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Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« on: December 22, 2022, 12:32:25 pm »
I always go for minimum 2000cc or 2.0 liter engines.  But nowadays, I am seeing a lot of 1.3 and 1.4 turbo boost engines?  Anyone have any experience with them?  Are they okay or absolute trash?  Whenever I have a 2.0 liter engine it seems to have power.  My current diesel has it and my old lpg car had it.  Even a couple of foreigners who drove dinky cars got in my last car and were amazed at the power when I stepped on the gas pedal. 

I am not looking to get rid of my current car; I am just curious based on the ads I am seeing online with many newer cars going for this option.  It may save gas, but the lack of power is a downer I would think.  I'm no mechanic, I just play one on TV.  A lot of these Korean ads don't list the horsepower but a larger engine will definitely play a role.  I remember in college having this old beater.  A sable that was 3 liter engine and 6 cylinder.  Now that thing had power!  6 cylinder rare here except in the most expensive vehicles.

Personally I think you need power when stepping out into traffic from an intersection.  Give it a quick shot of power to avoid having the car coming from the other direction slamming on brakes or hitting you  when you pull out. 
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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #1 on: December 22, 2022, 12:37:29 pm »
Generally for men, the smaller the engine, the larger endowment one is given in the southern regions.

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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #2 on: December 22, 2022, 12:45:38 pm »
Generally for men, the smaller the engine, the larger endowment one is given in the southern regions.

Scooter delivery guys are something to behold at the jjimjilbang.

That I don't doubt.  Though getting behind one of those scooters on the road is a pain as they slow you down. 
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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #3 on: December 22, 2022, 12:56:53 pm »

I remember in college having this old beater.  A sable that was 3 liter engine and 6 cylinder.  Now that thing had power!  6 cylinder rare here except in the most expensive vehicles.


Rich kids and their cars in college. Must've been nice.  I had to walk or take the Montreal Metro. 

The Sable's cousin, the Taurus when it first came out had some limited edition models that had big power so that the Taurus would get a good reputation.  However, later models didn't have that same kick.  At least that was what my friend told me when he had one during our summer of being student painters (rip off).


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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #4 on: December 22, 2022, 12:59:49 pm »
Smaller engines with turbos don't last, too much strain on the engine.  A good 1600 cc engine is pretty much all you need. I had a Toyota 16V Twin Cam in SA and that thing went like a rocket, it was a beautiful flexible engine meaning you could put it in 5th gear (manual transmission, 1600 is a little small for an automatic) at about 20 Km/h and floor it and it would pull off smoothly, no stuttering. So for manual transmission, that sort of engine is just fine, lasts forever, but for an automatic, I would definitely go for a 2 litre.
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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #5 on: December 22, 2022, 12:59:54 pm »
Rich kids and their cars in college. Must've been nice.  I had to walk or take the Montreal Metro. 

The Sable's cousin, the Taurus when it first came out had some limited edition models that had big power so that the Taurus would get a good reputation.  However, later models didn't have that same kick.  At least that was what my friend told me when he had one during our summer of being student painters (rip off).

Out in the maritimes no Metro and terrible public bus service.  Had to drive no choice.  Only my later college years and quickly fell apart afterwards.  Relatives handed me down old cars for dirt cheap.  Except for that I was dirt poor man. 
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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #6 on: December 22, 2022, 01:02:15 pm »
Smaller engines with turbos don't last, too much strain on the engine.  A good 1600 cc engine is pretty much all you need. I had a Toyota 16V Twin Cam in SA and that thing went like a rocket, it was a beautiful flexible engine meaning you could put it in 5th gear (manual transmission, 1600 is a little small for an automatic) at about 20 Km/h and floor it and it would pull off smoothly, no stuttering. So for manual transmission, that sort of engine is just fine, lasts forever, but for an automatic, I would definitely go for a 2 litre.

That's what I figured.  I had read it keeps some of the engines hot air and recycled it for some power.  But I wouldn't think it would be much good.  Seems to be a trend though in many newer cars.  It is a trend I want to avoid.  Since I drive automatics, I figured that 2000 cc or 2.0 liter engines would be the minimum I'd want. 
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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #7 on: December 22, 2022, 01:06:35 pm »
That's what I figured.  I had read it keeps some of the engines hot air and recycled it for some power.  But I wouldn't think it would be much good.  Seems to be a trend though in many newer cars.  It is a trend I want to avoid.  Since I drive automatics, I figured that 2000 cc or 2.0 liter engines would be the minimum I'd want. 

Basically a turbo forces hot air into the engine but it puts tremendous strain on that size engine, heck even on bigger engines it does. Turbos are for those who have plenty of bucks and can replace their cars regularly. My first Toyota, 16V twin cam had 500,000 km on the clock when I left SA and it was still going like a new car.  Wonderful engine.
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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #8 on: December 22, 2022, 01:09:30 pm »
Basically a turbo forces hot air into the engine but it puts tremendous strain on that size engine, heck even on bigger engines it does. Turbos are for those who have plenty of bucks and can replace their cars regularly. My first Toyota, 16V twin cam had 500,000 km on the clock when I left SA and it was still going like a new car.  Wonderful engine.

I wasn't sure of the effects but I was skeptical of it.  Seems many newer cars doing it to save money on gas but with weak power.
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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #9 on: December 22, 2022, 01:39:39 pm »
if you want a fast, powerful car,  don't buy deisel or LPG.  especially LPG. I have the 2.7L Tuscani V6 turbo.  they can be found very cheap since most people are after the early model genesis coupe now.  Mine is a manual transmission and i have yet to see one of the genesis coupe's in a V6 manual.  Mine is a dream to drive, but new tires are way more expensive than I wanted to spend.

If you are only driving around town, then there is nothing faster than a 125 scooter.  skip to the front of all lights. your trip is half the time as a car for the same distance.



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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #10 on: December 22, 2022, 01:51:33 pm »
I think some folks confuse power with torque. Diesels other far more torque  than a petrol or LPG engines, especially when turbo charged. That said, I know of very few people that need to tow a boat or caravan in Korea so a 1.5 litre petrol engine would be perfectly adequate in Korea. Some Korean auto manufacturers do make exceptional small diesels though so why not take advantage of that.   

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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #11 on: December 22, 2022, 09:28:56 pm »
Basically a turbo forces hot air into the engine but it puts tremendous strain on that size engine, heck even on bigger engines it does. Turbos are for those who have plenty of bucks and can replace their cars regularly. My first Toyota, 16V twin cam had 500,000 km on the clock when I left SA and it was still going like a new car.  Wonderful engine.
That's not true of modern turbos. The problem with them is that most manufacturers recommend you use premium gas with them.


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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #12 on: December 23, 2022, 09:46:37 am »
if you want a fast, powerful car,  don't buy deisel or LPG.  especially LPG. I have the 2.7L Tuscani V6 turbo.  they can be found very cheap since most people are after the early model genesis coupe now.  Mine is a manual transmission and i have yet to see one of the genesis coupe's in a V6 manual.  Mine is a dream to drive, but new tires are way more expensive than I wanted to spend.

If you are only driving around town, then there is nothing faster than a 125 scooter.  skip to the front of all lights. your trip is half the time as a car for the same distance.



Scooters great for really small towns and rural areas.  In a bigger city not so much.  Get behind one of those and get annoyed as they fart along and have a long line of cars waiting behind them as they just drive really slow. 

Also, you get behind some of those 1.4 liters at a red light, it takes them forever to get going.  Pain in the &*^%!
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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #13 on: December 23, 2022, 10:03:57 am »
if you want a fast, powerful car,  don't buy deisel or LPG.  especially LPG. I have the 2.7L Tuscani V6 turbo.  they can be found very cheap since most people are after the early model genesis coupe now.  Mine is a manual transmission and i have yet to see one of the genesis coupe's in a V6 manual.  Mine is a dream to drive, but new tires are way more expensive than I wanted to spend.

If you are only driving around town, then there is nothing faster than a 125 scooter.  skip to the front of all lights. your trip is half the time as a car for the same distance.



Seems like many of the older cars especially prior to 2020 have larger engines and many car companies are making them with smaller engines with these turbo boost nonsense from what I can tell.

I was just curious about it, but I am becoming convinced this eco turbo boost is no good. 

My cousin in Canada was driving a Subaru and swears by them but even the newer ones are switching to this too.  Though their engines are still larger.  But seems they switched a 3.6 l engine for a 2.4 liter turbo. 
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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #14 on: December 23, 2022, 01:22:12 pm »
subaru's are fantastic.  I learned on my Dad's WRX when i was 16-17. amazing fun in the winter. however,  when something needs repairing under the hood, expect an insane bill.  the engines are horizontally opposed so everything is crammed in super tight. just to replace sparkkplugs becomes a hundreds of dollars job. they retain their value forever. chix diggit


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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #15 on: December 23, 2022, 01:25:02 pm »
subaru's are fantastic.  I learned on my Dad's WRX when i was 16-17. amazing fun in the winter. however,  when something needs repairing under the hood, expect an insane bill.  the engines are horizontally opposed so everything is crammed in super tight. just to replace sparkkplugs becomes a hundreds of dollars job. they retain their value forever. chix diggit

Ouch!  My cousin loves his.  Drives all over Alberta and BC with his.  But maybe he still has the 3.6 L engine. 

It's a shaggin wagon.

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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #16 on: December 24, 2022, 09:03:01 am »
subaru's are fantastic.  I learned on my Dad's WRX when i was 16-17. amazing fun in the winter. however,  when something needs repairing under the hood, expect an insane bill.  the engines are horizontally opposed so everything is crammed in super tight. just to replace sparkkplugs becomes a hundreds of dollars job. they retain their value forever. chix diggit
Nothing compared to a Porsche or BMW. But others are bad too; for a Ford F250, even though the size isnít an issue with this truck (at least not being too small), it doesnít mean it isnít one of the worst cars to work on. This is because, much like the 300ZX, you need to remove some parts before reaching the parts you need to get to. The part that needs removing? The entire cab from the frame! This alone will cost you many hours in labor from a mechanic, and unless you have hydraulic lifts in your garage, it is impossible for you to save any money on any DIY fixes.

Or the Mercedes Benz Grosser 600:Remember the dictator's car we mentioned in the beginning? The one with the $11,000 hydraulic window switch? Of all the hardest cars to work on, this one is widely regarded as the most difficult of them all! There isnít a single component in the car that relies on electricity to run it. Itís all hydraulic. Everything. The seats, windows, trunk, sunroof, and even doors are all hydraulically controlled. The leading authority on these cars ó Karl Middelhauve ó admits this is the most difficult car to work on among Mercedes Benz has ever made.


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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #17 on: December 24, 2022, 12:42:33 pm »
... for a Ford F250, even though the size isnít an issue with this truck (at least not being too small), it doesnít mean it isnít one of the worst cars to work on... you need to remove some parts before reaching the parts you need to get to. The part that needs removing? The entire cab from the frame! This alone will cost you many hours in labor from a mechanic,...
When i turned 19 i marched into a bank for a loan to buy a (used) car. My dad had warned me against Renault, saying you had to take the motor out to replace a sparkplug! (I dunno which model).

I was determined to get a car on my 19th birthday because my best friend got a Ford Mustang when he turned 16 (my students in awe at the fact that where I was from 16 year olds could drive by themselves, 14 year olds with an adult alongside, and alone at age 12 (as long as within one km of home: a farm equipment law).

I bought in 1988 a 4-year-old Toyota Corolla, a blue two-door "cute" (everyone said) small car, with a tiny stick-shift motor, with a reputation then for quality. I took two years to pay it off and four years later i only had paid for a motor-mount problem.

The Korando I've driven 100,000+ km on in Korea in the last 13 years has required only minor expenses (minus the turbo equipment function i abandoned in year 2 after two expensive repairs).

Today is Christmas Eve. Ten minutes from now I will pick up my vehicle with two new rear end tires, the old spare and old right front tire were never replaced. Now, all four tires on the road are since 2017. (When i asked my mechanic last week how many new tires i needed, he said one, and i pointed at the spare he had rotated out before, and then he said two, so we'll dump those two, rotate into spare one, and add two new today. Excuse me. I gotta go get it.

Merry Christmas! :) Drive safely. And choose to not drive in inclement weather.
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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #18 on: December 25, 2022, 08:43:03 am »
A friend drove a Turbo-powered granny-looking four-door car. We laughed at it until we were taken for a ride. Wow! The jets on that thing.

Flash forward to 2009 and i buy a Korando with only 16,000 km on it (must've spent most of its 3 years of existence in the car lot). I didn't realize it had turbo until a few days of driving it. I used it only driving up steep hills: to be able to go the speed limit uphill is exhilarating - and not so dangerous because as soon as you take your foot off the pedal, the incline decelerates the vehicle quickly.

But after 6 months the turbo broke and then a few months later broke again. And it was expensive! 600,000 won. So the 3rd time it broke i decided that fun function wasn't needed and have been relying solely on the powerful enough basic Mercedes-Benz engine under the hood ever since.

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Re: Just curious what the minimum acceptable engine is for a car.
« Reply #19 on: December 26, 2022, 08:24:06 am »
1.6L turbocharged more than does the job. If diesel, youíll fill up your tank for less and less frequently.

3L will give you insane torque and accelerationÖwhich you will fcuking feel in your guts (Kia K7, Hyundai Genesis). Fun drives, but fuel tanks not so fun on the wallet.