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Re: Coldplay - Higher Power: 10 locations in Seoul. Which have you been to?
« Reply #80 on: April 29, 2022, 01:14:49 pm »
Marty is the posting equivalent of a free jazz player playing to a deaf audience.

It looks like something is happening but ultimately it’s overly long without context and the audience are solely looking forward to the bathroom interval.
NGL...that was pretty funny.


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Re: Coldplay - Higher Power: 10 locations in Seoul. Which have you been to?
« Reply #81 on: April 29, 2022, 01:42:13 pm »
That's seven. Nowhere has "7" ever been used to describe "a host" by anyone who wasn't delusional/exaggerating. And sorry, but there's no big S.A. musicians getting popular airplay and outside of Lorde, no Kiwis, so really we're talking five. No "host" has ever been counted on one hand. And no 5/200 is not a host.

"A whole host of fans were at the signing." "So how many in total?" "Five"
"A host of rabbits invaded my lawn." "How many?" "Five." "Don't you mean a family?"

2. That 5-7 counts as a "host."
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I am giving you a chance to not fall into the DeMart trap by clearly stating your argument and its ridiculous points you are on the verge of committing yourself to defending. I would seriously recommend reconsidering whether you want to hang your hat on them.

The DMart trap?  Are you that delusional that you think that's a thing?  You're actually trying to make up your own usage of the term "host"  to avoid admitting you're wrong.  You take short man syndrome to a whole new level.  If I said I had a "host" of people coming over to my house tonight and I said there were going to be some lawyers, doctors, teachers, retail workers, policeman and strippers I could absolutely say I was having a "host" of people over.  That's just a fact DMart.  I didn't say five "people", so your stupid rabbits in the garden analogy can de dismissed immediately.  If I said this shop plays music from a "host" of countries it would NOT mean it plays seven songs.  You CANNOT, not may not or shouldn't, CANNOT say the term host doesn't apply because my guests are all from North America and speak English.  You cannot say a variety of genres of music do not come from a host of countries because there are only seven countries and they are all English speaking.  Do you get it now?  Do you understand how the term "host" works?  I hope so, although your ego won't let you admit it, I guess my teaching didn't end with sixth period today. 

The DMart trap?  NGL, that's pretty funny.   


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Re: Coldplay - Higher Power: 10 locations in Seoul. Which have you been to?
« Reply #82 on: April 29, 2022, 01:59:14 pm »
Dmart Trap? You mean like replaying the same repetitive beat over and over again until it bores people to death.


Re: Coldplay - Higher Power: 10 locations in Seoul. Which have you been to?
« Reply #83 on: April 29, 2022, 02:29:11 pm »
Meanwhile, I'm over here wondering what the hell a "host" of people is.


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Re: Coldplay - Higher Power: 10 locations in Seoul. Which have you been to?
« Reply #84 on: April 29, 2022, 02:35:09 pm »
Meanwhile, I'm over here wondering what the hell a "host" of people is.

I think it might be a gathering of more than 7 people. But I'm not entirely sure.


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Re: Coldplay - Higher Power: 10 locations in Seoul. Which have you been to?
« Reply #85 on: April 29, 2022, 02:40:12 pm »
Meanwhile, I'm over here wondering what the hell a "host" of people is.

Try variety as a synonym. 

As in this site's layout suffers from a variety of problems.  This site's layout suffers from a host of problems. 

Don't feel bad.  DMart didn't know how to use it either. 
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Re: Coldplay - Higher Power: 10 locations in Seoul. Which have you been to?
« Reply #86 on: April 30, 2022, 09:11:31 am »
  You're actually trying to make up your own usage of the term "host"  to avoid admitting you're wrong. 
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Do you understand how the term "host" works?
Dude, we're all English teachers. We teach vocabulary. If you're teaching your kids that 5-7 constitutes a host you are in error. You've taught the difference between "a few" "several" "some" "many" yes? A host is synonymous with multitude, horde, swarm and army.

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1: ARMY
the destruction of Pharaoh's host in that sea
— W. L. Sperry
2: a great number : MULTITUDE
a whole host of options
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/host

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Groups or formations
Host, an archaic military term for an army
Host, a great number; multitude
Cossack host, military formations of Eastern Europe
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Host

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If I said I had a "host" of people coming over to my house tonight and I said there were going to be some lawyers, doctors, teachers, retail workers, policeman and strippers I could absolutely say I was having a "host" of people over.
1) You already are saying significantly more than the number of countries (Essentially five, seven at most)
2) The implication based on the context of what you wrote is that this would be a significant number of people as in they wouldn't be coming in pairs like Noah's Ark, that in fact there would be all those professions (and likely others) and this would be a large party, minimum 20 and anywhere up to 200 or more.

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I didn't say five "people", so your stupid rabbits in the garden analogy can de dismissed immediately
No, you said five countries. Five is not a host.

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If I said this shop plays music from a "host" of countries it would NOT mean it plays seven songs
Thank goodness we're talking about the number of countries, not the number of songs.

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You CANNOT, not may not or shouldn't, CANNOT say the term host doesn't apply because my guests are all from North America and speak English.
Again, we're not talking about the number of guests, we're talking about the number and variety of countries.

A place in Canada would play music from a host of other countries

It's not my fault you misused the term "host" and it's not my fault your brain equates music from just the English-speaking countries as "diversity" when anyone with a lick of common sense knows 5-7 does not equal a host and that no, just the English-speaking countries is not a diverse sample of world music.
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Re: Coldplay - Higher Power: 10 locations in Seoul. Which have you been to?
« Reply #87 on: April 30, 2022, 12:32:45 pm »
I have never heard host for number of people....... Prob cuz it would get confused with THE host of... An event, party, TV show etc.

Not that I don't believe you, just that I'd never heard that before.


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Re: Coldplay - Higher Power: 10 locations in Seoul. Which have you been to?
« Reply #88 on: April 30, 2022, 02:32:20 pm »
I have never heard host for number of people....... Prob cuz it would get confused with THE host of... An event, party, TV show etc.

Not that I don't believe you, just that I'd never heard that before.

Marty is just trying to push his own interpretation as the sole general narrative i.e. his whole raison d'etre.

He employs a host of techniques: deflections, strawmen, false equivalencies, logical fallacies and general ignorance in his postings.


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Marty is just trying to push his own interpretation as the sole general narrative i.e. his whole raison d'etre.

He employs a host of techniques: deflections, strawmen, false equivalencies, logical fallacies and general ignorance in his postings.

Nah, dude, according to Marti's unpublished dictionary of Korean Hogwon English, that isn't the correct usage of 'host' because the number of things is only five. Five isn't a large enough number of things to count as a host. The number of things of things required to be considered a 'host' is exclusively a matter for Marti's judgement and by that I mean his judgement alone.   :rolleyes:


I have never heard host for number of people....... Prob cuz it would get confused with THE host of... An event, party, TV show etc.

Not that I don't believe you, just that I'd never heard that before.
Well, it is the kind of thing you hear more in works of history, religion, fantasy and science-fiction. I mean, it's there in the dictionary as a term for a multitude.

Put it this way, lets say take Augustine's (and apparently now Adel's and Savant's) claim at face value.

If you were throwing a party and the person inviting you said a host of people were going to be there and there were 5, would you feel mislead?

If you said you were bringing a host of reinforcements to the battle and you should up with 5, would the general in charge be happy with you or angry you mislead him?

If you said a host of raiders were storming a nearby city and there were only 5, would you been seen as someone who raised a good alarm or the boy who cried wolf?

If the media said a host of people were protesting and there were only 5, would you think that was an accurate portrayal?

You know what's coming next- These guys will rant and rave and insult me, but at no point will they be able to show that "a host" is used to describe such a small quantity.

Bear in mind that OP also tried to claim that because Kylie Minogue and Adele are played, that makes our music "diverse and international" back home.


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I wandered lonely as a cloud
That floats on high o'er vales and hills,
When all at once I saw a crowd,
A host, of golden daffodils;
Beside the lake, beneath the trees,
Fluttering and dancing in the breeze.

I guess It's unlikely Worsdworth would have been inspired to write a poem at the sight of five daffodils. On the other hand, He's talking about 'lonely' clouds in the middle of the wettest place in England, so you can't really rely on him for skilful numeracy.
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Without daring to question Marti's authority on everything under the sun,  I suggest using corpus data if one really gave a rats


https://netspeak.org/#q=host+of+...

Perhaps we could move the discussion on to how long is long piece of string. It certainly couldn't be 5 centimetres could it?
Could you help us out with this Marti?
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Marti is still arguing over host meaning what he wants it to mean for the sake of his argument?  That's hilarious and pathetic.  As I said Dmart I'm not even reading your responses on this anymore.  I just scrolled on by your lengthy screed above and had to laugh when I saw you were still making the same argument all to avoid admitting you're wrong.  To save you the time, I 'm not reading it and I'm done with that argument.  I've said my piece.  Save your energy.  You're arguing with yourself now.  I've moved on, comfortable in the knowledge you're wrong but admitting it is impossible due to your fragile ego.  But, knock yourself out if you want.  I have a whole host of other things I am going to do today. 


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Without daring to question Marti's authority on everything under the sun,  I suggest using corpus data if one really gave a rats


https://netspeak.org/#q=host+of+...

Perhaps we could move the discussion on to how long is long piece of string. It certainly couldn't be 5 centimetres could it?
Could you help us out with this Marti?

I believe Marty gave a host of examples for his rationale. By "host", I mean just FOUR.


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The host is the consecrated bread of the Eucharist; its Latin root, ‘hostia’, meaning a sacrificial victim, suggests a theological understanding of the Eucharist as the sacrifice of the Body of Christ.

I wonder is this argument has anything to do with someone having a God complex.


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The host is the consecrated bread of the Eucharist; its Latin root, ‘hostia’, meaning a sacrificial victim, suggests a theological understanding of the Eucharist as the sacrifice of the Body of Christ.

I wonder is this argument has anything to do with someone having a God complex.

The title does mention a higher power. 


Marti is still arguing over host meaning what he wants it to mean for the sake of his argument?  That's hilarious and pathetic.  As I said Dmart I'm not even reading your responses on this anymore.  I just scrolled on by your lengthy screed above and had to laugh when I saw you were still making the same argument all to avoid admitting you're wrong.  To save you the time, I 'm not reading it and I'm done with that argument.  I've said my piece.  Save your energy.  You're arguing with yourself now.  I've moved on, comfortable in the knowledge you're wrong but admitting it is impossible due to your fragile ego.  But, knock yourself out if you want.  I have a whole host of other things I am going to do today. 
Dude, LI was right. It's one thing to argue ad nauseam like we do. It's another to pull this "What? You're arguing still? I stopped caring and I'm ignoring you and won't bother with the points." That's just being an ass.

Especially when there's a dictionary citation that literally contradicts you.


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Dude, LI was right. It's one thing to argue ad nauseam like we do. It's another to pull this "What? You're arguing still? I stopped caring and I'm ignoring you and won't bother with the points." That's just being an ass.

Especially when there's a dictionary citation that literally contradicts you.

How many times have i cited the dictionary to you only to have you say something about how the dictionary doesn't matter, it's all about how people use words? 

I couldn't say, exactly, but it's a whole host of times.


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Dude, LI was right. It's one thing to argue ad nauseam like we do. It's another to pull this "What? You're arguing still? I stopped caring and I'm ignoring you and won't bother with the points." That's just being an ass.

Especially when there's a dictionary citation that literally contradicts you.

To be on the opposite side of an issue of you and LI doesn't make one wrong.  Why are you still trying to argue with me when I've already made it clear I don't consider you any kind of authority on the use of the word host, and I've moved on.  I didn't just start ignoring you on the issue. I kindly let you know I considered the matter closed.  Looks like with you continuing to argue and continuing to get mocked by a whole host of posters (hosters) you fell into the Augustiner trap.