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This or Next....
« on: September 23, 2022, 09:12:25 am »
We teachers and the director (Aussie) got into a fun spirited debate during lunch this past Wednesday (21st).

He said, "Don't forget, next Friday (23rd) is the start of our games/clubs classes."

Most of us thought he meant Friday 30th (our next Friday). But he meant Friday the 23rd (our this Friday).

Now, we all thought he should have said "This Friday". And we were confused.

So, what do you say? This or next???

Anyways, we all decided from now on the emails will all have the date on them!


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #1 on: September 23, 2022, 09:37:44 am »
this friday. he's weird for that


Re: This or Next....
« Reply #2 on: September 23, 2022, 09:39:55 am »
Maybe he was using Bogan speak??


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #3 on: September 23, 2022, 10:03:59 am »
We teachers and the director (Aussie) got into a fun spirited debate during lunch this past Wednesday (21st).

He said, "Don't forget, next Friday (23rd) is the start of our games/clubs classes."

Most of us thought he meant Friday 30th (our next Friday). But he meant Friday the 23rd (our this Friday).

Now, we all thought he should have said "This Friday". And we were confused.

So, what do you say? This or next???

Anyways, we all decided from now on the emails will all have the date on them!
English is f'd up on Wednesdays because which is closer, last weekend or next weekend? (There us no this weekend!)  Damn. It's clear on Mondays & Fridays.
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #4 on: September 23, 2022, 12:37:10 pm »
English is f'd up on Wednesdays because which is closer, last weekend or next weekend? (There us no this weekend!)  Damn. It's clear on Mondays & Fridays.

"This weekend" refers to the upcoming weekend.  When it's behind you, you say "this past weekend." 


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #5 on: September 23, 2022, 12:55:15 pm »
"This weekend" refers to the upcoming weekend.  When it's behind you, you say "this past weekend." 

Yeah, our boss uses it the other way. It was Wednesday and he said next weekend meaning the Saturday and Sunday coming up in 3 and 4 days. Weird. I had the same debate with my old boss, who was an Aussie too.

He would refer to next weekend as weekend week. Like he would use, Friday week when I would say a week from Friday.


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #6 on: September 23, 2022, 01:04:21 pm »
And these Aussies ran English schools?


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #7 on: September 23, 2022, 01:07:23 pm »
Again, English is f'd up regarding Wednesdays because THIS weekend is equidistant last and next. On Thursday, next weekend is 9 days away, on Tuesday this weekend is a couple of days past. On Wednesday we have A LIFETIME of misery.

I can't number how many times i have had to clarify on Wednesdays "This coming weekend, the next one" or.. "The following weekend, the one after this".

"This weekend's awesome" ... on Wednesday i have no idea what you mean.
« Last Edit: September 23, 2022, 01:10:27 pm by VanIslander »
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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #8 on: September 24, 2022, 09:59:49 am »
Again, English is f'd up regarding Wednesdays because THIS weekend is equidistant last and next. On Thursday, next weekend is 9 days away, on Tuesday this weekend is a couple of days past. On Wednesday we have A LIFETIME of misery.

I can't number how many times i have had to clarify on Wednesdays "This coming weekend, the next one" or.. "The following weekend, the one after this".

"This weekend's awesome" ... on Wednesday i have no idea what you mean.

Wait, what??? Are you being serious?
Why would anyone refer to the weekend that already passed as ''this weekend''? Whether it is Monday or Tuesday or whatever weekday.
A week is from Monday to Sunday. Within those 7 days, Saturday and Sunday are the weekend of that! week. With Monday, a new week starts with its own weekend. This is not even debatable. It's so basic.
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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #9 on: September 24, 2022, 10:11:32 am »
Do you say ‘this weekend’ or ‘next weekend’? It depends on your age

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/articles-reports/2021/09/16/do-you-say-weekend-or-next-weekend-it-depends-your

Splitting hairs about trivial details, but language ain't a science.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2022, 10:15:16 am by Adel »


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #10 on: September 24, 2022, 10:24:25 am »
This (week) Friday...Next (week) Friday


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #11 on: September 24, 2022, 10:26:10 am »
Or just the next one but who  cares? 
I guess it's important for people obsessed with testing for correct or incorrect with only discrete responses as options. I would that languages, and spoken language in particular,  are about negotiating meaning through interaction between speakers though. 
« Last Edit: September 24, 2022, 10:32:05 am by Adel »


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #12 on: September 24, 2022, 10:30:51 am »
"This weekend" refers to the upcoming weekend.  When it's behind you, you say "this past weekend." 
Never heard "this weekend" ON A TUESDAY referring to the future. Not once. Maybe it's an England or South African thing?

"What did you do this weekend?"
"I went skiing."
(The poster Lasio has apparently come from a different culture. He's not Canadian or American or... ? ... i guess Canada and America are big enough that regional differences may apply here. (If he isn't just being combative; *shrug*)

https://youtu.be/_bWpt7KqTW0

(Has any native English speaker said on Monday: "What did you do last weekend?" and meant yesterday and the day before? AN ESL ABSURDITY. Isn't it?... Isn't it?

Or maybe a Spade IS a Club instead of a Spade.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2022, 10:48:44 am by VanIslander »
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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2022, 10:51:22 am »
Or just the next one but who cares?
To English language teachers, yeah it matters. You get 900+ TOEIC score students and send students to the Ivy League by paying attention to the details.

This is about basic communication.
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #14 on: September 24, 2022, 10:55:57 am »
To English language teachers, yeah it matters. You get 900+ TOEIC score students and send students to the Ivy League by paying attention to the details.

This is about basic communication.

Dude, do you seriously think a high TOEIC score is necessarily  an accurate indication of communicative competence? 

Do you think the respondents in this article lacked communicative competence?

https://yougov.co.uk/topics/society/articles-reports/2021/09/16/do-you-say-weekend-or-next-weekend-it-depends-your

« Last Edit: September 24, 2022, 10:59:57 am by Adel »


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #15 on: September 24, 2022, 11:02:57 am »
Dude, you seriously think a high TOEIC score is necessarily  an accurate indication of communicative competence? 
It is required for several 1st year or 2nd year university majors in Korea (e.g., engineering in Gwangju); you need a 740 TOEIC school for multiple universities in Paris (mandated). The hagwon I am at has a rep for high TOEIC scores, drawing high level students. I love Wednesdays 8:00-9:30 because they all are full tilt geared to max their test results, so they participate incredibly. It is the jam.

Back in '03 to '05 on Geoje i taught several DSME shipbuilding inspectors TOEIC because if they got a high score they would get a raise in pay, be able to communicate with ship purchasers from Norway, Spain and Nigeria. Most of them succeeded. Surprise, surprise, the regularly late and constant jokster dude did not.
« Last Edit: September 24, 2022, 11:32:55 am by VanIslander »
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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #16 on: September 24, 2022, 01:10:35 pm »
One would normally use tenses or something that would indicate whether they are talking the past or the future. So it's relatively easy to eliminate any confusion.
''How WAS your weekend?''
''What's your PLAN for the weekend?''
''I'LL go camping this weekend''
''HOW ABOUT some sushi this weekend?''

Any of these can be used on any weekday and there shouldn't be any confusion which weekend they refer to.

"This weekend's awesome" ... on Wednesday i have no idea what you mean.

I have no idea either because that just doesn't make sense, since Wednesday is not part of the weekend. So why would it be referred to using simple present.
It's like asking someone who is at work: ''How's your trip?''
« Last Edit: September 24, 2022, 01:19:45 pm by Lazio »
''Jealous of those who make more, have a 2 bedroom apartment to live in, ride a GIANT mountain bike, and drive a car that gets them around?  Well, I can't help myself.  It's too bad you are jealous of me for you having less. I am at least able to say I am living better than most ESLers '' hangook77


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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #17 on: September 24, 2022, 02:48:34 pm »

One would normally use tenses or something that would indicate whether they are talking the past or the future. So it's relatively easy to eliminate any confusion.
''How WAS your weekend?''
''What's your PLAN for the weekend?''
''I'LL go camping this weekend''
''HOW ABOUT some sushi this weekend?''

Any of these can be used on any weekday and there shouldn't be any confusion which weekend they refer to.

I have no idea either because that just doesn't make sense, since Wednesday is not part of the weekend. So why would it be referred to using simple present.
It's like asking someone who is at work: ''How's your trip?''
Seriously?

This weekend is lit.
This weekend? Awesome!
This weekend is to die for.
This weekend rocks!
This weekend is great.
This weekend is full of stuff.
This weekend is busy (for me).
This weekend is .... (soooo many responses used by native speakers of English).
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


Re: This or Next....
« Reply #18 on: September 24, 2022, 03:02:46 pm »
How y'all doing this weekend?
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Re: This or Next....
« Reply #19 on: September 24, 2022, 03:06:49 pm »
How y'all doing this weekend?

How on earth am I supposed to know how I will be feeling three-and-a-half weekends from now? Ridiculous question.