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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #40 on: September 22, 2022, 02:11:18 pm »
I hate to break this to you, bruh, but that's how the rest of us react to your Prager U and John Stossel crap.

Equivalent to alien invasion scare stories? Not even close. Some posters watched and agreed with those videos.


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  • The Legend

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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #41 on: September 22, 2022, 03:08:01 pm »
Equivalent to alien invasion scare stories? Not even close. Some posters watched and agreed with those videos.

note that by "some posters" he means the most idiotic ones


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  • The Legend

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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #42 on: September 22, 2022, 03:19:49 pm »
Equivalent to alien invasion scare stories? Not even close. Some posters watched and agreed with those videos.

Well, I just meant that Prager U is a university, or John Stossel is a respected journo, about to the same extent that WWN is a newspaper.  It is an exaggeration, but still eye-rolling.

And what sticky says


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #43 on: September 22, 2022, 04:07:34 pm »
Prager U is utter dog sh*t. For the most middling of wits. Intellectual Takeout was another one. Debased crap for midwits.
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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #44 on: September 22, 2022, 04:10:38 pm »
One of those posters who agreed with PragerU and Stossel said he lives in a billion won apartment and spoke about having made twelve million a month. If heís telling the truth, and I believe he is, thatís an indication of above average intelligence.

Stossel had/has respect in some circles. Winner of nineteen Emmys.


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #45 on: September 22, 2022, 04:14:38 pm »
One of those posters who agreed with PragerU and Stossel said he lives in a billion won apartment and spoke about having made twelve million a month. If heís telling the truth, and I believe he is, thatís an indication of above average intelligence.

Stossel had/has respect in some circles. Winner of nineteen Emmys.

Never watched Stossel.

People can be midwits and still enjoy career advancement. Look at just about any work environment ever.
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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #46 on: September 22, 2022, 04:50:15 pm »
Well, I just meant that Prager U is a university
People would learn more from there than some fraudulent institution like Harvard or Yale or Princetown and their leftist radical indoctrination.
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  • Waygook Lord

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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #47 on: September 22, 2022, 06:28:26 pm »
unlike corporate lawyers and big bankers, we aren't making 6+ figures off the long hours lol
I knew (a very) few who were getting close to six figures, but they really had to work for it. There are or were some lucrative side gigs out there.





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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #48 on: September 22, 2022, 09:33:58 pm »
The average salary of a lawyer is approximately $148,910 a year

Investment bankers make $162,715 per year on average.


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #49 on: September 22, 2022, 09:46:46 pm »
The average salary of a lawyer is approximately $148,910 a year

Investment bankers make $162,715 per year on average.
1. That number is well in excess of what most teachers gtf about. Check the stats. More pay matters little after a base amount (waaay below that).
2. No child pines for such a career (unless a Daredevil or Perry Mason fan - sorry for the pre-Law & Order ref - my bad).
3. Your worth is not based on your salary (investment bankers certainly refuse to agree; it'd be odd for teachers to do likewise).
4. Most of us meet the conditions of our work visa. Yeah, there are still cowboys who buck the system and load up on privates. More power to them! But they ain't most of us.
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #50 on: September 23, 2022, 05:26:39 am »
1. That number is well in excess of what most teachers gtf about. Check the stats. More pay matters little after a base amount (waaay below that).
2. No child pines for such a career (unless a Daredevil or Perry Mason fan - sorry for the pre-Law & Order ref - my bad).
3. Your worth is not based on your salary (investment bankers certainly refuse to agree; it'd be odd for teachers to do likewise).
4. Most of us meet the conditions of our work visa. Yeah, there are still cowboys who buck the system and load up on privates. More power to them! But they ain't most of us.
An Ivy League professor makes upwards of $175.000.

So children whose parents are lawyers and bankers and such don't want to follow in their parents' footsteps?

It's great that you are doing your Thoreau at Walden Pond thing (without your mother doing your laundry I assume), but it's pretty tough to raise a family living like that.

Security in the material world is mostly defined by how much property one has. That fact of life is worth considering.


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #51 on: September 23, 2022, 07:19:32 am »
So children whose parents are lawyers and bankers and such don't want to follow in their parents' footsteps?
Some do. I assumed most of us want to march to the beat of their own path. But my dad was a heavy-smoking mechanical engineer who hunted and fished as hobbies, retired to farm fruit trees and construct buildings for charity. No following in those footsteps pour moi. Even less so if he had been a banker or lawyer (do you know a single human who pined to follow their parent in such?). keyboard warrior
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Security in the material world is mostly defined by how much property one has. That fact of life is worth considering.
Security buys you a secured plot in the ground and guaranteed wet eyelids on funeral day.

Maybe that's the story of the deported: they tried to beat the rules and ended up escorted closer to the same place.
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Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #52 on: September 23, 2022, 07:50:29 am »
keyboard warriorSecurity buys you a secured plot in the ground and guaranteed wet eyelids on funeral day.

Maybe that's the story of the deported: they tried to beat the rules and ended up escorted closer to the same place.

Slip of the tongue there old Vanny. What is the plan once you age out and Korea expels you then? You haven't got an F visa.


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #53 on: September 23, 2022, 07:51:24 am »
Even less so if he had been a banker or lawyer (do you know a single human who pined to follow their parent in such?). keyboard warriorSecurity buys you a

My dad followed his father into banking at CIBC.  Both had quite successful careers.  I know quite a few more people that followed a parent into law.  Not sure why one seems to have been more attractive than the other. 


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #54 on: September 23, 2022, 07:58:18 am »
What you wrote, I don't believe it.


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #55 on: September 23, 2022, 07:58:30 am »
Slip of the tongue there old Vanny. What is the plan once you age out and Korea expels you then? You haven't got an F visa.
Age out?

I worked with a 71-year-old South African teacher (on Jeju) and the director asked her to re-sign after a year but she said she had other things to do. Bye bye.
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #56 on: September 23, 2022, 08:06:38 am »
Yes, age out. Do you think hagwon directors will continue employing you into your 90s until one morning you die of old age in your hagwon provided bed? You might scoff but you should probably prepare a contingency, because without a better visa than the E-2 they won't let you remain here. Not doing a wind-up act here, genuinely curious


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #57 on: September 23, 2022, 08:06:46 am »
Slip of the tongue there old Vanny. What is the plan once you age out and Korea expels you then? You haven't got an F visa.

Van does have the advantage in that he doesn't exactly shoot for the stars with contract demands.  Each to their own, and if you're over twenty-five years old and have no problem with small town Korea, living IN the hakwan building and accepting a lower salary I think he'll be in demand.  As nutty as he can be here, his students must enjoy his class.  I imagine they can just sit back, pull out some gummy bears and listen to Van for forty minutes.  Probably their most stress-free class of the day, next to P.E.   


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #58 on: September 23, 2022, 08:30:13 am »
Van does have the advantage in that he doesn't exactly shoot for the stars with contract demands.  Each to their own, and if you're over twenty-five years old and have no problem with small town Korea, living IN the hakwan building and accepting a lower salary I think he'll be in demand.  As nutty as he can be here, his students must enjoy his class.
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I imagine they can just sit back, pull out some gummy bears and listen to Van for forty minutes.  Probably their most stress-free class of the day, next to P.E.
Hell no!

Not a fiber of my being you should doubt here: phones in the basket, not a single hat enters the classroom on head, if it did then re-entry (with added cultural explanation), no gum, candy or snacks; they are ONLY okay if everyone gets one, you can go to the toilet or drink water at any time but only one student may leave at a time (you know why).

And, with no gummy bears in hand, there is much more than listening going on. CELTA teaches you that students are not to listen for listening's sake but to PRODUCE (talk or write). Every single minute an English language teacher spends in the classroom is preparing students to speak English well and/or write English well. Full stop.

(My students in recent years have gotten 840, 890, 910, 920, 940 on TOEIC. My two TOEIC 8pm classes rock! Some of them i have taught for 5+ years. Two of them went to New York City after i helped them win contests. I have sent a student to the Ivy League (he went to UPenn) and another went to U. Kentucky for horse breeding (they have a horse racing history so it's a great program) but i gave him my old Canon A-1 (a metal standard) and he came back two years later and said he changed majors: he is in Arts with photography as his focus, of nature, especially horses, and he thanked me for the camera that jump started his career. That was a damn good day. Not as good as seeing your child go to kindy. But i'll take it.)


Money is beside the point (unless you don't have enough to live, or if you obsess about a target number).

I grew up in a town of 5,000 people on Vancouver Island (VanIslander) and my earliest memory off island was in Grade 4 when I went to the city in which i was born, Vancouver, and won the provincial chess championship, sending me to "York, Ontario" for the national finals. I can't say Toronto because we went from airport to hotel to conference hall to airport. It was 17 years later that I actually was in Toronto (i did school research for a year at the UofT, lived on the 2nd floor exactly across from Ernest Hemingway's house on Bathhurst street (just north of Bloor).

I teach to make a difference, not to collect coin.

End note: Having your students wait in the hallway not only buys you a few minutes of extra prep but signals them that EVERY SECOND in your room is class time: speak English, behave well, it is time to speak and write English!! (This is my 20th year here with that policy i had heard initially from a previous teacher on Dave's ESL Cafe back in '02)
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Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


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Re: Nearly got baited into deportation?
« Reply #59 on: September 23, 2022, 09:19:28 am »

It was 17 years later that I actually was in Toronto (i did school research for a year at the UofT, lived on the 2nd floor exactly across from Ernest Hemingway's house on Bathhurst street (just north of Bloor).


I was only being half serious, ok two thirds serious about your class.  I'm sure the kids have a good time.

Hemingway lived very briefly in Toronto, but it was on Bathurst just North of St. Clair, just to be a nitpicker.  However, his brief stay didn't stop the owners from changing the name of the building to The Hemingway.  Apparently, he hated Toronto.  A bit dry and boring for a guy like that, back in the Toronto the Good days.