancer survivors as a portion of the general population, not as a portion of those who get cancer -- I don't think it's misleading, as prevention is as important as treatment, although in retrospect I probably should've made that more clear.


Check out survival rates of common cancers:

The United States wins every category except for stomach...
Interesting because most sources have very different rankings for cancer survival rates (among those who have cancer).
I suspect that your particular source is leaving out a *lot* of countries for some inexplicable reason, or are using a non-standard methodology (ie 1 year survival rates etc).

The USA does very well with cancer treatment (top 5 in general cancer survival rate in most rankings I've skimmed through), but it's pretty unlikely for any country -- including the US -- to place first in more than one or two rankings for specific cancers).

When looking at survival rates among those that get cancer (rather than general pop), the global ranking breakdown looks like so:
Breast cancer: #2 (88.6%)
Stomach cancer #15 (29.1%)
Lung cancer #6 (18.7)
Prostate cancer #8 (97.2)

Here's the source I'm looking at:
https://wisevoter.com/country-rankings/cancer-survival-rates-by-country/#united-states-of-america
It's sources are listed on the site.

I know there are different numbers out there, but these seem to be the most quoted, from what I can tell.
« Last Edit: April 14, 2023, 07:55:01 am by Kyndo »


Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #144 on: April 14, 2023, 10:47:16 am »
These odds are still pretty scary. Like 1-2%?

Scary

Still seems like a death sentence.
Yes, genius. The survival rate for cancer, even in the most developed countries is 1-2%. That sounds 100% plausible and you are right to think that. How dare anyone ever argue with you about anything.


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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #145 on: April 15, 2023, 08:49:40 am »

Hey, I have figured out how to kill two major birds with one stone!

Ship all the guns from 'merica over to the Ukraine. Then six-year-olds
in the USA will stop sawing their teachers in half with M60 machine guns
and Putin will be stopped in his Russky tracks with an infusion of good
old 'merican firepower.

Done and dusted.

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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #146 on: April 15, 2023, 10:06:23 am »
Hey, I have figured out how to kill two major birds with one stone!

Ship all the guns from 'merica over to the Ukraine. Then six-year-olds
in the USA will stop sawing their teachers in half with M60 machine guns
and Putin will be stopped in his Russky tracks with an infusion of good
old 'merican firepower.

Done and dusted.

Not bad, SPQR.
And if my thought-dreams could be seen
They’d probably put my head in a guillotine


Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #147 on: April 16, 2023, 03:40:08 pm »
I wonder if SPQR actually believes any of what he wrote. Normally, I'd say no, but in his case he actually might.


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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #148 on: April 16, 2023, 04:09:14 pm »
I wonder if SPQR actually believes any of what he wrote. Normally, I'd say no, but in his case he actually might.

Yeah, he's being serious.........
20 years teaching experience. CELTA, DELTA, MA TESOL, PhD slave  / on hold. Thank you.


  • SPQR
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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #149 on: April 17, 2023, 08:32:05 am »
Yeah, he's being serious.........

Of course I am. Because if there wasn't a convenient array of assault
weaponry available to the general public, mass shootings would come
to an abrupt end.

Instead of the headlines reading, "Eight killed and fourteen wounded in
America's 345th mass shooting this year", the headline would read
something like, "Ernst Vogelmeyer, of Buttmash Arkansas, was arrested
at the scene for the attempted assault of a coworker. After being overpowered
by two secretaries, he was relieved of his wife's rolling pin, the alleged
weapon in this case."

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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #150 on: April 17, 2023, 08:40:23 am »
Of course I am. Because if there wasn't a convenient array of assault
weaponry available to the general public, mass shootings would come
to an abrupt end.

Instead of the headlines reading, "Eight killed and fourteen wounded in
America's 345th mass shooting this year", the headline would read
something like, "Ernst Vogelmeyer, of Buttmash Arkansas, was arrested
at the scene for the attempted assault of a coworker. After being overpowered
by two secretaries, he was relieved of his wife's rolling pin, the alleged
weapon in this case."

i assume this last bit is just adding a bit of humor?

and Putin will be stopped in his Russky tracks with an infusion of good
old 'merican firepower.

Done and dusted.


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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #151 on: April 17, 2023, 09:07:42 am »

i assume this last bit is just adding a bit of humor?


Yes, an attempt at humor. The current reality is much more grim. However
the below news item would be unlikely if the only weapon available was a
rolling pin.

Four people killed and 28 injured in Alabama shooting at birthday party

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2023/apr/16/alabama-shooting-birthday-party-dadeville
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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #152 on: April 17, 2023, 12:32:47 pm »
Hey, I have figured out how to kill two major birds with one stone!

Ship all the guns from 'merica over to the Ukraine. Then six-year-olds
in the USA will stop sawing their teachers in half with M60 machine guns
and Putin will be stopped in his Russky tracks with an infusion of good
old 'merican firepower.

Done and dusted.
This person thinks that this can be done-
1A) Seizure of all guns outside of the law or 1B) Changing the laws in an extremely divided country by overturning one of the original Bills of Rights
2) That 6 year olds are regularly shooting people
3) That a 6 year old can carry and fire an M60 heavy machine gun
4) That M60s are easily obtainable
5) That handguns, semi-automatic rifles, and his mythical masses of M60s are somehow effective against Russian artillery, armor, drones, attack aircraft, etc.

Like as a joke...eh...you want at least some connection to reality. Still I do enjoy me a good goofball plan, so I'm not going to knock it too much.
« Last Edit: April 17, 2023, 12:36:57 pm by JonVoightCar »


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #153 on: April 18, 2023, 05:00:56 pm »
Old white men and guns appear to be a volatile mix.

Young woman gets a little lost and executes a turn in someone's driveway. Old man comes out firing and kills her.

https://wnyt.com/top-stories/news-conference-planned-in-deadly-washington-county-shooting/?fbclid=IwAR2WgqdTDzl2GuyfRe2f9Kj4oZZ73evNmcPHLVXMmQAD1knAML_pt91Da8c

Black boy knocks on the wrong door buy mistake and gets shot for an honest error--by an old white man.
https://www.ocregister.com/2023/04/17/ralph-yarl-teen-shot-in-kansas-city/

Better hope Google Maps is up to date.




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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #154 on: April 19, 2023, 08:00:36 am »
shooting at someone for pulling into your driveway is insane, what if theyre just trying to do a quick u-turn?


Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #155 on: April 19, 2023, 08:06:41 am »


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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #156 on: April 23, 2023, 08:37:04 pm »
"In reality, the region the Big Apple comprises most of is far and away the safest part of the U.S. mainland when it comes to gun violence, while the regions Florida and Texas belong to have per capita firearm death rates (homicides and suicides) three to four times higher than New York’s. On a regional basis it’s the southern swath of the country — in cities and rural areas alike — where the rate of deadly gun violence is most acute, regions where Republicans have dominated state governments for decades."

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/04/23/surprising-geography-of-gun-violence-00092413


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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #157 on: April 24, 2023, 10:12:40 am »
"In reality, the region the Big Apple comprises most of is far and away the safest part of the U.S. mainland when it comes to gun violence, while the regions Florida and Texas belong to have per capita firearm death rates (homicides and suicides) three to four times higher than New York’s. On a regional basis it’s the southern swath of the country — in cities and rural areas alike — where the rate of deadly gun violence is most acute, regions where Republicans have dominated state governments for decades."

https://www.politico.com/news/magazine/2023/04/23/surprising-geography-of-gun-violence-00092413

in fairness to florida, how many of those gun deaths are due to miami cocaine dealers?


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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #158 on: April 24, 2023, 09:02:40 pm »
in fairness to florida, how many of those gun deaths are due to miami cocaine dealers?
Big Miami Vice fan? The cocaine cowboys have been superseded by armed spring break revelers.


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Re: Right-wing gunmen
« Reply #159 on: April 30, 2023, 05:32:38 am »
Then six-year-olds in the USA will stop sawing their teachers in half with M60 machine guns

How many times has in American history has this happened?

Answer: Never.

Six year olds aren’t strong enough to handle big guns, or even any gun.

The singular event of a six year old shooting a teacher involved a pistol. Single shot. Teacher survived. Kid was exceptionally strong for his age. Had previously chocked a teacher until she couldn't breathe. Check out the number of views, likes, and shares on the tweet at the beginning of this video:

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sft2-vKYtGM

« Last Edit: April 30, 2023, 05:44:42 am by L I »