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  • SPQR
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1289

    • March 08, 2018, 07:04:54 pm
    • Sierra Leone
Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« on: June 28, 2022, 12:24:33 pm »

Korea has come a long way in becoming a global success and
moving toward being multicultural and cosmopolitan. Damn, when
I first arrived there were demonstrations against letting foreigners
in the country to teach English. However I think Korea is still Korean
regardless of the NETs and McDonald's. Some things just haven't
caught on here, though.

-Mexican food
-bread (I'm talking rye, Russian black bread, sour dough etc.)
-cigars (China is now the number two consumer of cigars)
-deli meats
-tampons
-Captain Crunch
-flat sausage


  • Rye
  • Expert Waygook

    • 651

    • March 20, 2022, 03:43:11 pm
    • A side street near Cheongju
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #1 on: June 28, 2022, 12:51:22 pm »
-Marmite  :smiley:
_Meat pies


  • SPQR
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1289

    • March 08, 2018, 07:04:54 pm
    • Sierra Leone
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #2 on: June 28, 2022, 01:02:15 pm »
-Marmite  :smiley:
_Meat pies


Please don't remind me of meat pies, Scotch pies, pork pies...



  • Savant
  • The Legend

    • 3376

    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #3 on: June 28, 2022, 01:07:51 pm »
-Marmite  :smiley:
_Meat pies


Emart, years ago, used to stock some frozen Aussie meat pies. Was happy days!


Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #4 on: June 28, 2022, 01:11:53 pm »
Korea has come a long way in becoming a global success and
moving toward being multicultural and cosmopolitan. Damn, when
I first arrived there were demonstrations against letting foreigners
in the country to teach English. However I think Korea is still Korean
regardless of the NETs and McDonald's. Some things just haven't
caught on here, though.
The narcissism and subtle bigotry in all of this is really remarkable.

- The belief of the OP that he is in a position to render judgment on a country and people's progress and should be the arbiter of such things
- The belief that progress should be measured in things OP enjoys and the implication that something is "wrong" because some of those things haven't caught on. The country exists for his pleasure.
- This statement: "However I think Korea is still Korean regardless of the NETs and McDonald's." 1) There's more to foreigners and interchange than NETs. 2) OMG, the unmitigated gall of Korea to still be Korean. What's wrong with them? How dare they!

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-Mexican food
-bread (I'm talking rye, Russian black bread, sour dough etc.)
-cigars (China is now the number two consumer of cigars)
-deli meats
-tampons
-Captain Crunch
-flat sausage
And? Who gives a shit? They have zero obligation to like such things and you should have zero expectation or disappointment that they don't enjoy them.

"I'm going to travel and live halfway across the world in a completely different culture and be upset that people don't enjoy the same things I enjoyed back home."

Who thinks like that? What is the point of traveling? "I'm going to move to Korea and be upset with them for not liking Captain Diabetes+Mouth Shred in a Box" What an utterly selfish, childish view of the world.


Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #5 on: June 28, 2022, 01:13:15 pm »
Please don't remind me of meat pies, Scotch pies, pork pies...
You can always make your own..... You know what immigrants back home do instead of just whining and moaning that Americans haven't magically adopted their entire supermarket product list and dining preferences from India or Jamaica or China or wherever they're from....

But that would require effort and not externalizing blame.


  • Rye
  • Expert Waygook

    • 651

    • March 20, 2022, 03:43:11 pm
    • A side street near Cheongju
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #6 on: June 28, 2022, 01:13:30 pm »

-bread (I'm talking rye, Russian black bread, sour dough etc.)


This is one of the reasons I took up bread making...lack of variety.

There was a Russian bakery down the road some time back...owed by a Korean, staffed by Russians, with gangsterish looking Russians sitting around the tables all day. I saw some black rye as I was passing, stopped in and bought a loaf. That'll teach me...it was white bread with added molasses and god knows what else, to make it look like a heavy russian rye. I should of guessed when it nearly floated out of the bag, it was so light.

And Marti, You'd be happy to know that in fact I'm also a good pastry and meat pie maker, if indeed that comment was also aimed at me.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2022, 01:18:58 pm by Rye »


  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

    • 5524

    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
    • Near Busan
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #7 on: June 28, 2022, 01:15:23 pm »
Ketchup chips.

All dressed chips.

Dill pickle chips. 

Pal O mine chocolate bars.
Trolls on here are lame and need to get a life.


Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #8 on: June 28, 2022, 01:15:46 pm »
This is one of the reasons I took up bread making...lack of variety.

There was a Russian bakery down the road some time back...owed by a Korean, staffed by Russians, with gangsterish looking Russians sitting around the tables all day. I saw some black rye as I was passing, stopped in and bought a loaf. That'll teach me...it was white bread with added molasses and god knows what else, to make it look like a heavy russian rye. I should of guessed when it nearly floated out of the bag, it was so light.
Dongdaemun. Russian street. Try there.

Also, it might have been an Uzbek/Kazakh place and they might have different breads. Always translate it and also, check between Russian and Uzbek.


  • SPQR
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1289

    • March 08, 2018, 07:04:54 pm
    • Sierra Leone
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #9 on: June 28, 2022, 01:30:00 pm »
Ketchup chips.

All dressed chips.

Dill pickle chips. 

Pal O mine chocolate bars.

My local Lottemart has Lays now. Salt and Vinegar, Cheese and Onion. Onion and Sour Cream.

My one weakness.


  • Augustiner
  • Super Waygook

    • 445

    • December 06, 2021, 01:18:06 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #10 on: June 28, 2022, 01:35:13 pm »
The narcissism and subtle bigotry in all of this is really remarkable.

- The belief of the OP that he is in a position to render judgment on a country and people's progress and should be the arbiter of such things
- The belief that progress should be measured in things OP enjoys and the implication that something is "wrong" because some of those things haven't caught on. The country exists for his pleasure.
- This statement: "However I think Korea is still Korean regardless of the NETs and McDonald's." 1) There's more to foreigners and interchange than NETs. 2) OMG, the unmitigated gall of Korea to still be Korean. What's wrong with them? How dare they!
And? Who gives a shit? They have zero obligation to like such things and you should have zero expectation or disappointment that they don't enjoy them.

"I'm going to travel and live halfway across the world in a completely different culture and be upset that people don't enjoy the same things I enjoyed back home."

Who thinks like that? What is the point of traveling? "I'm going to move to Korea and be upset with them for not liking Captain Diabetes+Mouth Shred in a Box" What an utterly selfish, childish view of the world.

And just the other day Martino was telling us all that he carefully considers the feelings of posters before he responds, or some crock of sh*t.  This is the Martino that we expect.  Instantly triggered. 


Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #11 on: June 28, 2022, 01:40:34 pm »
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https://www.recipetineats.com/meat-pie-recipe/

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  • Augustiner
  • Super Waygook

    • 445

    • December 06, 2021, 01:18:06 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #12 on: June 28, 2022, 01:41:06 pm »
Emart, years ago, used to stock some frozen Aussie meat pies. Was happy days!

I remember those.  I think they were from NZ, but good regardless.  Then Costco had the Marie Callender chicken pot pies and there were those Jester's Aussie Meat Pie places that popped up.  There were at least four or five.  Then they all slowly disappeared.  Started to make me think twice about doubting the kid whose family owned Canucks telling me the story of how the authorities told them they couldn't sell French Canadian tortiere because pies in Korea had to be sweet.  Thought he was just making excuses for why it was on the menu, but never available.  But, now I wonder. 


  • D.L.Orean
  • Expert Waygook

    • 958

    • February 25, 2020, 09:34:41 am
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #13 on: June 28, 2022, 01:42:03 pm »
things you miss from back home that you wish you could find here

This is exactly the direction the thread would have gone had you not intervened
"I put quite a few pics online and got rated anywhere from 8.2 to 9.6 by lots of chicks. Of course, I can't claim to have the same looks now though Koreans are always saying "handsome" - hangook77


  • SPQR
  • Hero of Waygookistan

    • 1289

    • March 08, 2018, 07:04:54 pm
    • Sierra Leone
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #14 on: June 28, 2022, 01:43:04 pm »
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All it requires is a modicum of effort and some initial startup costs and you can be baking pies regularly.

BTW, you can also get ADHD medicine in Korea now.


Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #15 on: June 28, 2022, 01:44:22 pm »
BTW, you can also get ADHD medicine in Korea now.
BTW, you can get your meat pie you want with just a bit of effort.

But of course that would require effort and would put the agency back on you. Why actually do anything about it when you can just blame others and complain online?

Anyways, I tried to help you and show you how to go about getting something you want (just as I did with the deli meats) but just like with that, rather than accepting help, you just throw a temper tantrum and demonstrate your impotence at being unable to do anything for yourself.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2022, 01:51:21 pm by Mr.DeMartino »


Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #16 on: June 28, 2022, 01:56:23 pm »
Since this thread does have innocent underpinings, let me try and show OP an example of how to write this without being a bigot and a narcissist-

"There are things we all enjoy, both here and back home. Just as some threads have talked about things we'd miss from Korea if we were back home and wish they were there, what are some things from back home you wish were here?"

Readily available store-bought fresh salsa
Fish species back home that aren't readily available here (Walleye, Perch, etc.)
Jimmy John's and Qdoba
Bell's Beer (Surprised they haven't tried to crack the Korean market like other microbrews back home)

Notice the complete lack of evaluation or judgment of people/country/culture, the lack of expectations, the treating of things from back home as something to be appreciated, not expected, the lack of judgment on which things are better (beyond basic subjective taste), etc. That's how you write things if you aren't a bigot.
« Last Edit: June 28, 2022, 02:00:34 pm by Mr.DeMartino »


  • Augustiner
  • Super Waygook

    • 445

    • December 06, 2021, 01:18:06 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #17 on: June 28, 2022, 02:03:49 pm »
Since this thread does have innocent underpinings, let me try and show OP an example of how to write this without being a bigot and a narcissist-

"There are things we all enjoy, both here and back home. Just as some threads have talked about things we'd miss from Korea if we were back home and wish they were there, what are some things from back home you wish were here?"

Readily available store-bought fresh salsa
Fish species back home that aren't readily available here (Walleye, Perch, etc.)
Jimmy John's and Qdoba
Bell's Beer (Surprised they haven't tried to crack the Korean market like other microbrews back home)

Only someone who jumps to their tired old narrative needs the post to be kid gloved and spoon fed to them so they don't get triggered.  We all got the direction the OP was going in.  "Things I miss from back home".  It doesn't need to be written in a particular style just to please you.  Imagine travelling halfway around the world and going on a website into threads that don't even interest you and attacking the posters for not writing in the style you'd prefer.  This website is not designed to be your safe place Martino.  Stop trying to censor everyone.


  • Augustiner
  • Super Waygook

    • 445

    • December 06, 2021, 01:18:06 pm
    • Anyang
Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #18 on: June 28, 2022, 02:12:40 pm »
One of the things that annoys me is that when a product comes you get used to it, and then it disappears forever.  Like John Cook pastrami.  Overpriced and not the greatest, but still made for a nice change from ham.  Then it disappeared from Emart and could be found at the higher end Shinsegae grocery stores for a bit.  Now, I never find it.  Also, Emart used to carry the Tide pods.  I do my laundry at the laundromat and those were convenient and better than the powder.  Also never returned.  The good Colgate toothpastes are starting to show up at my local Emart, though.  Something disappears but then something else will turn up.  If they could just get Cheerios back at Costco. 


Re: Things that haven't caught on in Korea
« Reply #19 on: June 28, 2022, 02:17:47 pm »
This website is not designed to be your safe place Martino.  Stop trying to censor everyone.
I'm not trying to censor his speech, I'm simply criticizing it and showing a better alternative.

IF, this isn't a safe place as you say, then I am totally within my rights to criticize SPQR and call out how he words things. Or are you suggesting bigotry shouldn't be called out?

Quote
We all got the direction the OP was going in.  "Things I miss from back home".
But that's not what he wrote. His emphasis was that Korea was somehow not advanced or cosmopolitan enough for his liking because certain things hadn't caught on, hence the title and what he wrote. If he was talking about what he missed it would have had a completely different tone, something like-

"The other day I was sitting and eating some Corn Flight cereal when I really found myself missing Captain Crunch. It was my favorite cereal as a kid, and I'd give anything to get a box of it now. What foods do you miss from back home?"

That's how someone writes if they miss something. Someone who is a narcissistic bigot writes what OP wrote- Passive-aggressive resentment that the people place he lives in now don't like the same things he does.