one point/idea/lesson/message you'd wanna give every English language teacher

When the lesson is "finished"... review it next class, and the class thereafter, and a few classes thereafter.

2 minutes at the start of class, it takes little time, to SOLIDIFY knowledge.

Review should be a staple of every classroom.

Word Lottos.  Never plan again.  Students never get bored of them.  I do this and word searches almost exclusively.  Talk (or write LOL) about word power. 

Back when I was teaching on hainan island AKA the hawaii of china we didnt have any fancy equipment like smartbords so we had to make do with a chalk board like I did when I was a child growing up on vancouver island (named after james van couver. look it up, assuming the dang cancel culture didnt come for him), and I got pretty creative playing games such as hangman and guess who, so my message for all the new teachers out there is to make sure your students get enough vitamin d to ward off the corona virus and eat lots of blueberries if they're not too expensive (inflation's a b**** these days) and make sure you remind the next generation that IT AIN'T!!!

 Know all your students names.  If need be give them English names. Make floor charts of seating plans. Or even make a folder of photos with names. If your school lets you. Once you can call on that guy at the back and ask questions your entire class will fall into place.

 Use the material from Andrew Finch "Tell me more" and" Keep Talking."

If need be give them English names.

No

No

Totally agree. You should give them Old Kingdom Egyptian names like Ankhreshet, Wahtye, and Sneferu.

If need be give them English names.

If they want to have an English name, fine. If not, don't make them take one. And show them the basic f*cking human respect of learning their actual name (sorry for profanity here in the Teaching forum, but this is such a basic level of human respect).

If they want to have an English name, fine. If not, don't make them take one. And show them the basic f*cking human respect of learning their actual name (sorry for profanity here in the Teaching forum, but this is such a basic level of human respect).

they take English names as a way to familiarize themselves with English names.  little Min-Ju would always be asking what the frig a Greg is if not.  Taking English names is beneficial to their English Education.

they take English names as a way to familiarize themselves with English names. 

If it's their choice, fine.

If not, then whatever.

As far as benefit, I don't really see it. Please explain what this great benefit is. Whether they were named Ha-joon or David shouldn't make a lick of difference.

"English names" started as a thing to either forcefully rob people of their identity (African slaves), separate "assimilated" and "civilized" indigenous peoples from those that were deemed below sub-human, and for immigrants to move anonymously and not be discriminated against for it (Germans, Italians, etc.)

In EFL this was done in the past as a way to make things easier for the English teacher (God forbid they put in a modicum of effort, decency and courtesy and actually try to learn names) and be extension make things easier for "foreigners" (English-speaking Westerners) to understand things because it would be too difficult. Then some realized that was abjectly awful, but still stuck in a certain mindset insisted it was good for "thinking foreign" (because of course, THEY are the ones that need to adapt, not English speaking Westerners), which had a load of nonsense behind it. Only those who did it basically as "Hey lets just have fun and transport ourselves"  or "making new names is fun" types weren't asses about it (though those on the other end would scream 'cultural appropriation' or something if it was English-speakers adapting non-English names in foreign language classes.)

Now, thankfully, people are pushing back on the one hand (i.e. black Americans using African-names/inventive names). Unfortunately some types (including some posters on this site) still discriminate based on those names. Sadly, their backwards and bigoted attitudes seem to be stuck. Fortunately their generation is slowly easing its way out and their primitive attitudes will be a thing of the past. Likewise, more and more immigrants understand that they don't have to change their name to make things easier for other people, that they are not the inferior. Likewise, we are seeing many improvements in courtesy and understanding (although one would say this is a bare-minimum level of respect) where many realize this whole "change your name" thing is ridiculous and insulting and also aren't so mentally deficient as to be unable to handle names that are culturally unfamiliar to them.

Hopefully one day the entire ESL community will reach the point of universal understanding on this. But for now, we still have some types who are dinosaurs of a different era.

As far as benefit, I don't really see it. Please explain what this great benefit is. Whether they were named Ha-joon or David shouldn't make a lick of difference.

I've told you the main benefit before. Koreans and others take on English names because they don't want to have the burden of educating every Westerner they come into contact with about Korean linguistics and cultural naming conventions.  Some people just want to get on with their day. A few days ago I sent a package. The system would only accept Chinese names. I gave a three-syllable transliteration and carried on with my life. I sure as s*** didn't go on any forum and write an essay about it.

If it's their choice, fine.

If not, then whatever.

Hopefully one day the entire ESL community will reach the point of universal understanding on this. But for now, we still have some types who are dinosaurs of a different era.

https://www.waygook.org/index.php?topic=126429.0

Only one person in this poll makes their students take an English name.

If it's their choice, fine.

If not, then whatever.

As far as benefit, I don't really see it. Please explain what this great benefit is. Whether they were named Ha-joon or David shouldn't make a lick of difference.

"English names" started as a thing to either forcefully rob people of their identity (African slaves), separate "assimilated" and "civilized" indigenous peoples from those that were deemed below sub-human, and for immigrants to move anonymously and not be discriminated against for it (Germans, Italians, etc.)

In EFL this was done in the past as a way to make things easier for the English teacher (God forbid they put in a modicum of effort, decency and courtesy and actually try to learn names) and be extension make things easier for "foreigners" (English-speaking Westerners) to understand things because it would be too difficult. Then some realized that was abjectly awful, but still stuck in a certain mindset insisted it was good for "thinking foreign" (because of course, THEY are the ones that need to adapt, not English speaking Westerners), which had a load of nonsense behind it. Only those who did it basically as "Hey lets just have fun and transport ourselves"  or "making new names is fun" types weren't asses about it (though those on the other end would scream 'cultural appropriation' or something if it was English-speakers adapting non-English names in foreign language classes.)

Now, thankfully, people are pushing back on the one hand (i.e. black Americans using African-names/inventive names). Unfortunately some types (including some posters on this site) still discriminate based on those names. Sadly, their backwards and bigoted attitudes seem to be stuck. Fortunately their generation is slowly easing its way out and their primitive attitudes will be a thing of the past. Likewise, more and more immigrants understand that they don't have to change their name to make things easier for other people, that they are not the inferior. Likewise, we are seeing many improvements in courtesy and understanding (although one would say this is a bare-minimum level of respect) where many realize this whole "change your name" thing is ridiculous and insulting and also aren't so mentally deficient as to be unable to handle names that are culturally unfamiliar to them.

Hopefully one day the entire ESL community will reach the point of universal understanding on this. But for now, we still have some types who are dinosaurs of a different era.

Exactly, yer average Mid-West type uses dumb English names because they ain't that bright. They butcher the pronunciation of everything even though they think they don't have an accent.

Then the students take the mickey by choosing names like Chortle or Guffaw. "We'll start on page 7 today, Chortle," or "Sorry, I don't quite understand, Guffaw."

There are benefits to giving students English names. It helps start their own pronunciation abilities. It gives them an English identity in their English classes. It helps the foreign teacher remember their names. Plus, from my experience, the students like it because it makes them feel more English, for want of a better word.