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  • Savant
  • The Legend

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    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #60 on: March 23, 2022, 08:56:05 am »
Yeah, I’m one of those new statistics. My wife had it last week so was just expecting to test positive eventually.


Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #61 on: March 23, 2022, 09:47:37 am »
Yeah, I’m one of those new statistics. My wife had it last week so was just expecting to test positive eventually.

It might not work that way. My kid had it last week, just a mild fever on one day, but my wife who looked after him for a week of isolation tested negative


  • VanIslander
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    • 3850

    • June 02, 2011, 10:12:19 am
    • South Gyeongsang province for 13 years (with a 7-year Jeju interlude)
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Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #62 on: March 23, 2022, 10:02:15 am »
A staggering change in culture:

TWICE this week i have passed unmasked korean men openly COUGHING - no masks or even attempt to cover.

The last time i saw such FLAGANT action was 2019.
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


  • Savant
  • The Legend

    • 3479

    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #63 on: March 23, 2022, 12:32:47 pm »
Best of luck Savant. Lot's of chocolate, lemonade, and movies for you.

Thanks! On it with the first two suggestions. The third I will do if I have the energy for it.

Symptoms seem to come and go day-to-day. Felt crap on Monday, better yesterday, but worse today.


  • VanIslander
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    • June 02, 2011, 10:12:19 am
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Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #64 on: March 24, 2022, 03:41:36 pm »
Take care! I was sick for six days (Day 2 and 5 were the worst).

Today I did the gov't paperwork to get the subsidy to cover missed time from work due to COVID19 (will get 200,000 won for 4 missed days - not great but better than nothing).
Life's to live! Live! Breathe. Relax. Enjoy. Animals teach us to focus on family, friends and avoid danger. Get what you need and get along with others. That said, some rock the boat, but they know capsizin' it means they're sunk. Some sink, let's swim! The sea's big, great, but has undercurrents.


  • waygo0k
  • The Legend

    • 4683

    • September 27, 2011, 11:51:01 am
    • Chungnam
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #65 on: March 24, 2022, 09:22:27 pm »
All the best Savant! Wishing you a speedy recovery!

Glad to hear you’re doing better Van!


  • Savant
  • The Legend

    • 3479

    • April 07, 2012, 11:35:31 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #66 on: March 24, 2022, 09:49:55 pm »
Take care! I was sick for six days (Day 2 and 5 were the worst).

Today I did the gov't paperwork to get the subsidy to cover missed time from work due to COVID19 (will get 200,000 won for 4 missed days - not great but better than nothing).

Yeah, I've found that symptoms fluctuate day to day. Felt really bad on the first day that symptoms appeared, then felt better the next day, then day after feeling bad again. I'm on Day 4 now and apart from a slight sore throat, I feel ok but always feel terrible in the mornings. We'll see what Day 5 brings.

With a cold/flu, I can normally feel the symptoms starting but with Covid, it's just BOOM!, here it is, without warning.

All the best Savant! Wishing you a speedy recovery!

Glad to hear you’re doing better Van!

Thanks! Hopefully, on the mend.


Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #67 on: March 25, 2022, 09:26:42 am »
I'm just counting down the days before I finally catch it. Half of my friends have caught it by now.

Anyone else read about this:

https://waupost.com/south-korean-doctor-claims-the-reason-why-you-still-dont-have-covid-is-probably-because-you-have-no-friends/

"metaphor"

I'll remember that the next time I stick my foot in my mouth, lol.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #68 on: March 25, 2022, 10:13:00 am »
“An estimated 57 percent of the world population has been infected with COVID at least once, according to the Institute for Health Metrics and Evaluation Model.”
https://www.newsweek.com/covid-evaluation-model-estimates-57-percent-world-population-infected-least-once-1672440?amp=1
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57% back in January so how high now in March? Two thirds of the world’s population? Hard to know since many are unaware they’ve had it. Asymptomatic.


  • 745sticky
  • The Legend

    • 2252

    • March 26, 2020, 01:52:57 pm
    • Korea
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #69 on: March 25, 2022, 11:09:58 am »
I'm just counting down the days before I finally catch it. Half of my friends have caught it by now.

Anyone else read about this:

https://waupost.com/south-korean-doctor-claims-the-reason-why-you-still-dont-have-covid-is-probably-because-you-have-no-friends/

"metaphor"

I'll remember that the next time I stick my foot in my mouth, lol.

ah yes, a classic case of schrodinger's asshole... waiting to read the room before he decides if he was joking or not  :laugh:


  • waygo0k
  • The Legend

    • 4683

    • September 27, 2011, 11:51:01 am
    • Chungnam
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #70 on: March 26, 2022, 09:22:50 am »
I'm just counting down the days before I finally catch it. Half of my friends have caught it by now.

Anyone else read about this:

https://waupost.com/south-korean-doctor-claims-the-reason-why-you-still-dont-have-covid-is-probably-because-you-have-no-friends/

"metaphor"

I'll remember that the next time I stick my foot in my mouth, lol.


There was a joke making the rounds here in china a few months back. A group of friends wanted to have a get together, but they all had to do covid tests to make sure they could. Out of the six people who tested, 5 turned out to be positive but asymptomatic…so the 5 people apologised to the sixth who tested negative and had the get together without him/her.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #71 on: March 27, 2022, 11:05:57 am »
China doesn't have a Covid exit plan. Two years in, people are fed up and angry

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/25/china/china-covid-frustration-exit-plan-intl-hnk-mic/index.html
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64,375 fans welcomed at South Korean men's World Cup qualifier amid soaring Covid-19 cases

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/25/football/south-korea-football-covid-cases-spt-intl/index.html
« Last Edit: March 27, 2022, 11:31:14 am by L I »


  • gogators!
  • Waygook Lord

    • 6161

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #72 on: March 27, 2022, 08:48:21 pm »
China doesn't have a Covid exit plan. Two years in, people are fed up and angry

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/25/china/china-covid-frustration-exit-plan-intl-hnk-mic/index.html
___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ___________________ ________________

64,375 fans welcomed at South Korean men's World Cup qualifier amid soaring Covid-19 cases

https://edition.cnn.com/2022/03/25/football/south-korea-football-covid-cases-spt-intl/index.html
There's very little they can do about it--just stay inside and watch John Wick movies. Nix that--Keanu Reeves is now persona non grata.


  • waygo0k
  • The Legend

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    • September 27, 2011, 11:51:01 am
    • Chungnam
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #73 on: March 28, 2022, 03:52:43 am »
China doesn’t have an exit plan because somehow it allowed 17 million elderly to remain unvaccinated all this time. The remaining 5%-8%+ of people that are still unvaccinated amounts to 70-100 million+ people!!

They dropped the ball massively on this one. Shanghai is doing the unthinkable (locking down starting today)…but quite frankly it’s too late for any of that. Omicron is far too contagious and will have to be allowed to burn itself out.

Good thing so far is a tiny confirmed cases so far have been a) symptomatic b) serious…with only about 2 deaths out 40k+. Yes I know, it’s china and the numbers may be doctored.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #74 on: March 28, 2022, 04:21:57 am »
The United States looks back to normal, at least in this video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CWFybM2UfXg

All 50 states removed their mask mandates.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #75 on: March 28, 2022, 04:54:06 am »
Shanghai is doing the unthinkable (locking down starting today)…but quite frankly it’s too late for any of that. Omicron is far too contagious and will have to be allowed to burn itself out.

“We don’t have to continue to upend human life in our quest to eliminate covid, which can’t happen anyway,” says George Mason University economist Don Boudreaux.

“Why not?” I ask. “We eliminated smallpox.”

“Smallpox resides only in human beings,” explains Boudreaux. Covid-19 can live in animals — bats, deer, dogs, cats. “We have never eliminated a disease that uses both humans and animals as reservoirs.”

Still, China acted as if eliminating covid-19 were possible.

They’ve kept deaths much lower (if you believe their numbers) than other countries by imposing nasty repressive measures like quarantines at gunpoint and even locking people in their homes.

“It’s just awful. It’s tyrannical. It’s what you expect of a Communist tyrannical government,” says Boudreaux.


https://triblive.com/opinion/john-stossel-its-time-to-let-life-resume/

“It’s not admitting defeat; it’s admitting reality,” says Boudreaux. “We learn to live with covid in the same way that we learn to live with many other pathogens. … The bacteria that caused the Black Death is still circulating in the human population. A handful of people every year still die of it.”

In the Wall Street Journal, he wrote, “Eradication of covid is a dangerous and expensive fantasy.”

“We live with countless hazards, each of which we could but sensibly choose not to eradicate. Automobile fatalities could be eradicated by outlawing motor vehicles. Drowning could be eradicated by outlawing swimming and bathing. Electrocution could be eradicated by outlawing electricity. We live with these risks not because we’re indifferent to suffering but because we understand that the costs of zero-drowning or zero-electrocution would be far too great. The same is true of zero-covid.”

That’s why, now that we have largely effective vaccines, he says it’s time to end pointless lockdowns and do what Denmark is doing:

“Live life normally again! Travel, go to parties, weddings, sporting events. Live life and be joyous! Hopefully, humanity will come to its senses soon.”


  • gogators!
  • Waygook Lord

    • 6161

    • March 16, 2016, 04:35:48 pm
    • Seoul
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #76 on: March 29, 2022, 03:14:46 am »
“We don’t have to continue to upend human life in our quest to eliminate covid, which can’t happen anyway,” says George Mason University economist Don Boudreaux.

“Why not?” I ask. “We eliminated smallpox.”

“Smallpox resides only in human beings,” explains Boudreaux. Covid-19 can live in animals — bats, deer, dogs, cats. “We have never eliminated a disease that uses both humans and animals as reservoirs.”

Still, China acted as if eliminating covid-19 were possible.

They’ve kept deaths much lower (if you believe their numbers) than other countries by imposing nasty repressive measures like quarantines at gunpoint and even locking people in their homes.

“It’s just awful. It’s tyrannical. It’s what you expect of a Communist tyrannical government,” says Boudreaux.


https://triblive.com/opinion/john-stossel-its-time-to-let-life-resume/

“It’s not admitting defeat; it’s admitting reality,” says Boudreaux. “We learn to live with covid in the same way that we learn to live with many other pathogens. … The bacteria that caused the Black Death is still circulating in the human population. A handful of people every year still die of it.”

In the Wall Street Journal, he wrote, “Eradication of covid is a dangerous and expensive fantasy.”

“We live with countless hazards, each of which we could but sensibly choose not to eradicate. Automobile fatalities could be eradicated by outlawing motor vehicles. Drowning could be eradicated by outlawing swimming and bathing. Electrocution could be eradicated by outlawing electricity. We live with these risks not because we’re indifferent to suffering but because we understand that the costs of zero-drowning or zero-electrocution would be far too great. The same is true of zero-covid.”

That’s why, now that we have largely effective vaccines, he says it’s time to end pointless lockdowns and do what Denmark is doing:

“Live life normally again! Travel, go to parties, weddings, sporting events. Live life and be joyous! Hopefully, humanity will come to its senses soon.”

I prefer to put my health in the hands of medical professionals rather than economists and the business-oriented WSJ.

It's this "live life and be joyous" attitude that is at least partially killing millions of American every year because in America living has come to mean consuming.

When the next pandemic comes, far too many are likely going to believe that public health measures did nothing to save lives and we'll see the same senseless loss of life.

More than 1,000 Americans died of Covid-19 yesterday. That may unfortunately be back to normal in the US. Strange how little people value their lives.


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #77 on: March 29, 2022, 06:42:23 am »
More than 1,000 Americans died of Covid-19 yesterday.

Not true. 163 Americans died of Covid-19 yesterday. USA’s population is 334 million, so one in two million. Most people in the US caught Covid. Most people in the world caught Covid. No need to be afraid forever. That’s no way to live life. Especially because Covid is never going away. Eat healthy and exercise to boost your immune system. Get vaccinated. Then forget about it. Social distancing forever isn’t the solution. It’s psychologically unhealthy.


  • Kyndo
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    • I am a geek!!

    • March 02, 2027, 11:00:00 pm
    • Gyeongsangbuk-do
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #78 on: March 29, 2022, 07:29:42 am »
Not true. 163 Americans died of Covid-19 yesterday.
You're right. On March 27th, less than 100 people died of covid.
However, the day before that it was closer to 200, and the day before that it was about 700, and the day before *that* was 1,300 etc.
Considering how fatality numbers fluctuate pretty wildly from day to day, both sides of the argument can cherry pick days to suit their arguments. Better would be to use the 7 day running average, which is currently at around 800 deaths per day.

This is a nice, visual data source for finding up-to-date, US-related stats:
https://www.google.com/search?q=march+27+covid+deaths+usa&oq=march+27+covid+deaths+usa&aqs=chrome..69i57.6431j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8


  • L I
  • Waygook Lord

    • 7852

    • October 03, 2011, 01:50:58 pm
Re: So many new infections in Korea.
« Reply #79 on: March 29, 2022, 07:55:43 am »
Yesterday 50 covid deaths. The day before yesterday 163 covid deaths. I pulled a boner. ㅠ ㅠ