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  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #100 on: April 02, 2022, 02:45:16 am »
With Omicron, it might be less common. Or not.

Omicron is more contagious but more mild. Also, vaccines exist now, and Korea has a high vaccination rate. Now that so many have tested positive there is less fear, which translates to fewer detrimental physiological impacts / fewer perceived effects. The percentage of boosted Koreans who get long covid from omicron is very small. It happens, yes, but it is rare. Extremely rare.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2022, 07:37:48 am by L I »


  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #101 on: April 02, 2022, 08:22:28 am »
The percentage of boosted Koreans who get long covid from omicron is very small. It happens, yes, but it is rare. Extremely rare.

You have no source to support this claim, do you? Other than ''I don't know anyone who suffered from it''.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #102 on: April 02, 2022, 09:24:02 am »
I donít, and you donít, and others reading this donít.  Or at least they can say the vast majority never got long covid. Iíd be surprised if the collective number were above zero. Might be, but itíll be in the low single digits percentage wise. Maybe 0%. But maybe slightly higher than 0%.


  • Savant
  • The Legend

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    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #103 on: April 02, 2022, 09:28:28 am »
I donít, and you donít, and others reading this donít.  Or at least they can say the vast majority never got long covid. Iíd be surprised if the collective number were above zero. Might be, but itíll be in the low single digits percentage wise. Maybe 0%. But maybe slightly higher than 0%.

Yep, definitely, a scientific medical professional, most definitely.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #104 on: April 02, 2022, 09:33:27 am »
If no one on this board knows a boosted Korean who got long covid from omicron, we can conclude itís rare. Because we all know loads of Koreans who got the Ďrona. Do the math. Think of your own experience, readers, and see if it jibes with mine. It does.


  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #105 on: April 02, 2022, 09:58:41 am »
If no one on this board knows a boosted Korean who got long covid from omicron, we can conclude itís rare. Because we all know loads of Koreans who got the Ďrona. Do the math. Think of your own experience, readers, and see if it jibes with mine. It does.

I donít, and you donít, and others reading this donít.  Or at least they can say the vast majority never got long covid. Iíd be surprised if the collective number were above zero. Might be, but itíll be in the low single digits percentage wise. Maybe 0%. But maybe slightly higher than 0%.

World-renowned scientist LI, with some cutting edge data analysis, reporting from South Korea.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #106 on: April 02, 2022, 12:24:56 pm »
One need not be a world renowned scientist to see most students and teachers aren't dying from coronavirus. Nor are they getting long covid. Yes, some die, but it is extremely rare. Yes, some get long covid, but it is extremely rare.


  • Savant
  • The Legend

    • 3611

    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #107 on: April 02, 2022, 01:50:31 pm »
World-renowned scientist LI, with some cutting edge data analysis, reporting from South Korea.

Using the tried and tested scientific method of "Do you know someone who got long covid?"
Getting the incredible result of "No?" with a detailed conclusion of "Then, it's not a thing then!"


  • Savant
  • The Legend

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    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #108 on: April 02, 2022, 01:55:16 pm »
One need not be a world renowned scientist to see most students and teachers aren't dying from coronavirus. Nor are they getting long covid. Yes, some die, but it is extremely rare. Yes, some get long covid, but it is extremely rare.

https://english.chosun.com/site/data/html_dir/2022/04/01/2022040101257.html

From the article:
"Based on a study of patients from April to October in 2021, Yonsei University's Severance Hospital concluded that some 20 percent continued to suffer aftereffects until three months after infection.

Overseas studies also suggest that 30 to 40 percent of COVID patients suffer from lingering effects."

Even with we go with the lowest percentage of 20%, I doubt it can be measured as "extremely rare".


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #109 on: April 02, 2022, 02:02:30 pm »
"Then, it's not a thing then!"

It happens, but it's not common. Especially among Koreans. Especially among the boosted. Especially among the healthy. Especially among the young.

Jesus, man, your article is pre omicron and pre wide scale vaccination. It's also looking at those hospitalized. Asymptomatic people with covid didn't even know they had it and hence weren't hospitalized.


  • Savant
  • The Legend

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    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #110 on: April 02, 2022, 02:50:06 pm »
It happens, but it's not common. Especially among Koreans. Especially among the boosted. Especially among the healthy. Especially among the young.

Jesus, man, your article is pre omicron and pre wide scale vaccination. It's also looking at those hospitalized. Asymptomatic people with covid didn't even know they had it and hence weren't hospitalized.

So, which is it? "Extremely rare" or "Not common"?

It's not looking at those hospitalized but of those still reporting symptoms months after first catching covid.

There is little data available for long covid from Omicron so beyond your anecdotal evidence, I'll wait for some study to come out with actual data. What I do know is those with symptoms, specifically the self-employed and small business owners are not getting tested because they do not want to have a loss of income. With Korean abandoning test and trace those people are now no longer forced into mandatory quarantine as there is no legal basis now for them to get tested.


  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #111 on: April 02, 2022, 02:58:48 pm »
One need not be a world renowned scientist to see most students and teachers aren't dying from coronavirus. Nor are they getting long covid. Yes, some die, but it is extremely rare. Yes, some get long covid, but it is extremely rare.

Well, you kind of need to be one to jump to such assumptions.
Fact is, there is very little data available about long covid, caused by omicron because it's been only around for 4 months or so.
By definition, very few people could have long covid in Korea until now, since 12 weeks have to pass after being infected. Only after that it is considered long covid.
Even in other countries, there is no enough data yet to draw such conclusions.
But you get ahead of the international science world, and claim something that is solely based on your own observations.

How would you define ''extremely rare'' anyways? Even 1% is definitely not extremely rare. Should be 0.1% or even less to call it that.
« Last Edit: April 02, 2022, 03:21:23 pm by Lazio »


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #112 on: April 08, 2022, 11:07:32 am »
Thereís no set definition for extremely rare. 1% could be it. In my opinion it is. Highly unlikely. Regardless, almost all boosted Koreans who got omicron ended up fine. Those who didnít were anomalies.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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  • Lazio
  • Hero of Waygookistan

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    • January 27, 2018, 03:56:10 pm
    • Gyeongi-do
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #114 on: April 08, 2022, 11:50:06 am »
Thereís no set definition for extremely rare. 1% could be it. In my opinion it is. Highly unlikely. Regardless, almost all boosted Koreans who got omicron ended up fine. Those who didnít were anomalies.

From wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_disease
Definitions of rare disease in different countries:

Brazil   65 in 100,000   1 in 1,538
United States <200,000 in population   1 in 1,659
Argentina   1 in 2,000   1 in 2,000
Australia   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
Chile   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
Colombia   1 in 2,000   1 in 2,000
European Union   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
Mexico   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
Norway   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
Panama   1 in 2,000   1 in 2,000
Singapore   1 in 2,000   1 in 2,000
Switzerland   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
United Kingdom   1 in 2,000[10]   1 in 2,000
Japan   <50,000 in population    1 in 2,507
Russian Federation10 in 100,000   1 in 10,000
Peru   1 in 100,000   1 in 100,000

1 in 2000 seems to be the common definition. And this is for ''rare''. For ''extremely rare'' one would need to add at least a zero to that.


  • hangook77
  • Waygook Lord

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    • September 14, 2017, 09:10:12 am
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Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #115 on: April 08, 2022, 11:59:14 am »
Big difference between Omicron and all the other previous ones which were more severe.  But, healthy people still lived through them.  Omicron was like a mild flu in some ways, though not quite like the flu.  Symptoms were a bit different.  But quick recovery time and mild symptoms.  Chills, fever, tired achy body for a few days.   Some have diarrhea and or vomiting.  Some don't for a day or so.  Then it goes into lungs and is a bit of a cough.  But surprisingly not much of a stuffed nose or sinus headaches.  Maybe a few days are the worst then a few more days kind of bad slightly, then a few more days back to normal but slightly tired more easily and with a slight cough sometimes.  Then, back to normal - good as new. 
745sticky, Augustiner, Bakeacake, D.L.Orean, Lazio, Mithras, Renma, Rye are still blocked and I can't see them.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

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    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #116 on: April 08, 2022, 12:01:04 pm »
If only one in a thousand vaccinated people who catch Covid now are hospitalized, that seems hella unlikely.

What constitutes rare is a semantic disagreement.

Iím not afraid of Covid. Nor should anyone reading this who is boosted. I guess if old and unhealthy then maybe, but otherwise donít worry about it. Improve your immune system then go about living normally.


  • Mr C
  • The Legend

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    • October 17, 2012, 03:00:40 pm
    • Seoul
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #117 on: April 08, 2022, 02:47:56 pm »
From wikipedia: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rare_disease
Definitions of rare disease in different countries:

Brazil   65 in 100,000   1 in 1,538
United States <200,000 in population   1 in 1,659
Argentina   1 in 2,000   1 in 2,000
Australia   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
Chile   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
Colombia   1 in 2,000   1 in 2,000
European Union   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
Mexico   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
Norway   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
Panama   1 in 2,000   1 in 2,000
Singapore   1 in 2,000   1 in 2,000
Switzerland   5 in 10,000   1 in 2,000
United Kingdom   1 in 2,000[10]   1 in 2,000
Japan   <50,000 in population    1 in 2,507
Russian Federation10 in 100,000   1 in 10,000
Peru   1 in 100,000   1 in 100,000

1 in 2000 seems to be the common definition. And this is for ''rare''. For ''extremely rare'' one would need to add at least a zero to that.

You clearly were not listening!  If you will JUST BE YOUNG AND HEALTHY, Covid is fine!

How many thousands of times does he have to tell you people!?!


  • VanIslander
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Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #118 on: April 08, 2022, 03:04:19 pm »
Since i had COVID19 I haven't read any news or cared about it. I am basking in the sense of invulnerability that follows, at least for the first few months. I'm sure a new variant later in the year or next winter will be of concern, but even then my fear level won't rival pre-infection as my body has kicked it once. It may have worked out in the gym and become stronger but I'm confident I'll kick its *** again.
« Last Edit: April 08, 2022, 03:06:36 pm by VanIslander »
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #119 on: April 08, 2022, 05:01:34 pm »
I take quinine every day.

Also, some L-arginine, Lecithin, Pygeum and zinc!