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Yeah, that's what we've been saying.  Only an idiot wouldn't understand that ...
First you agreed that by definition subsistence farming didn't permit any the feeding of a city of ANY size.

Now you agree that subsistence farming can allow for what, at the time, were major settlements and what are historically referred to as cities.

Dude, you need to give up your obsession with me.


  • Mr C
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First you agreed that by definition subsistence farming didn't permit any the feeding of a city of ANY size.

Now you agree that subsistence farming can allow for what, at the time, were major settlements and what are historically referred to as cities.

Dude, you need to give up your obsession with me.
Sorry you write so poorly. You included subsistence farming with several other kinds of farming but actually conflated them.

Start with the bit about prior to the rise of cities... Prior (to us yokels who use the dictionary) means before. So yes, it was subsistence farming before the rise of cities. Then it changed. I agree.

I let some of it slide but I take it back since you’re being such a jerk.
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Marty sure loves “crap rotation”.


Sorry you write so poorly. You included subsistence farming with several other kinds of farming but actually conflated them.

Start with the bit about prior to the rise of cities... Prior (to us yokels who use the dictionary) means before. So yes, it was subsistence farming before the rise of cities. Then it changed. I agree.

I let some of it slide but I take it back since you’re being such a jerk.
I did not conflate subsistence farming with pre-industrial farming. I differentiated between the two. Pre-industrial farming could produce sizable cities, i.e. the biggest cities of Ancient Rome, the Medieval period, China, India, Mesoamerica, etc. Subsistence farming enabled the rise of the first city states in the various areas from which they sprang up. These cities would vary in size (I think the biggest were 50 or 100k but might be smaller and typically were so). Nowadays those would barely qualify as a "city". Many others wouldn't.

Anyways, dude, you seem to be way to concerned with every little thing I post here.


I get all nostalgic about the first dozen or so turns in Civ5, which were always my favourite (I'd often reset after the initial phase, because the rest is just grinding out a path already chosen. Boo.).
The ancient expansion era is great. The renaissance to industrial era where you race for tech and to get a leg up is great too. After that WWII-era is fun.

Then the game gets all stupid with Giant Death Robots and X-Com soldiers and whatever.


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martini's farm boy posts are an excellent example of the response one gets when yelling out to prevent a Korean walking into you.


martini's farm boy posts are an excellent example of the response one gets when yelling out to prevent a Korean walking into you.
Me and Kyndo seem to be having a perfectly reasonable discussion on agriculture and the rise of civilization, as well as what levels can support various levels of settlement.

Others seem interested in little more than turning this into an extension of their ongoing personal issues with me.


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Me and Kyndo seem to be having a perfectly reasonable discussion on agriculture and the rise of civilization, as well as what levels can support various levels of settlement.

Others seem interested in little more than turning this into an extension of their ongoing personal issues with me.

Playing your “Kyndo-got-me-out-of-jail-free” card again.


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Me and Kyndo seem to be having a perfectly reasonable discussion on agriculture and the rise of civilization, as well as what levels can support various levels of settlement.

Others seem interested in little more than turning this into an extension of their ongoing personal issues with me.

But it’s fine when you derail thread after thread for years?  Got it.


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Life in high sch... er... I mean, Cliqueville.
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Help others, especially animals. Say what you think, be considerate of others. Appreciate more than deprecate. Teach well, jump on teachable moments. Enjoy Korea as it is, without changing it. Dwell! Yet, at times, change your life for the better. "The most important [thing] is to have a good day."


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Marty's arguments bit like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KRPcssq-7Us


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Playing your “Kyndo-got-me-out-of-jail-free” card again.

Hello Mrs Pentherby


I really do live rent-free in some of ya'll's head.


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Jesus, I forgot I posted a comment here sometime last week or something and I come back and there are like 5 pages of people bitching about it lmao.

I'm sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr y.

Some of you need to seriously just chill out a little bit though,
I can't tell what are jokes / serious. If some of this shit you guys fight about is for real, for your health's sake, you need to just chill and log out for a bit.
Don't kid yourself, all heroes wear capes. // I don't get in shape. I bring the gym to my house and I throw it around.


Jesus, I forgot I posted a comment here sometime last week or something and I come back and there are like 5 pages of people bitching about it lmao.

I'm sorrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr y.

Some of you need to seriously just chill out a little bit though,
I can't tell what are jokes / serious. If some of this shit you guys fight about is for real, for your health's sake, you need to just chill and log out for a bit.

Don't worry. It really boils down to the fact that you should stop riding your bike on the pavement. Especially up around Incheon, where the cities are apparently nothing but bike lanes.


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Don't worry. It really boils down to the fact that you should stop riding your bike on the pavement. Especially up around Incheon, where the cities are apparently nothing but bike lanes.

Oh, they are like that around Incheon, too?  Good to know. 


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Don't worry. It really boils down to the fact that you should stop riding your bike on the pavement. Especially up around Incheon, where the cities are apparently nothing but bike lanes.

I'll just end this with a polite, you're correct good sir.  :wink:
Don't kid yourself, all heroes wear capes. // I don't get in shape. I bring the gym to my house and I throw it around.


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Oh, they are like that around Incheon, too?  Good to know.

Unfortunately not. I HAVE seen some places like Songdo with a lot of them though. However in my area, I'd say about 2-3% of the roads have a bike lane. Completely depends on the area.
Don't kid yourself, all heroes wear capes. // I don't get in shape. I bring the gym to my house and I throw it around.


Unfortunately not. I HAVE seen some places like Songdo with a lot of them though. However in my area, I'd say about 2-3% of the roads have a bike lane. Completely depends on the area.

Alright, at this point it's clear that Augustiner is just making it all up!


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Alright, at this point it's clear that Augustiner is just making it all up!

You're still worked up about this?  I was mocking your assertion about Incheon and bike lanes.  You didn't pick up on that?  I have no idea about Incheon and bike lanes.  Never lived there. 

Again, spend some time in the greater Gyeonggi do area.  Bike lanes are everywhere.  I travel through three cities everyday at minimum and they're all over.  Why does this upset you so much?  You were wrong.  Get over it and move on.