Coldplay - Higher Power: 10 locations in Seoul. Which have you been to?

Quite like the way Ted Cruz made up this thing about how Disney is having Mickey Mouse "get together" with Goofy, then got spitting mad about the thing that came from inside his own head.

Marti, the fact that you're arguing like Ted Cruz should give you pause.

Dude did say a host of other countries.

A place in Canada would play music from a host of other countries. 

A host of other countries being...the UK, the USA, Canada and Australia. And no, some person from NZ or Norway or Germany recording an English album in France doesn't count anymore than some Kpop group member being from China. And no, some ethnic restaurant in Seattle doesn't count either anymore than some ethnic restaurant in Seoul counts.

I think people are overstating the extent of music diversity back home.

Finally, I am forced to note that it's kind of ironic that people here are harping about music diversity considering we've had past disputes over things such as basedcowboyshirt referencing a rapper, which apparently was against what English Teachers should do and unprofessional, multiple times people just flat out trashing mainstream rap and hip-hop, as well as mainstream pop, people constantly trashing K-pop and the hyper-rock focus in general of music shares here.

Are we really ones to cast stones at others for being closed-minded when it comes to music?

And that's before we get to the utter weirdness of moving to another country and being upset that the people in that country listen to different music while claiming you're open-minded and wanting to explore.

Like "I'm moving to Bolivia. They better play at least X% of English music and not Bolivian music or else this country and people suck." What kind of person thinks like that?

Nothing worth listening to has come out since Led Zeppelin IV.  Fact.

"When it comes down to making out, whenever possible, put on side one of Led Zeppelin IV. " Mike Damone

Dude did say a host of other countries.

A host of other countries being...the UK, the USA, Canada and Australia. And no, some person from NZ or Norway or Germany recording an English album in France doesn't count anymore than some Kpop group member being from China. And no, some ethnic restaurant in Seattle doesn't count either anymore than some ethnic restaurant in Seoul counts.

I think people are overstating the extent of music diversity back home.

Finally, I am forced to note that it's kind of ironic that people here are harping about music diversity considering we've had past disputes over things such as basedcowboyshirt referencing a rapper, which apparently was against what English Teachers should do and unprofessional, multiple times people just flat out trashing mainstream rap and hip-hop, as well as mainstream pop, people constantly trashing K-pop and the hyper-rock focus in general of music shares here.

Are we really ones to cast stones at others for being closed-minded when it comes to music?

And that's before we get to the utter weirdness of moving to another country and being upset that the people in that country listen to different music while claiming you're open-minded and wanting to explore.

Like "I'm moving to Bolivia. They better play at least X% of English music and not Bolivian music or else this country and people suck." What kind of person thinks like that?

What the hell are you talking about?  Yes, retail outlets, gyms and bars back home have always played music from a host of other countries.  It's just making you look even more like a petulant child that you can't acknowledge, as CO2 did, that you got it wrong with Hankook's statement.  And now you're doing you're usual thing of trying to muddy the waters and take things in a totally different direction.  You don't fool anyone. 

DeMartino: ""I'm moving to Bolivia. They better play at least X% of English music and not Bolivian music or else this country and people suck." What kind of person thinks like that?

As far as I can tell, the answer would be you.  No one else said it.   

This some messed up drivel right here. 

Quite like the way Ted Cruz made up this thing about how Disney is having Mickey Mouse "get together" with Goofy, then got spitting mad about the thing that came from inside his own head.

Marti, the fact that you're arguing like Ted Cruz should give you pause.

Well, Disney are a bunch of perverts getting a free ride for too long.  Why should a corporation be able to make it's own laws.  It's apparent Democrats have become the party of corporations screaming in a demonic rage when Disney's special status was stripped away.  Now they have to pay tax and have laws apply to them like everyone else.  Screw large corporations and their arrogant monopolistic attitudes. 

Well, Disney are a bunch of perverts

I'd like to hear more about this

wasn't nickelodeon the one that had that creepy producer (dan shneider)?

I'd like to hear more about this

I'm sure you would....

I'm sure you would....

What does this even mean?

What goes through your brain? I, for one, suspect there's not a lot going on between your ears. But recently you seem to be pre-occupied with "perverts" and "pedos"

He's probably referring to this kind of thing

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/538757-drag-queen-story-hour-disney/

What the hell are you talking about?  Yes, retail outlets, gyms and bars back home have always played music from a host of other countries.

Dude, no they haven't. They played English language music that 99.9% came from either U.S./Australia/Canada/UK OR some artist from some other country who came to America/UK to sing in English and record an American/UK album. Acting like nationality and not language is the key differential here is being willfully ignorant.

And no, outside of ethnic areas/ethnic restaurants, we aren't getting Mexican, Honduran, Guatemalan, Nicaraguan, Cuban, Dominican, Venezuelan, Colombian, Argentinian, Bolivian, Brazilian, Peruvian, Ecuadorean, Chilean, Uruguayan, Portuguese, Spanish, French, Belgian, Dutch, Swiss, Italian, German, Austrian, Danish, Norwegian, Swedish, Finnish, Polish, Croatian, Albanian, Slovenian, Slovakian, Czech, Hungarian, Serbian, Bosnian, Macedonian, Bulgarian, Romanian, Greek, Maltese, Estonian, Lithuanian, Latvian, Belarussian, Ukrainian, Russian, Georgian, Armenian, Azeri, Turkish, Syrian, Lebanese, Iraqi, Persian, Saudi, Emirati, Yemeni, etc. etc. etc. pop music blasting over the sound system at Wal-Mart, Target, Piggly-Wiggly, Macy's and Applebee's.

Sorry, but if you're seriously trying to suggest that's the case, then you're deluded. UK, USA, Canada, Ireland, Australia, NZ is not a "host" of other countries. That's like, several. And like, all but 1.8 of those countries are under the nominal control of the first. What's next? Claiming there's so much more musical diversity back home because you get music from New York AND California AND Texas AND Wisconsin- a HOST of states!

At the end of the day, there is far more non-Korean language music played in random general public places here and has been since 2008 than there is back home. Korean's are far more familiar on average with music than outside of the Korean language than the average American or Brit or Canadian is with music outside their language.

Well, Disney are a bunch of perverts getting a free ride for too long.  Why should a corporation be able to make it's own laws. 

Since the Florida government said they could, way back in 1967?

Notice how this hasn't been a problem until Disney decided to speak out on DeSantis's benighted, dangerous and stupid Don't Say Gay BS? 

And, they don't so much make their own laws as administer their own service and tax district.  Disney built and pays for its own fire department, police, sewage and roads.   

It's apparent Democrats have become the party of corporations screaming in a demonic rage when Disney's special status was stripped away.  Now they have to pay tax and have laws apply to them like everyone else.  Screw large corporations and their arrogant monopolistic attitudes. 

You have literally no earthly idea what you are talking about.  Disney through Reedy Creek has always paid every penny of the administration of the district itself.

Should the new law go into effect, about one billion dollars per year of those costs will be shifted to taxpayers of Orange and Osceola Counties.  Yeah, that's really striking a blow against large corporations, huh?

Yeah, I don't hear Adele and Kylie Minogue and think "Wow, the playlist is so diverse. A lot of international representation here."

It's Western, English-language pop music.

I just wish half the people here showed this same commitment to musical diversity with music from back home.

Really, what I think people are whining about is that Koreans aren't listening to music THEY like. If Korean stores were blasting the Mandarin, Japanese, Vietnamese, Uzbek, Kazakh and Thai equivalent of trot in every store, I don't think that would be satisfying to the people complaining. I also don't think it's about genre diversity because if they were blasting Reggaeton and gangsta rap and mumble rap and New Jack Swing and R&B and Gospel and maybe some Tejano, these people likely wouldn't be overjoyed. Seems this isn't about diversity at all.

Basically it seems the complaint is "Why aren't they playing more English language rock from the 1960s-1990s? We need diversity, damnit!!!"

But of course saying that makes one sound like an ass, so the cover of "different countries" or "different genres" is used.

Like, me personally I would love to walk into Zara and not knowing if bagpipe music or Hindi rap or Electro Swing or Opera or bluegrass or any other genre would be playing, but I suspect I'm in the minority.

Dude, no they haven't. They played English language music that 99.9% came from either U.S./Australia/Canada/UK OR some artist from some other country who came to America/UK to sing in English and record an American/UK album. Acting like nationality and not language is the key differential here is being willfully ignorant.

Those are other countries.  The issue was playing music from other countries.  You are trying to rebut my argument by saying they don't play music from other countries by listing a host of other countries they play music from, and saying "See, they don't play music from other countries."  English speaking countries include Canada, U.S., Ireland, U.K., South Africa, Australia and N.Z.  That is a HOST of countries.  Are you arguing that there is no difference in music that becomes popular from these countries because the language is English?  That would be astounding, but I'm guessing if anyone could make that ludicrous claim it would be you. We weren't talking about language.  Hangook said Korean music, as in music from Korea.  Are you really not getting that?  You are trying to change the issue to language from nationality to avoid admitting you were wrong. Grow up.  You try to claim you post so much because you like to argue, but you never really argue.  You just go off on rambling disconnected tirades because you are wrong.  And, I never usually read your posts when they are long.  I know from experience it's just going to be a bunch of dumb misdirection to avoid acknowledging your confusion.  So, whatever you wrote after what I quoted I didn't bother reading. 

Those are other countries.  The issue was playing music from other countries.  You are trying to rebut my argument by saying they don't play music from other countries by listing a host of other countries they play music from, and saying "See, they don't play music from other countries."  English speaking countries include Canada, U.S., Ireland, U.K., South Africa, Australia and N.Z.  That is a HOST of countries.  Are you arguing that there is no difference in music that becomes popular from these countries because the language is English?  That would be astounding, but I'm guessing if anyone could make that ludicrous claim it would be you. We weren't talking about language.  Hangook said Korean music, as in music from Korea.  Are you really not getting that?  You are trying to change the issue to language from nationality to avoid admitting you were wrong. Grow up.  You try to claim you post so much because you like to argue, but you never really argue.  You just go off on rambling disconnected tirades because you are wrong.  And, I never usually read your posts when they are long.  I know from experience it's just going to be a bunch of dumb misdirection to avoid acknowledging your confusion.  So, whatever you wrote after what I quoted I didn't bother reading. 

DEEE MARTINO will always jump up and down if he thinks anyone is even mildly critical of Korea.  I have praise for Korea in some areas, but also many areas of criticism too.  But, all he hears is the criticism. 

   
Basically it seems the complaint is "Why aren't they playing more English language rock from the 1960s-1990s? We need diversity, damnit!!!"   

I think you'll find the original comment was complaining about Oasis, which actually is English language rock from the 1960s-1990s. But carry on...

English speaking countries include Canada, U.S., Ireland, U.K., South Africa, Australia and N.Z.  That is a HOST of countries. 

That's seven. Nowhere has "7" ever been used to describe "a host" by anyone who wasn't delusional/exaggerating. And sorry, but there's no big S.A. musicians getting popular airplay and outside of Lorde, no Kiwis, so really we're talking five. No "host" has ever been counted on one hand. And no 5/200 is not a host.

"A whole host of fans were at the signing." "So how many in total?" "Five"
"A host of rabbits invaded my lawn." "How many?" "Five." "Don't you mean a family?"

Are you arguing that there is no difference in music that becomes popular from these countries because the language is English?

I'm arguing that the language factor makes this an apples to oranges comparison. There's also a 60+ year tradition of musical interchange.

You are trying to change the issue to language from nationality to avoid admitting you were wrong. Grow up.

Dude, you're being disingenuous if you're trying to make the claim of "international" by comparing English-language artists in English-speaking countries to Koreans listening to English-language music. It's apples and oranges and if you're trying to say they're equivalent you're just being ridiculous.

I'd like to point out that the two pillars of your argument are-
1. That comparing English-language music being played in Korea is an apples-to-apples comparison with English-language music from other countries being played in English-speaking countries.
2. That 5-7 counts as a "host."


I am giving you a chance to not fall into the DeMart trap by clearly stating your argument and its ridiculous points you are on the verge of committing yourself to defending. I would seriously recommend reconsidering whether you want to hang your hat on them.

I think you'll find the original comment was complaining about Oasis, which actually is English language rock from the 1960s-1990s. But carry on...

I think the issue with Oasis and Coldplay being played is neither the language, nor the genre, nor the time-period they are from, but the lack of "more", specifically other bands.

Basically it seems the complaint is "Why aren't they playing more English language rock from the 1960s-1990s? We need diversity, damnit!!!"

But yes, touche.

Marty is the posting equivalent of a free jazz player playing to a deaf audience.

It looks like something is happening but ultimately it’s overly long without context and the audience are solely looking forward to the bathroom interval.