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To the people arguing that riding a bike on the pavement ('sidewalk') is legal, you are wrong.


No.  You are wrong. You said bikes are supposed to be on the road. Clearly with all of the bike lanes that are built up alongside the sidewalk, they are supposed to be OFF the road in numerous places.  Those bike paths are everywhere in newish areas.  In older areas where there are no bike paths, there are also no sidewalks.  Everyone is sharing the road. 


Bus Driver: Stop is coming up.

SCCRREEECHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH HHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH H


I absolutely hate taking buses here!
Luckily, I can get away with using just the subway here in my city. Bus drivers just drive too crazy here!


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As I have said many times: In Korea unlike back home I - as a driver - am not scared of police cars (even if lights flashing), but I shake in my shoes at the sight of a taxi or bus.


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And don't get me started on dump trucks, long box haulers and ... did you see - a few years ago - the cement truck intersection tip-over attempt to avoid an aggressive scooter? Three women instantly perished and it blew up the Internet - then it disappeared; likewise ended up the guy who was in a wheelchair who, after everyone quickly passed him, angrily launched his chair at the elevator doors four times. He then plunged down the shaft to his death. The video went viral. The next day it was announced he died in an elevator "incident"  A week later, all references were SCRUBBED.

EDIT: I removed Seoul. Scrubbed. Irony if not acknowledged.
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And don't get me started on dump trucks, long box haulers and ... did you see - a few years ago - in Seoul, the cement truck intersection tip-over attempt to avoid an aggressive scooter? Three women instantly perished and it blew up the Internet - then it disappeared; likewise ended up the guy in Seoul who was in a wheelchair who, after everyone quickly passed him, angrily launched his chair at the elevator doors four times. He then plunged down the shaft to his death. The video went viral. The next day it was announced he died in an elevator "incident"  A week later, all references were SCRUBBED.

Neither of those incidents took place in Seoul.  I believe the elevator incident, which absolutely did not disappear from the internet, took place in Daejeon or Daegu.  The dump truck incident happened in Seosan. 


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The dump truck incident happened in Seosan. 
Seosan? ... I was off by 110 km.

Having spent 20 years in Gyeongsangnamdo & on Jeju, URBAN stories often are Seoul or not Seoul. I have been to Busan countless times, Daegu, Gwangju, but you cite SEOSAN? Google tells me its 110 km from Seoul. So I stand thereby corrected. The POINT remains. (Ain't trying to diss Seoul here). Metro Seoul at best.
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Seosan? ... I was off by 110 km.

Having spent 20 years in Gyeongsangnamdo & on Jeju, URBAN stories often are Seoul or not Seoul. I have been to Busan countless times, Daegu, Gwangju, but you cite SEOSAN? Google tells me its 110 km from Seoul. So I stand thereby corrected. The POINT remains. (Ain't trying to diss Seoul here). Metro Seoul at best.

How can you have been here 20 years and not know where Seosan is? Also how can you have been a journalist and still f-up the basic facts of a story so badly?

Also lol at the "I've been to Busan countless times" line, just pure mother-effing lol. Like wow, you've been here 20 years and have been to Busan a few times. Major flex.
oo oo ahh ahh


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And don't get me started on dump trucks, long box haulers and ... did you see - a few years ago - the cement truck intersection tip-over attempt to avoid an aggressive scooter? Three women instantly perished and it blew up the Internet - then it disappeared; likewise ended up the guy who was in a wheelchair who, after everyone quickly passed him, angrily launched his chair at the elevator doors four times. He then plunged down the shaft to his death. The video went viral. The next day it was announced he died in an elevator "incident"  A week later, all references were SCRUBBED.

EDIT: I removed Seoul. Scrubbed. Irony if not acknowledged.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WHo3xr1q-Wo

There are several videos of it on youtube. You just need to do a search.

It was a hideous incident. Cement mixer driver thought he could go through a red light, motorcyclist thought she owned the road.

Combination of two arrogant people and innocent bystanders get killed.


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How can you have been here 20 years and not know where Seosan is? Also how can you have been a journalist and still f-up the basic facts of a story so badly.
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1. I was a newspaper journalist 1994-2001.
2. I came to South Korea to teach for ONE year in 2002.
3. I caught the teaching bug.
4. I loved teaching English and living an expat life here in Geoje & Hadong (both in Gyeongsangnamdo far from Seoul), liking it so much that I re-signed, then re-signed, okay then went to get my CELTA to teach somewhere worldwide thereafter (Europe, Africa, Southeast Asia).
5. Then I went to Hadong to teach Monday to Thursday 4pm-750pm with 3 day weekends for 3 years at 2.6 mill. Easy peasy travel me - see!
6. Then my mom died. My dad died. My sis died. And I found myself alone in 2009 and only liking teaching.
7. I taught my best on Jeju 2009-2017.
8. I since 2017 remain in Geochang, back in my fav province, teaching three days a week here, two days an-hour away in Jinju because of COVID.
9. I know next to nothing about cities and towns near Seoul. I have driven there twice (in my beloved Korando I am only ridiculed about around here - does anyone else smile when they get into their vehicle, and think they are rock & rolling?) and express bused about a dozen times to the capital city. I have never lingered or explored its urban sprawl, its surrounding metro area (nor have i felt the journalistic need to double check the facts, I lying on a bed and one-finger texting these days rather than all-guns going newspaper reporting last century. I'm a has been in that dep't.)
10. G'day.
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(in my beloved Korando I am only ridiculed about around here - does anyone else smile when they get into their vehicle, and think they are rock & rolling?)

No, absolutely no! Well not since I was 15 or 16, and driving my Morris 1100 with my 8 track crackling through cheap speakers.


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Thank you.


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... driving my Morris 1100 with my 8 track crackling through cheap speakers.
That is an awsome throwback.

It may be your best quote ever. Get the tattoo ink ready.
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1. I was a newspaper journalist 1994-2001.
2. I came to South Korea to teach for ONE year in 2002.
3. I caught the teaching bug.
4. I loved teaching English and living an expat life here in Geoje & Hadong (both in Gyeongsangnamdo far from Seoul), liking it so much that I re-signed, then re-signed, okay then went to get my CELTA to teach somewhere worldwide thereafter (Europe, Africa, Southeast Asia).
5. Then I went to Hadong to teach Monday to Thursday 4pm-750pm with 3 day weekends for 3 years at 2.6 mill. Easy peasy travel me - see!
6. Then my mom died. My dad died. My sis died. And I found myself alone in 2009 and only liking teaching.
7. I taught my best on Jeju 2009-2017.
8. I since 2017 remain in Geochang, back in my fav province, teaching three days a week here, two days an-hour away in Jinju because of COVID.
9. I know next to nothing about cities and towns near Seoul. I have driven there twice (in my beloved Korando I am only ridiculed about around here - does anyone else smile when they get into their vehicle, and think they are rock & rolling?) and express bused about a dozen times to the capital city. I have never lingered or explored its urban sprawl, its surrounding metro area (nor have i felt the journalistic need to double check the facts, I lying on a bed and one-finger texting these days rather than all-guns going newspaper reporting last century. I'm a has been in that dep't.)
10. G'day.

What do points 1-8 have to do with his question?


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Seosan is NOT in the Seoul Metro Area!


Been a hot minute since I heard a good Korando story.
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Shout out to Mr. DeMartino... the first member. Thank you my son! ;)


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Seosan is NOT in the Seoul Metro Area!

Did someone say..... Seosan?

https://youtu.be/H0Oq_vUAWN8


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Cool.  Pictures please ....

doesnt look quite as cool as it sounds but here they are



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Seosan is 110 km from Seoul, as i mentioned. It ain't Seoul but it would certainly count as in the metro area of a city in America, Canada and probably a lot of other countries.
Did someone say..... Seosan?

https://youtu.be/H0Oq_vUAWN8
I watched it again, one of 300-odd people to do so.


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I watched it again, one of 300-odd people to do so.

Thanks!

Nick says that 2 people come in a week that say "Hey, I saw this Kevin guy's video."

Which BLOWS MY MIND.

Nick sends me 4 cans a month in the mail as thanks. Whenever I think about how small my channel is, in the grand scheme of YouTube, I realise that the people watching are local and passionate so I feel like it's....... Amplified? Pretty cool, regardless.


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doesnt look quite as cool as it sounds but here they are


:smiley: