On facebook there is a group for finding substitutes. Usually a person searching for a substitute will post needed days and will post pay rates. Nearly every single comment on every post is about the pay rate discrepancies. In most cases, the substitute will offer something like 110,000 won to 150,000 won for the day (something like 1:00 pm - 9:00 pm). Anyways, most posts will average out to something like 14K - 20K per hour. Comments on every posts are about how the pay rate is ridiculous and should be at the bare minimum 30K an hour. (which I totally agree with, why wouldn't you want higher pay) I asked myself, why the gap between both the employer and employee. Check my basic math, I could be missing something.

On average (of course some are higher or lower) Let's assume an average Native English Teacher at a hagwon, EPIK, private, uni whatever... makes 2.5 million after taxes or 3.0 million after taxes. (people who have been here longer obviously makes more, If I were to pick a random NET and ask them their salary, I assume their salary would most likely be somewhere between 2.2 - 3.2)

2,500,000 won per month after taxes divided by 160 work hours per month = 15,625 won per hour.

3,000,000 won per month after taxes divided by 160 work hours per month = 18,750 won per hour.

*8 working hours per day multiply 5 days a week = 40 hours per week. 4 weeks in a month, 40 hours per week times 4 weeks per month = 160 hours a month.

If people were paid the suggested amount of at least 30K per hour after taxes.

30,000 won per hour times 160 work hours per month = 4,800,000 won per month

40,000 won per hour times 160 work hours per month = 6,400,000 won per month

I am not sure how the substituting works in Korea, I have never done it, but I am assuming the NET teacher or the Hagwon or whoever owner will pay the substitute teacher. I don't think the person paying the substitute will want to pay more than the pay rate the original NET teacher is making.

Are the substitute teacher's that are asking for higher pay per hour equating the substitute gig as a tutor gig? If so what are the reasons?

Are people making 30K and above per hour after taxes at their normal NET job? If so where and I want in.

What am I missing? I am probably not going to respond to questions, all comments even nasty ones are welcomed, I just want to know what people think about this topic. Cheers.

I'm from the states with a masters in social studies education and I taught in the Philadelphia school district for 2 years before coming to Korea. I substituted for 6 months before I got a contract offer and the pay was shit, like 80 bucks a day (2013). Salary was about 60K Dollars after taxes... yeah... another topic for another day. I am married with a kid, working at one of them schools. Also a gyopo, if that changes people's opinions about this post.

On average (of course some are higher or lower) Let's assume an average Native English Teacher at a hagwon, EPIK, private, uni whatever... makes 2.5 million after taxes or 3.0 million after taxes. (people who have been here longer obviously makes more, If I were to pick a random NET and ask them their salary, I assume their salary would most likely be somewhere between 2.2 - 3.2)

2,500,000 won per month after taxes divided by 160 work hours per month = 15,625 won per hour.

3,000,000 won per month after taxes divided by 160 work hours per month = 18,750 won per hour.

*8 working hours per day multiply 5 days a week = 40 hours per week. 4 weeks in a month, 40 hours per week times 4 weeks per month = 160 hours a month.

If people were paid the suggested amount of at least 30K per hour after taxes.

30,000 won per hour times 160 work hours per month = 4,800,000 won per month

40,000 won per hour times 160 work hours per month = 6,400,000 won per month

I am not sure how the substituting works in Korea, I have never done it, but I am assuming the NET teacher or the Hagwon or whoever owner will pay the substitute teacher. I don't think the person paying the substitute will want to pay more than the pay rate the original NET teacher is making.

**My thoughts**, the minimum pay rate of 30K or more is usually for tutoring gigs, which I do on the side on top of my day job. I understand if it is urgent and the employer is looking for someone asap, that they would pay more to cover the classes. Most of these substitute posts are usually for future dates, so urgency should be taken out of the discussion.**My Questions...**Are the substitute teacher's that are asking for higher pay per hour equating the substitute gig as a tutor gig? If so what are the reasons?

Are people making 30K and above per hour after taxes at their normal NET job? If so where and I want in.

What am I missing? I am probably not going to respond to questions, all comments even nasty ones are welcomed, I just want to know what people think about this topic. Cheers.

**Side notes...**I'm from the states with a masters in social studies education and I taught in the Philadelphia school district for 2 years before coming to Korea. I substituted for 6 months before I got a contract offer and the pay was shit, like 80 bucks a day (2013). Salary was about 60K Dollars after taxes... yeah... another topic for another day. I am married with a kid, working at one of them schools. Also a gyopo, if that changes people's opinions about this post.