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Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #400 on: April 06, 2022, 09:22:28 pm »

Sudden, unexpected rudeness from people you thought were friendly.

You can get this from some coworkers. They're sweet as pie to begin with then they suddenly shock you with their rudeness out of the blue.

It's like they're waiting for their moment to show you your place in the hierarchy. As a foreigner, they think you belong at the bottom. Korea hasn't changed that much in 20 years.



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Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #401 on: April 07, 2022, 07:44:46 am »
Guess I'm lucky: I haven't had to deal with that kind of stuff from my coworkers yet. I am solidly at the top of my own personal little hierarchy of 1.  :azn:

My biggest frustration in Korea is driving: I hate how the use of indicators is seen as entirely optional. Also, the parking drives me (pun) crazy. I have to remind myself that the fault, at least in part, lies in the lack of infrastructure, else there'd be a lot more keyed cars out there.  >:(
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Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #402 on: April 07, 2022, 09:41:27 am »
Sudden, unexpected rudeness from people you thought were friendly.

You can get this from some coworkers. They're sweet as pie to begin with then they suddenly shock you with their rudeness out of the blue.

It's like they're waiting for their moment to show you your place in the hierarchy. As a foreigner, they think you belong at the bottom. Korea hasn't changed that much in 20 years.

My first partner teacher had the face of an angel. First impressions are important, and my impression of her couldn't have been better. Mid-30s woman who was always friendly and smiling.  Fast forward to two months into the school year, as we are preparing for open classes. Head teacher is doing a meeting and my partner-teacher raises her hand. Out of nowhere she absolutely lays into one of the foreign women there. I'm talking exorcist looking facial animations here with teeth bared. The foreigner's crime? Apparently as they were preparing for open class she told her Korean partner teacher she would clean the room, yet failed to pick up the fire extinguisher and clean all the dust in and under it. Every foreign teacher in that room looked in absolute shock, but I remember the look on the Koreans, who seemed to just have normal look, as if this outburst was a common occurrence. Went from 0-100 in no time flat. Why didn't the Korean partner teacher just talk to the foreigner in private herself instead of having her attack dog do it in front of the school? We already know the answer to that question, don't we?

I will always remember the next day even more vividly. The foreign woman (who was really nice, I may add) came into school and as she walked by our class (which was right by the main door) she poked her head in, looked at the Korean teacher, and sweetly said "Good morning, teacher"  in an attempt to change the vibe between them. The Korean teacher looked at her with pure disdain and--I swear this to be true--showed her teeth and quietly snarled at her.

I had never seen anything like it before. Luckily, I've never seen anything quite so bad, since. But this was an interesting introduction to Korean partner teachers and work culture in Korea. Why people weren't fired and heads didn't roll, well, at the time I didn't know. Now I do.


Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #403 on: April 07, 2022, 10:29:36 am »
Where I lived drivers sped like crazy and would slam on their brakes right before a turn and then turn and then put their signal light on.

Oh yeah, every time you went to pass a car they'd hit their brakes. I  know they did this to slow down to make your pass easier but it's dangerous as hell and till I got used to it nearly caused a rear-ender a time or two.


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Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #404 on: April 07, 2022, 10:37:32 am »
Where I lived drivers sped like crazy and would slam on their brakes right before a turn and then turn and then put their signal light on.

Oh yeah, every time you went to pass a car they'd hit their brakes. I  know they did this to slow down to make your pass easier but it's dangerous as hell and till I got used to it nearly caused a rear-ender a time or two.
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Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #405 on: April 07, 2022, 10:43:30 am »
You should spend some time driving around Thailand. Ever watch YouTube vids? It is crazy!


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Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #406 on: April 07, 2022, 10:49:33 am »
I have, and on a scooter no less. Got into 2 accidents (both totally my fault). Scratched up my friend's leg pretty badly. She was not a happy camper.  :sad:
She's from Taiwan, another country where riding a scooter is an adventure, and making it to your thirties without scarred up legs means you have some serious good luck.


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Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #407 on: April 07, 2022, 12:55:15 pm »
I have, and on a scooter no less. Got into 2 accidents (both totally my fault). Scratched up my friend's leg pretty badly. She was not a happy camper.  :sad:
She's from Taiwan, another country where riding a scooter is an adventure, and making it to your thirties without scarred up legs means you have some serious good luck.

If you been here for ages, you should upgrade to a car.  Just a scooter as your transpo?  No wonder you don't mind the pay?  Ha ha. 


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Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #408 on: April 07, 2022, 01:09:41 pm »
If you been here for ages, you should upgrade to a car.  Just a scooter as your transpo?  No wonder you don't mind the pay?  Ha ha. 
That was in reference to driving while vacationing in Thailand with some friends.
Here in Korea I'm unfortunately forced to drive a car.  :sad:

Also, I'm not entirely certain that equating driving a scooter with low income is as valid as it used to be. I mean, yes, they're certainly cheaper, but they can also just be a lot more convenient depending on one's lifestyle.


Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #409 on: April 07, 2022, 03:57:13 pm »
Give me 2 wheels over 4 every time. Unless we're going grocery shopping or it's rainy season and I'm going to work.

It's New Year's next week so I have a week off with pay. Me, my wife and 5 others are heading off into the jungle. I just bought my wife a CRF 230. She's excited. 


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Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #410 on: April 07, 2022, 09:02:37 pm »
My first partner teacher had the face of an angel. First impressions are important, and my impression of her couldn't have been better. Mid-30s woman who was always friendly and smiling.  Fast forward to two months into the school year, as we are preparing for open classes. Head teacher is doing a meeting and my partner-teacher raises her hand. Out of nowhere she absolutely lays into one of the foreign women there. I'm talking exorcist looking facial animations here with teeth bared. The foreigner's crime? Apparently as they were preparing for open class she told her Korean partner teacher she would clean the room, yet failed to pick up the fire extinguisher and clean all the dust in and under it. Every foreign teacher in that room looked in absolute shock, but I remember the look on the Koreans, who seemed to just have normal look, as if this outburst was a common occurrence. Went from 0-100 in no time flat. Why didn't the Korean partner teacher just talk to the foreigner in private herself instead of having her attack dog do it in front of the school? We already know the answer to that question, don't we?

I will always remember the next day even more vividly. The foreign woman (who was really nice, I may add) came into school and as she walked by our class (which was right by the main door) she poked her head in, looked at the Korean teacher, and sweetly said "Good morning, teacher"  in an attempt to change the vibe between them. The Korean teacher looked at her with pure disdain and--I swear this to be true--showed her teeth and quietly snarled at her.

I had never seen anything like it before. Luckily, I've never seen anything quite so bad, since. But this was an interesting introduction to Korean partner teachers and work culture in Korea. Why people weren't fired and heads didn't roll, well, at the time I didn't know. Now I do.

Sounds like it was a case of the head teacher using it to show who's boss, or to unleash a hidden personal dislike of the FT concerned.

An awful lot of bullying in many Korean workplaces. Koreans tend not to blame each other if possible but use the foreigner as a handy scapegoat. There are no repercussions to offloading all your stress onto a temporary foreign worker who has no power in this society.
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Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #411 on: April 08, 2022, 10:49:36 am »
That was in reference to driving while vacationing in Thailand with some friends.
Here in Korea I'm unfortunately forced to drive a car.  :sad:

Also, I'm not entirely certain that equating driving a scooter with low income is as valid as it used to be. I mean, yes, they're certainly cheaper, but they can also just be a lot more convenient depending on one's lifestyle.


I only saw your post and not the others so didn't know the context.  (In spite of some other posters smart @$$ reply.)  Yes, some SE Asian country when everyone else rides one certainly can be acceptable then.  But, you would really take your life into your hands here driving one.  Maybe if you live in an Eup or a Myeon and had a couple of schools not too far away it could be useful.  But a bigger or mid sized city, those things are a death trap plus your slow riding will just piss off the traffic.  Most locals here would also look down on you as poor or something.


Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #412 on: April 08, 2022, 12:11:24 pm »
That didn't happen.

And if it did, it wasn't that bad.

And if it was, that's not a big deal.

And if it is, that's not my fault.

And if it was, I didn't mean it.

And if I did...

You deserved it.


Re: Things Koreans do that irks us
« Reply #413 on: April 08, 2022, 01:45:57 pm »
I have, and on a scooter no less. Got into 2 accidents (both totally my fault). Scratched up my friend's leg pretty badly. She was not a happy camper.  :sad:
She's from Taiwan, another country where riding a scooter is an adventure, and making it to your thirties without scarred up legs means you have some serious good luck.

Have you got a Thai tattoo? hahahaha

I do. So does my wife and pretty much every single person I know. It's a badge of honour!